Anyone using Nike+ Kit?

Padawan said:

I got the Nike+ Kit, but i got no one to "run with"... any beginners
too who wanna "challenge".. on Distance or Speed etc...

Thanks

I would but I doubt you live near me. Is that the one with the ipod
and shoes? How is it?

Padawan said:

I got the Nike+ Kit, but i got no one to "run with"... any beginners
too who wanna "challenge".. on Distance or Speed etc...

Thanks

[censored].

Gary said:

I would but I doubt you live near me. Is that the one with the ipod
and shoes? How is it?

It's sort of the point of the device that it's a web-based
affair: you go for a run with your iPod and the Nike+ thingie in
your shoe, and the next time you connect your iPod to iTunes
your running statistics will be automatically synchronized with
the Nike+ web site. So you don't have to be anywhere near other
people to participate in events with them or challenge them to
"races".

(Of course if you really wanted to be fair, you'd have to take
into account the different climates, terrain, elevation, etc. in
all participants' regions, but that would take all the fun out
of it...)

As for how it functions as a glorified, talking pedometer (which
is primarily how I use mine), it's surprisingly precise. Once I
had calibrated the thing, it was able to measure out routes
which I had previously calculated using my bicycle computer with
(if I remember correctly) a consistently less-than 0.25% margin
of error -- this despite the fact that I'm not even using an
approved Nike+ shoe, I just have the sensor velcroed to the
tongue of my New Balances underneath the shoelaces. It's great
to be able to run on absolutely arbitrary, changing routes from
one day to the next and still be able to come home knowing how
far I ran and what my average pace was.

Unfortunately I'll have to turn down Padawan's offer for a
challenge for now, because I'm still too self-conscious about
how slow I am to risk those statistics leaking out to anybody on
this newsgroup 😉

Mark

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On 2007-07-02, Gary <[email hidden]> wrote:
It's great
to be able to run on absolutely arbitrary, changing routes from
one day to the next and still be able to come home knowing how
far I ran and what my average pace was.

I hope it gives those "exact" distances down to three to four decimal
points. Just think of the sleepless nights not knowing it you ran 3.123
or 3.129 whatever's. Maybe they will create a model that has an ear
piece that will give you constant audio with every foot/yard/etc. Just
think of the instant gratification.

-DF

Doug Freese said:

Just
think of the instant gratification.

-DF

This from a guy who whacksoff 30x a day?

Mark Shroyer said:

Gary said:

I would but I doubt you live near me. Is that the one with the ipod
and shoes? How is it?

It's sort of the point of the device that it's a web-based
affair: you go for a run with your iPod and the Nike+ thingie in
your shoe, and the next time you connect your iPod to iTunes
your running statistics will be automatically synchronized with
the Nike+ web site. So you don't have to be anywhere near other
people to participate in events with them or challenge them to
"races".

(Of course if you really wanted to be fair, you'd have to take
into account the different climates, terrain, elevation, etc. in
all participants' regions, but that would take all the fun out
of it...)

As for how it functions as a glorified, talking pedometer (which
is primarily how I use mine), it's surprisingly precise. Once I
had calibrated the thing, it was able to measure out routes
which I had previously calculated using my bicycle computer with
(if I remember correctly) a consistently less-than 0.25% margin
of error -- this despite the fact that I'm not even using an
approved Nike+ shoe, I just have the sensor velcroed to the
tongue of my New Balances underneath the shoelaces. It's great
to be able to run on absolutely arbitrary, changing routes from
one day to the next and still be able to come home knowing how
far I ran and what my average pace was.

Unfortunately I'll have to turn down Padawan's offer for a
challenge for now, because I'm still too self-conscious about
how slow I am to risk those statistics leaking out to anybody on
this newsgroup 😉

Mark

--
Mark Shroyerhttp://markshroyer.com/

so I don't need a Nike shoe? Does it cost a monthly subscribtion?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mark Shroyer said:

Unfortunately I'll have to turn down Padawan's offer for a challenge
for now, because I'm still too self-conscious about how slow I am to
risk those statistics leaking out to anybody on this newsgroup 😉

That's one thing that I have found no judgementalism about here. My
fastest time to date is 13 minutes per mile at a 3-mile race.

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

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Gary said:

so I don't need a Nike shoe?

Correct.

Quoted message said:

Does it cost a monthly subscribtion?

No subscription fee at all.

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Doug Freese said:

I hope it gives those "exact" distances down to three to four
decimal points. Just think of the sleepless nights not knowing it you
ran 3.123 or 3.129 whatever's.

Sorry, only two decimal places.

Quoted message said:

Maybe they will create a model that has an ear piece that will give
you constant audio with every foot/yard/etc. Just think of the
instant gratification.

No, but it will give you time, distance, and current pace every time you
press the button. That should be enough to gratify you.

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

Michelle said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Doug Freese said:

I hope it gives those "exact" distances down to three to four
decimal points. Just think of the sleepless nights not knowing it you
ran 3.123 or 3.129 whatever's.

Sorry, only two decimal places.

Quoted message said:

Maybe they will create a model that has an ear piece that will give
you constant audio with every foot/yard/etc. Just think of the
instant gratification.

No, but it will give you time, distance, and current pace every time you
press the button. That should be enough to gratify you.

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

if i ever get the ipod and nike thing I will let you know it sounds
fun but my pace is only at a 7-8 minute mile pace for an hour

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's great to be able to run on absolutely arbitrary,
changing routes from one day to the next and still be able to
come home knowing how far I ran and what my average pace was

I hope it gives those "exact" distances down to three to four
decimal points. Just think of the sleepless nights not knowing
it you ran 3.123 or 3.129 whatever's.

Why the quotation marks; I never said "exact". Sometimes I like
to take random and overlapping paths around town and through
campus, and it's nice to know if I did four miles or six (or
two).

Quoted message said:

Maybe they will create a model that has an ear piece that will
give you constant audio with every foot/yard/etc. Just think
of the instant gratification.

Not yet... Presently it announces your distance to you over the
iPod's earbuds at, at most, half-mile increments 😉

--
Mark Shroyer
http://markshroyer.com/

Mark Shroyer said:

On 2007-07-03, Doug Freese <[email hidden]> wrote:
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's great to be able to run on absolutely arbitrary,
changing routes from one day to the next and still be able to
come home knowing how far I ran and what my average pace was

I hope it gives those "exact" distances down to three to four
decimal points. Just think of the sleepless nights not knowing
it you ran 3.123 or 3.129 whatever's.

Why the quotation marks; I never said "exact". Sometimes I like
to take random and overlapping paths around town and through
campus, and it's nice to know if I did four miles or six (or
two).

It doesn't take rocket science to know the difference between 6 minute miles
and 9 minute miles.

Cheers,
--
Elflord

Gary said:

if i ever get the ipod and nike thing I will let you know it sounds
fun but my pace is only at a 7-8 minute mile pace for an hour

You're way too fast to use one of those things (-;

Cheers,
--
Elflord

Mark Shroyer said:

Not yet... Presently it announces your distance to you over the
iPod's earbuds at, at most, half-mile increments 😉

I have one but:

1) I never got around to recalibrating after I got my new shoes, so
it's very off, by more than 3 minutes per mile.

2) I must've hit the wrong button one day, because now when the woman
whispers in my ear it's more like a scream, and I can't turn her
volume down. This happened once before and it somehow corrected
itself... I keep waiting... meanwhile, I can only stand to use it on
Basic setting so it doesn't scream at me every mile or 15 minutes and
blast out my eardrum. (Yes, I still use it because it tells me how
long I've run - yes, I know I could just wear a watch, but I haven't
owned a watch in nearly 15 years).

3) Something's messed up because after every single run - no matter
how short - it tells me congratulations I just completed another 5K.

I really did like the feature where it would tell you when you hit the
halfway mark, or count down the minutes. Sigh.

jen

Doug Freese said:

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On 2007-07-02, Gary <[email hidden]> wrote:
It's great
to be able to run on absolutely arbitrary, changing routes from
one day to the next and still be able to come home knowing how
far I ran and what my average pace was.

I hope it gives those "exact" distances down to three to four decimal
points. Just think of the sleepless nights not knowing it you ran 3.123
or 3.129 whatever's. Maybe they will create a model that has an ear
piece that will give you constant audio with every foot/yard/etc. Just
think of the instant gratification.

-DF

Is measuring distance any wierder than measuring time? Stopwatches seem
fairly popular.

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Mark Shroyer said:

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> It's great to be able to run on absolutely arbitrary,
> changing routes from one day to the next and still be able to
> come home knowing how far I ran and what my average pace was

I hope it gives those "exact" distances down to three to four
decimal points. Just think of the sleepless nights not knowing
it you ran 3.123 or 3.129 whatever's.

Why the quotation marks; I never said "exact". Sometimes I like
to take random and overlapping paths around town and through
campus, and it's nice to know if I did four miles or six (or
two).

It doesn't take rocket science to know the difference between 6 minute
miles
and 9 minute miles.

Well, we do it for New Yorkers as they really don't know the difference.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Doug Freese said:

I hope it gives those "exact" distances down to three to four
decimal points. Just think of the sleepless nights not knowing it you
ran 3.123 or 3.129 whatever's.

Sorry, only two decimal places.

Call me when they improve the accuracy. 😉

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Maybe they will create a model that has an ear piece that will give
you constant audio with every foot/yard/etc. Just think of the
instant gratification.

No, but it will give you time, distance, and current pace every time
you
press the button. That should be enough to gratify you.

In case it wasn't obvious, my reference about accuracy was all tongue in
cheek. My gratification comes from mother natures natural sounds like
birds or even a car horn the few times I do take to the roads. I do own
a watch but I often forget to start or stop it. I usually look at the
clock on the wall/car when I start and stop and rough in some number.
Over the days, weeks, months and years it all averages out.

In the winter when leading group runs on roads I will use
http://www.usatf.org/routes/map/
I find all those devices distracting and many, not suggesting you,
become literal slaves to the device and won't run a step without
measuring - to the point they never learn to listen and hear themselves.
They are handy when doing some type of measured speed workout.
Thereafter it's the hands or LEDs on the clock and how I feel.

-Doug

In article <[email hidden]>,

Doug Freese said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I hope it gives those "exact" distances down to three to four
decimal points. Just think of the sleepless nights not knowing it
you ran 3.123 or 3.129 whatever's.

Sorry, only two decimal places.

Call me when they improve the accuracy. 😉

Oh, I'm sure that it is more accurate internally, but that's the
accuracy of the display.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Maybe they will create a model that has an ear piece that will
give you constant audio with every foot/yard/etc. Just think of
the instant gratification.

No, but it will give you time, distance, and current pace every
time you press the button. That should be enough to gratify you.

In case it wasn't obvious, my reference about accuracy was all tongue
in cheek.

As was my reply.

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

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"Doug Freese" <[email hidden]> wrote:

In the winter when leading group runs on roads I will use
http://www.usatf.org/routes/map/

I traveled to Woodstock last Saturday with the wife and son for a visit.
We drove up to the trailhead but I couldn't get them to hike it with me.
Driving the loop brought back memories!
I hiked up a 1/4 of a mile or so and back on my own. My son bought a "Band"
t-shirt in a store, the proprietor asked if we were going to see Levon that
night. We had gone to see him in Albany the night before at 60$ a pop, so no
we weren't going to pay $150 each to see him again that night. The man still
can play but he looks old and his voice is very nasal, I assume as a result
of his bought with throat cancer. The new Gelato shop behind Bread Alone was
a hit!

PR