Anyone rode any of these before?

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Has anyone tried any of these out i found them and thought they looked

like

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a good deal real good deal and was thinking i want to upgrade to Disc

brakes

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so i was looking at the deore set but ive heard good things about the

Vuelta

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wheelsets. Basically i want a cheap set of wheels that are durable and lightweight and can take a
few hits every now and then. Right now im

riding

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Synchros Big Box and theyre a bit heavy but very durable ive only broke 1 spoke and ive trued them
twice in 650 miles.

BTW: The items below are all available at eDiscountBike.com.

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This set of 26" Mavic X221 Wheels are double walled, and have eyeleted

rims

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that offer efficient braking due to the UB Control sidewalls $69 $19 S&H

Spec's Mavic X221 rims Double walled, alloy rims 32 hole Shimano M525 Hubs Black 14ga ss Spokes 8
or 9 speed compatable Wheelset weight 4 lbs 7 ozs

These look like a fine set of XC wheels. I wouldn't "go big" on these rims if I were you. They're
not made for that; but for normal riding, they should be very nice. Consider that just *one* Mavic
X221 rim retails for about what you're paying for the whole wheelset. Don't forget to stress relieve
and true/tension them before riding. These aren't hand-built wheels, AFAICT.

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Brand New 26" Vuelta XRP Sport XC wheelset, with flat bladed aero spokes. Retail $299.99
$119 $19 S&H

Spec's Deep section Vuelta XRP rims with brake wear indicator Shimano 8 or 9 speed compatable 24
hole Flat bladed aero spokes Unique crossover spoke pattern Comes with quick release skewers
Wheelset weight 5 lbs 100 mm front / 135 mm rear hubs standard
Note: This wheel set will not work with disc brakes. Retail on this wheel set is $299.99

These are some heavy wheels. 24 spokes doesn't sound too strong to me. No idea how they'll hold up
to abuse; but I wouldn't bet on them lasting very long. They're kinda neither/nor: Not enough spokes
to be really strong, and not light enough to justify the low spoke count. I'd pass on 'em.

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This New Grimeca System 9 Front + Rear Brake Set comes with 160mm Front disc, 140mm Rear disc, 2
caliper ,2 bolt sets and manual. $49 $7.99 S&H

Ok, these I actually own and ride. I have the rear Grimeca disc on my disc MTB, and it works
great. No problems. It squealed a little at first, but once it bedded in, things quieted down. I
had problems with the front caliper (which is *identical* to the rear caliper) because the
caliper position adjuster was actually hitting the spokes (!). Tom at eDiscountBike.com sent me
another caliper, and it had the same problem. He said I could send them back if I couldn't make
them work for me. They have excellent customer service. Tom responded very quickly, and was
polite and helpful.

I thought about sending the brakes back to eDiscountBike.com; but instead I whipped out the ol'
bench grinder and ground the adjuster screw down about 2 or 3 mm - et voila! No more spoke
interference. I haven't tried the front Grimeca disc yet (need another set of disc wheels...); but
I'm planning to put a set of 'em on my Ti hardtail to try 'em out. I also ride Avid CPS mechanical
discs, and they're better brakes; but not *that* much better. The Grimeca's are heavier, not as
nicely machined, and a tad clumsier to adjust; but they work fine (at least the rear one has). The
sintered metallic pads really get you slowed down in a hurry (but they do make some grinding noise).
Actually, the Grimeca discs squeal *less* then my Avid's, FWIW. I'd still take the Avid's over the
Grimeca's any day; but for $50/set (about $100 less than Avids), they're a good deal. Be ready to
grind off a few mm of the adjuster screw if needed, and you should have no problems.

HTH,

-=B=-

I can tell you've been eBay'ing

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"RacerX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Has anyone tried any of these out i found them and thought they looked

like

Quoted message said:

a good deal real good deal and was thinking i want to upgrade to Disc

brakes

Quoted message said:

so i was looking at the deore set but ive heard good things about the

Vuelta

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wheelsets. Basically i want a cheap set of wheels that are durable and lightweight and can take a
few hits every now and then. Right now im

riding

Quoted message said:

Synchros Big Box and theyre a bit heavy but very durable ive only broke 1 spoke and ive trued them
twice in 650 miles.

This set of 26" Mavic X221 Wheels are double walled, and have eyeleted

rims

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that offer efficient braking due to the UB Control sidewalls $69 $19 S&H

Spec's Mavic X221 rims Double walled, alloy rims 32 hole Shimano M525 Hubs Black 14ga ss Spokes 8
or 9 speed compatable Wheelset weight 4 lbs 7 ozs

Brand New 26" Vuelta XRP Sport XC wheelset, with flat bladed aero spokes. Retail $299.99
$119 $19 S&H

Spec's Deep section Vuelta XRP rims with brake wear indicator Shimano 8 or 9 speed compatable 24
hole Flat bladed aero spokes Unique crossover spoke pattern Comes with quick release skewers
Wheelset weight 5 lbs 100 mm front / 135 mm rear hubs standard
Note: This wheel set will not work with disc brakes. Retail on this wheel set is $299.99

This New Grimeca System 9 Front + Rear Brake Set comes with 160mm Front disc, 140mm Rear disc, 2
caliper ,2 bolt sets and manual. $49 $7.99 S&H

any recommendations will be greatly appreciated

Thanks million i think ill try the Deore/Mavic wheelset and ill save for the Avids those are what i
really wanted anyways, but i figured for the price hey why not. I really didnt expect a good answer
so fast hahhahaha, maybe ill order them tonight.

Thanks again

"RacerX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Has anyone tried any of these out i found them and thought they looked

like

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a good deal real good deal and was thinking i want to upgrade to Disc

brakes

Quoted message said:

so i was looking at the deore set but ive heard good things about the

Vuelta

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wheelsets. Basically i want a cheap set of wheels that are durable and lightweight and can take a
few hits every now and then. Right now im

riding

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Synchros Big Box and theyre a bit heavy but very durable ive only broke 1 spoke and ive trued them
twice in 650 miles.

This set of 26" Mavic X221 Wheels are double walled, and have eyeleted

rims

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that offer efficient braking due to the UB Control sidewalls $69 $19 S&H

The X221 rims are made of cream cheese - I weigh about 155lb and ruined mine in about 2 weeks,
by riding over as not so big piece of stone. I'd steer well clear unless you are just another
dirt roadie.

The other stuff I've no experience with, although personally, I'd choose V's over the Grimeca discs,
from what I've 'heard' - take that as you will.

You aren't thinking of these wheelsets to run with the discs are you?!?!? The Vuelta ones
specifically state they're not disc hubs, and I'd 'guess' the others aren't either.

Shaun aRe

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Ok, these I actually own and ride. I have the rear Grimeca disc on my

disc

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MTB, and it works great. No problems. It squealed a little at first, but

Total [censored]. No offense to you, but those brakes are the ones I had before the pads wore out in
about 500 miles. I couldn't replace the pads because there are no replacements. They didn't stop the
bike when I wanted to, and I couldn't even do a stoppie without a rider on the bike. I dremeled down
all the parts with spoke interference, I shimmed the pads for additional stopping power, but they
were utter and complete [censored]. B Sanders, if you had a good experience with those brakes, that is
excellent, because they honestly are better used as paperweights. No joke.

I sold the two brakes (amongst other things) back out on eBay for $2. Somebody knew exactly how much
they were worth.

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put a set of 'em on my Ti hardtail to try 'em out. I also ride Avid CPS mechanical discs, and
they're better brakes; but not *that* much better.

Yes, they are that much better. They really are. OP, don't waste your money on these pieces of sh1t.

Go to www.mtbr.com and read Grimeca reviews where the buyer bought the brakes from "eBay" and you
will see how bad they are.

B Sanders, how do you deal with pad wear?

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"RacerX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Has anyone tried any of these out i found them and thought they looked

like

Quoted message said:

a good deal real good deal and was thinking i want to upgrade to Disc

brakes

Quoted message said:

so i was looking at the deore set but ive heard good things about the

Vuelta

Quoted message said:

wheelsets. Basically i want a cheap set of wheels that are durable and lightweight and can take
a few hits every now and then. Right now im

riding

Quoted message said:

Synchros Big Box and theyre a bit heavy but very durable ive only broke 1 spoke and ive trued
them twice in 650 miles.

This set of 26" Mavic X221 Wheels are double walled, and have eyeleted

rims

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that offer efficient braking due to the UB Control sidewalls $69 $19 S&H

The X221 rims are made of cream cheese - I weigh about 155lb and ruined mine in about 2 weeks,
by riding over as not so big piece of stone. I'd steer well clear unless you are just another
dirt roadie.

The other stuff I've no experience with, although personally, I'd choose V's over the Grimeca
discs, from what I've 'heard' - take that as you will.

You aren't thinking of these wheelsets to run with the discs are you?!?!? The Vuelta ones
specifically state they're not disc hubs, and I'd 'guess' the others aren't either.

Shaun aRe

The vueltas sound gimmicky and x221 rims are indeed cheesy and weak. A better bet would be the 519
rim which is a little heavier but much stronger, and you can still build it up with a disc hub to
make a versatile wheel you can use v-brakes on if you want.

Ask how much a pair of 519 rimmmed , disc hubbed,3 crossed dt spoked, brass nippled hand built
wheels would be at your local bike shop. Spending a little more on your wheels is a sensible
investment in the long run.

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B Sanders, how do you deal with pad wear?

He doesn't have that problem. You have to actually ride your bike once in a while to get pad wear.

"Phil, Squid-in-Training" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Ok, these I actually own and ride. I have the rear Grimeca disc on my

disc

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MTB, and it works great. No problems. It squealed a little at first,

but

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Total [censored]. No offense to you, but those brakes are the ones I had before the pads wore out in
about 500 miles. I couldn't replace the pads because there are no replacements. They didn't stop
the bike when I

wanted

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to, and I couldn't even do a stoppie without a rider on the bike. I dremeled down all the parts
with spoke interference, I shimmed the pads

for

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additional stopping power, but they were utter and complete [censored]. B Sanders, if you had a good
experience with those brakes, that is

excellent,

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because they honestly are better used as paperweights. No joke.

This is good info. I've been wanting to compare notes with other Grimeca mechanical disc owners.
I'll retract my recommendation for the Grimeca's.

Did you try contacting Grimeca directly for the pads?

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I sold the two brakes (amongst other things) back out on eBay for $2. Somebody knew exactly how
much they were worth.

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put a set of 'em on my Ti hardtail to try 'em out. I also ride Avid CPS mechanical discs, and
they're better brakes; but not *that* much better.

Yes, they are that much better. They really are. OP, don't waste your money on these pieces
of sh1t.

You're probably right about that, Phil. Avid's are much better, for the reasons you've noted. The
Grimeca's have worked OK for me; but if you can't get replacement pads, then they're probably not
worth messing with, unless you treat them as "disposable."

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Go to www.mtbr.com and read Grimeca reviews where the buyer bought the brakes from "eBay" and you
will see how bad they are.

B Sanders, how do you deal with pad wear?

I live in *flat* Illinois. We don't have constant rain, either, like some areas do, which means less
"grinding compound."

-=B=-

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This is good info. I've been wanting to compare notes with other Grimeca mechanical disc owners.
I'll retract my recommendation for the Grimeca's.

Did you try contacting Grimeca directly for the pads?

Nope... I wouldn't have wanted new pads anyways. Besides, it probably would have come from their HQ
in Italy, thus costing $50 to ship, lol.

What's sad is that I was noticing the pad wear down considerably within 2 months!!! And I live
in Florida!

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You're probably right about that, Phil. Avid's are much better, for the reasons you've noted. The
Grimeca's have worked OK for me; but if you

can't

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get replacement pads, then they're probably not worth messing with, unless you treat them as
"disposable."

Absolutely! I'm glad to see that it seems like we're on the same wavelength... I was beginning to
think I had a pair of duds...

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I live in *flat* Illinois. We don't have constant rain, either, like some areas do, which means
less "grinding compound."

And disc brakes are tailored for rain! 😉

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Phil, Squid-in-Training said...

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B Sanders, how do you deal with pad wear?

He doesn't have that problem. You have to actually ride your bike once in a while to get pad wear.

True dat. Yet another string of misinformation from the minister.

JD

JD said...

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True dat. Yet another string of misinformation from the minister.

JD

I think it's about time Bomba added him to the FAQ along with his aliases--minister of
misinformation, champion of cheese, etc.

Super Slinky said:

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True dat. Yet another string of misinformation from the minister.

I think it's about time Bomba added him to the FAQ along with his aliases--minister of
misinformation, champion of cheese, etc.

Much as I'd like to, I don't think it's appropriate. The contributors mentioned in the FAQ don't
mind having a laugh at themselves. Barry still takes himself far too seriously and wouldn't see an
entry as light-hearted banter, more a direct affront.

You could take a 'who gives a toss what he thinks' approach, but the FAQ was meant to be fun, not
offensive to anyone.

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Super Slinky said:

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True dat. Yet another string of misinformation from the minister.

I think it's about time Bomba added him to the FAQ along with his aliases--minister of
misinformation, champion of cheese, etc.

Much as I'd like to, I don't think it's appropriate. The contributors mentioned in the FAQ don't
mind having a laugh at themselves. Barry still takes himself far too seriously and wouldn't see an
entry as light-hearted banter, more a direct affront.

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You could take a 'who gives a toss what he thinks' approach, but the FAQ was meant to be fun, not
offensive to anyone.

So now it's meant as a disservice? There is no question that barry bargain's [censored] is just that
most of the time. You may as well take vandedork out because under your current reasoning, he
shouldn't be in there.

JD

JD said:

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You could take a 'who gives a toss what he thinks' approach, but the FAQ was meant to be fun, not
offensive to anyone.

So now it's meant as a disservice? There is no question that barry bargain's [censored] is just that
most of the time. You may as well take vandedork out because under your current reasoning, he
shouldn't be in there.

Mike's a troll - all bets are off. Does that make me a hypocrite? Probably...

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JD said:

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You could take a 'who gives a toss what he thinks' approach, but the FAQ was meant to be fun, not
offensive to anyone.

So now it's meant as a disservice? There is no question that barry bargain's [censored] is just
that most of the time. You may as well take vandedork out because under your current reasoning,
he shouldn't be in there.

Mike's a troll - all bets are off. Does that make me a hypocrite? Probably...

why yes,it does. cuz JustaDick is the biggest troll in AM-B.

Dave (think about it)

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JD said:

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You could take a 'who gives a toss what he thinks' approach, but the FAQ was meant to be fun,
not offensive to anyone.

So now it's meant as a disservice? There is no question that barry bargain's [censored] is just
that most of the time. You may as well take vandedork out because under your current reasoning,
he shouldn't be in there.

Mike's a troll - all bets are off. Does that make me a hypocrite? Probably...

The FAQ is for newbies, no?

JD

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JD said:

>You could take a 'who gives a toss what he thinks' approach, but the

FAQ

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>was meant to be fun, not offensive to anyone.

So now it's meant as a disservice? There is no question that barry bargain's [censored] is just
that most of the time. You may as well take vandedork out because under your current
reasoning, he shouldn't be in there.

Mike's a troll - all bets are off. Does that make me a hypocrite? Probably...

The FAQ is for newbies, no?

JD

I agree with JD. The FAQ is for newbies, and while I understand the light-hearted approach, the
FAQ's main propose is to answer Frequently Asked Questioned. M.O.M. has enough volume of his BS
posted here and it is very easy for someone who doesn't know better to believe it.

I think we should put MOM in the FAQ as a warning. It need not be vicious, maybe something like...

"Barry Sanders: Take his comments with a grain of salt because many AMB regulars strongly disagree
with virtually anything he has to say."

Just my $.02
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Slacker

Slacker said:

I agree with JD. The FAQ is for newbies, and while I understand the light-hearted approach, the
FAQ's main propose is to answer

Frequently Asked

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Questioned. M.O.M. has enough volume of his BS posted here and it is

very

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easy for someone who doesn't know better to believe it.

I think we should put MOM in the FAQ as a warning. It need not be

vicious,

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maybe something like...

"Barry Sanders: Take his comments with a grain of salt because many

AMB

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regulars strongly disagree with virtually anything he has to say."

And include a visual to help folks out.

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Slacker said:

I agree with JD. The FAQ is for newbies, and while I understand the light-hearted approach, the
FAQ's main propose is to answer Frequently Asked Questioned. M.O.M. has enough volume of his BS
posted here and it is very easy for someone who doesn't know better to believe it.

I think we should put MOM in the FAQ as a warning. It need not be vicious, maybe something like...

"Barry Sanders: Take his comments with a grain of salt because many AMB regulars strongly disagree
with virtually anything he has to say."

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