"Mike Rice" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:Apologies to the group for this long-ish post.
Nothing much ever gets said in a short post. Those who post one liners are
without exception idiots.
Quoted message said:On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 18:15:54 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
"Mike Rice" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:47:13 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>For as long as I have been a member of ARBR, a certain Mr. Tom Sherman
>has
>always been the most prolific poster. That is about to change very
>shortly,
>unless he returns and resumes his one liner posts. Yours truly, Ed Dolan
>the
>Great, is soon to overtake Tom Sherman and become the all time champion
>poster to ARBR.
>
>Here is the relevant information for those of you who are interested in
>such
>esoterica:
>
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/about?hl=en
>
>Moreover, my posts are not one liners without any content to them which
>was
>often the case with Tom Sherman's posts. I never tried for this record
>though. It just sort of happened due to all the wrangles I get into with
>everyone here on ARBR.
>
>When the big day arrives that I surpass Tom Sherman as the most prolific
>poster, I will call everyone's attention to it. These are the sort of
>things
>that I am good at. I am expecting that congratulations will be in order
>from
>all and sundry.
>
>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>
I'm not very much surprised to learn that you may be about to become
the most prolific poster to this group. I'll take your word on this as
I can't get excited enough to follow the link you conveniently
provide.
You should have a look at that link Mike. If you look at the number of
posts
listed in the archives over the years you will note some very interesting
numbers. ARBR was at it's prime several years ago and has been in a
decline
for the past couple of years. But the big falling off occurs after the
criminal vandal troll appears, each and every time. The group is slowly
making a recovery, but I don't believe it will ever get back to where it
once was.
OK, I did check out the link. Interesting, indeed.
I found this group in mid '03 while deciding which recumbent I to buy.
The decline (I'm guessing you are referring to the decline in numbers
of posts...I also wonder about percentage of relevent (not necessarily
'on topic' ones as well) was already begun, apparently, but I being
new was unaware.
I did look up those years when there were thousands of posts. Most of them
were idiotic posts by idiots who were saying absolutely nothing at all.
Quoted message said:I found this group to be a good source of information and to contain a
wide variety of perspectives, mostly related to recumbent cycling. The
decline did not gain my notice until fairly recently, I see that about
five months back the numbers of posts took the biggest drop ever.
Frankly I blamed this on the likes of you and Mr. Sherman. Notice the
past tense in that sentaence.
You are quite wrong about that Mike. Mr. Sherman and I were feuding from day
one for a couple of years and that did not affect the numbers posting to
ARBR. The deadwood from Florida soon decided to leave and it was good
riddance to them. But what did affect it was the criminal vandal troll. A
newsgroup can only take so much cussing and swearing before many decide to
leave forever.
The criminal vandal troll never posted under his own name (always using
proxy addresses) and used other's names fraudulently. He was nothing but a
criminal and the group, while recognizing this, refused to condemn it - most
likely for fear of coming under attack themselves. Such cowardice turns my
stomach!
Quoted message said:I don't use kill filing, but believe it to be appropriate in the case
of the vandal trolls you describe. I am sure, however, that I was not
the only reader to be discouraged when viewing the latest batch of
posts only to find that the useful ones were buried among a seemingly
never ending list of a couple of brats teasing each other.
You are unable to make discriminations. One was a criminal brat who was bent
on destroying the group and the other was trying to save the group. Kill
filing is the coward's way out. I simply can't tell you how much I abhor
those types. Criminal vandal trolls must be fought the same way that Islamic
terrorists must be fought. All it takes for evil to prevail is that good men
do nothing.
Quoted message said:It seemed this group was being buried. The criminal types were
obvious, and I generally subscribe to the theory that if they got no
feedback boredom would drive them elsewhere. However, if a
cantankerous old goat insisted on butting heads with them they would
derive the only pleasure in their sad little lives and settle in for
the long haul.
I do not leave a battle unfought. Your attitude is what brings disgrace on a
newsgroup. It is a typical liberal reaction when confronted with criminal
types. It is far better to go down to defeat than to leave the field of
battle. Furthermore, you are equating that which cannot be equated. I always
posted fair and square, something that the criminal vandal troll never did.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Newgroups are actually very delicate creations. They can easily be
destroyed
by a single criminal vandal troll. Those of us who cherish this group need
to defend it when it comes under attack. I did what I could the last time
around, but one person cannot defend the group. The group must rise as one
to defend itself. Old timers who do not defend the group against criminal
vandal trolls are beneath contempt and I reserve a special venom for them.
Remember the old saw,'never argue with a fool, your audience might not
be able to tell the difference?' I think your battles with the trolls
may have prolonged their stay. You never let any thread die without at
least one more jab, niether would the true (am I spelling this word
correctly? My poor IDIOT mind seems to have a special problem with it)
troll.
You are equating that which cannot be equated. The fact is that I am not a
troll, but believe me if I wanted to be a troll I would know how from my
experience with the criminal vandal troll. I could easily destroy this
newsgroup so no one, not even you, would ever come here again. The fact is
that it is easy to destroy something. It is not so easy to build something.
It never ceases to amaze me how some take to the tall grass when the going
gets rough. Frankly, the only virtue I admire unreservedly is courage
because courage makes all the other virtues possible.
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota