Anyone else try Sport-hoop?

: Hi- I go to a gym that is similar to Curves ( a ladies circuit, we use
: nautilus machines) Anyway - they have these Sport-hoops and you can use it
: before, after or during the workout. It's a weighted hula-hoop and is
: supposed to trim your waist by 2 inches in 1 month if used daily for a
: certain amount of time.
:
: It's alot of fun at the gym so I decided to buy one since I can only go to
: the gym during babysitting hours (which are not daily)
:
: Just wondering if anyone else is familiar with this or has tryed it. I
: really don't expect to see miraculous results but it is alot of fun (even
: though it does bruise me at first) and it gets me off my butt.

I am glad you "really don't expect to see miraculous results" because you
won't get them! Whenever you are faced with some outrageous claim like that,
think it through logically. What is under the skin of your waist? How will
rotating a hoop around that result in any kind of disappearance of
what---muscle? fat? If that is all there is too it--just press lightly on
your fat and it will disappear---then the whole world would know about it
and you wouldn't need to buy the hoop! You could use your fingers....presto,
magico!

Pat in TX

"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

: Hi- I go to a gym that is similar to Curves ( a ladies circuit, we use
: nautilus machines) Anyway - they have these Sport-hoops and you can use
it
: before, after or during the workout. It's a weighted hula-hoop and is
: supposed to trim your waist by 2 inches in 1 month if used daily for a
: certain amount of time.
:
: It's alot of fun at the gym so I decided to buy one since I can only go
to
: the gym during babysitting hours (which are not daily)
:
: Just wondering if anyone else is familiar with this or has tryed it. I
: really don't expect to see miraculous results but it is alot of fun
(even
: though it does bruise me at first) and it gets me off my butt.

I am glad you "really don't expect to see miraculous results" because you
won't get them! Whenever you are faced with some outrageous claim like
that,
think it through logically. What is under the skin of your waist? How will
rotating a hoop around that result in any kind of disappearance of
what---muscle? fat? If that is all there is too it--just press lightly on
your fat and it will disappear---then the whole world would know about it
and you wouldn't need to buy the hoop! You could use your
fingers....presto,
magico!

Pat in TX

Thank you for responding with the sole purpose of implying that I may be a
moron.

There have been repeating assertions on here that there is no such thing as
spot reducing. I can't claim experience with having tried to do spot
reducing, but I strongly suspect that it is true.

The value of the device would be in having fun with it, to stave off the
boredom of exercise. That assumes we have not ruined the experience for
you....

"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

: Hi- I go to a gym that is similar to Curves ( a ladies circuit, we use
: nautilus machines) Anyway - they have these Sport-hoops and you can use

it

Quoted message said:

: before, after or during the workout. It's a weighted hula-hoop and is
: supposed to trim your waist by 2 inches in 1 month if used daily for a
: certain amount of time.
:
: It's alot of fun at the gym so I decided to buy one since I can only go

to

Quoted message said:

: the gym during babysitting hours (which are not daily)
:
: Just wondering if anyone else is familiar with this or has tryed it. I
: really don't expect to see miraculous results but it is alot of fun

(even

Quoted message said:

: though it does bruise me at first) and it gets me off my butt.

I am glad you "really don't expect to see miraculous results" because you
won't get them! Whenever you are faced with some outrageous claim like

that,

Quoted message said:

think it through logically. What is under the skin of your waist? How will
rotating a hoop around that result in any kind of disappearance of
what---muscle? fat? If that is all there is too it--just press lightly on
your fat and it will disappear---then the whole world would know about it
and you wouldn't need to buy the hoop! You could use your

fingers....presto,

Quoted message said:

magico!

Pat in TX

Cubit said:

There have been repeating assertions on here that there is no such thing as
spot reducing. I can't claim experience with having tried to do spot
reducing, but I strongly suspect that it is true.

The value of the device would be in having fun with it, to stave off the
boredom of exercise. That assumes we have not ruined the experience for
you....

"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

: Hi- I go to a gym that is similar to Curves ( a ladies circuit, we use
: nautilus machines) Anyway - they have these Sport-hoops and you can use

it

Quoted message said:

: before, after or during the workout. It's a weighted hula-hoop and is
: supposed to trim your waist by 2 inches in 1 month if used daily for a
: certain amount of time.
:
: It's alot of fun at the gym so I decided to buy one since I can only go

to

Quoted message said:

: the gym during babysitting hours (which are not daily)
:
: Just wondering if anyone else is familiar with this or has tryed it. I
: really don't expect to see miraculous results but it is alot of fun

(even

Quoted message said:

: though it does bruise me at first) and it gets me off my butt.

I am glad you "really don't expect to see miraculous results" because you
won't get them! Whenever you are faced with some outrageous claim like

that,

Quoted message said:

think it through logically. What is under the skin of your waist? How will
rotating a hoop around that result in any kind of disappearance of
what---muscle? fat? If that is all there is too it--just press lightly on
your fat and it will disappear---then the whole world would know about it
and you wouldn't need to buy the hoop! You could use your

Why wouldn't a hula hoop tone your abs like belly dancing does?

brigid

"Brigid Nelson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Cubit said:

There have been repeating assertions on here that there is no such thing
as
spot reducing. I can't claim experience with having tried to do spot
reducing, but I strongly suspect that it is true.

The value of the device would be in having fun with it, to stave off the
boredom of exercise. That assumes we have not ruined the experience for
you....

"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

: Hi- I go to a gym that is similar to Curves ( a ladies circuit, we use
: nautilus machines) Anyway - they have these Sport-hoops and you can use

it

Quoted message said:

: before, after or during the workout. It's a weighted hula-hoop and is
: supposed to trim your waist by 2 inches in 1 month if used daily for a
: certain amount of time.
:
: It's alot of fun at the gym so I decided to buy one since I can only go

to

Quoted message said:

: the gym during babysitting hours (which are not daily)
:
: Just wondering if anyone else is familiar with this or has tryed it. I
: really don't expect to see miraculous results but it is alot of fun

(even

Quoted message said:

: though it does bruise me at first) and it gets me off my butt.

I am glad you "really don't expect to see miraculous results" because you
won't get them! Whenever you are faced with some outrageous claim like

that,

Quoted message said:

think it through logically. What is under the skin of your waist? How
will
rotating a hoop around that result in any kind of disappearance of
what---muscle? fat? If that is all there is too it--just press lightly
on
your fat and it will disappear---then the whole world would know about it
and you wouldn't need to buy the hoop! You could use your

Why wouldn't a hula hoop tone your abs like belly dancing does?

I dont think pat is taking into account that there is more to hula hooping
then spinning it arround your waist and letting it fall to the floor. You
have to do that funny hula hoop dance that I have never mastered😉

Tori

--
Bonnie 3/02
Xavier 10/04

Goal 1- lose 20 lbs

Quoting "nanner" <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

Hi- I go to a gym that is similar to Curves ( a ladies circuit, we use
nautilus machines) Anyway - they have these Sport-hoops and you can use it
before, after or during the workout. It's a weighted hula-hoop and is
supposed to trim your waist by 2 inches in 1 month if used daily for a
certain amount of time.

It's alot of fun at the gym so I decided to buy one since I can only go to
the gym during babysitting hours (which are not daily)

Just wondering if anyone else is familiar with this or has tryed it. I
really don't expect to see miraculous results but it is alot of fun (even
though it does bruise me at first) and it gets me off my butt.

This morning I did a little free-weights, crunches and 10 minutes with the
hoop.

here's the site, I'm not in any way associated with them I just never saw it
before and wonder if any of you use it too!
http://www.sports-hoop.com/

I've got the 3lb Acu-hoop.

For the most part, spot reduction (that is, selectively reducing body
fat in a particular area via exercise) is a myth.

However, assuming your weight stays constant, you may very well see an
improvement in the waist measurement initially (this is less likely if
you're not a relative newbie to working the abs).

The reason would be due to improvements in posture, moreso than
"muscle tone", which is pretty much a misnomer to begin with.

For example, slump over a bit and measure the waist. Then stand up
straight with ab muscles erect (without sucking in) and measure again.
You'll likely get two different results.

If you enjoy it and it encourages you to do ab work, fine, use it.
But you don't need the Acu-hoop or any special equipment to work your
abs. Crunches work just fine. Compound lifts done with good form are
also great for the abs (I rarely bother with isolation ab work
anymore).

"nanner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi- I go to a gym that is similar to Curves ( a ladies circuit, we use
nautilus machines) Anyway - they have these Sport-hoops and you can use it
before, after or during the workout. It's a weighted hula-hoop and is
supposed to trim your waist by 2 inches in 1 month if used daily for a
certain amount of time.

Well, I used to be a dab hand at hula-hooping in the 60s, and I had a good
waist then : ) Sounds fun, bet it'll work up a sweat, and be a good ab
exercise - it's got to work every bit of your abs. I wonder if the weight
makes it easier or harder?

Nicky.

--
A1c 10.5/4.5/<6 Weight 95/77/72Kg
1g Metformin, 87.5ug Thyroxine
T2 DX 05/2004

"nanner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi- I go to a gym that is similar to Curves ( a ladies circuit, we use
nautilus machines) Anyway - they have these Sport-hoops and you can use it
before, after or during the workout. It's a weighted hula-hoop and is
supposed to trim your waist by 2 inches in 1 month if used daily for a
certain amount of time.

It's alot of fun at the gym so I decided to buy one since I can only go to
the gym during babysitting hours (which are not daily)

Just wondering if anyone else is familiar with this or has tryed it. I
really don't expect to see miraculous results but it is alot of fun (even
though it does bruise me at first) and it gets me off my butt.

This morning I did a little free-weights, crunches and 10 minutes with the
hoop.

here's the site, I'm not in any way associated with them I just never saw
it before and wonder if any of you use it too!
http://www.sports-hoop.com/

I've got the 3lb Acu-hoop.

Hey if anything you will be using calories trying to keep it up... Something
I can't do even with a toy Hula-hoop.

Have fun!
Angie

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

There have been repeating assertions on here that there is no such thing
as
spot reducing. I can't claim experience with having tried to do spot
reducing, but I strongly suspect that it is true.

The value of the device would be in having fun with it, to stave off the
boredom of exercise. That assumes we have not ruined the experience for
you....

Not at all. I like to do 2 tiimes around the circuit, then 10 minutes with
the hoop and if I have anything left I will go another circuit or hit a few
specific machines.

I think it must target some muscles, a wieghted hoop does not magically fly
around the torso you know :o)

maybe i'll be the guinea pig - I'll take measurements then hoop for a month
and see what happens

Quoted message said:

"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

: Hi- I go to a gym that is similar to Curves ( a ladies circuit, we use
: nautilus machines) Anyway - they have these Sport-hoops and you can use

it

Quoted message said:

: before, after or during the workout. It's a weighted hula-hoop and is
: supposed to trim your waist by 2 inches in 1 month if used daily for a
: certain amount of time.
:
: It's alot of fun at the gym so I decided to buy one since I can only go

to

Quoted message said:

: the gym during babysitting hours (which are not daily)
:
: Just wondering if anyone else is familiar with this or has tryed it. I
: really don't expect to see miraculous results but it is alot of fun

(even

Quoted message said:

: though it does bruise me at first) and it gets me off my butt.

I am glad you "really don't expect to see miraculous results" because you
won't get them! Whenever you are faced with some outrageous claim like

that,

Quoted message said:

think it through logically. What is under the skin of your waist? How
will
rotating a hoop around that result in any kind of disappearance of
what---muscle? fat? If that is all there is too it--just press lightly
on
your fat and it will disappear---then the whole world would know about it
and you wouldn't need to buy the hoop! You could use your

fingers....presto,

Quoted message said:

magico!

Pat in TX

"Tori M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Brigid Nelson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Cubit said:

There have been repeating assertions on here that there is no such thing
as
spot reducing. I can't claim experience with having tried to do spot
reducing, but I strongly suspect that it is true.

The value of the device would be in having fun with it, to stave off the
boredom of exercise. That assumes we have not ruined the experience for
you....

"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

>: Hi- I go to a gym that is similar to Curves ( a ladies circuit, we use
>: nautilus machines) Anyway - they have these Sport-hoops and you can
>use

it

>: before, after or during the workout. It's a weighted hula-hoop and is
>: supposed to trim your waist by 2 inches in 1 month if used daily for a
>: certain amount of time.
>:
>: It's alot of fun at the gym so I decided to buy one since I can only
>go

to

>: the gym during babysitting hours (which are not daily)
>:
>: Just wondering if anyone else is familiar with this or has tryed it. I
>: really don't expect to see miraculous results but it is alot of fun

(even

>: though it does bruise me at first) and it gets me off my butt.
>
>I am glad you "really don't expect to see miraculous results" because
>you
>won't get them! Whenever you are faced with some outrageous claim like

that,

>think it through logically. What is under the skin of your waist? How
>will

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Why wouldn't a hula hoop tone your abs like belly dancing does?

I dont think pat is taking into account that there is more to hula hooping
then spinning it arround your waist and letting it fall to the floor. You
have to do that funny hula hoop dance that I have never mastered😉

don't forget it's weighted - this is not a flimsy toy hoop

Could your assertions possibly become more asinine?

I personally doubt it.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Pedro's Cat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Suze suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious said:

Quoting "nanner" <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

Hi- I go to a gym that is similar to Curves ( a ladies circuit, we use
nautilus machines) Anyway - they have these Sport-hoops and you can use
it
before, after or during the workout. It's a weighted hula-hoop and is
supposed to trim your waist by 2 inches in 1 month if used daily for a
certain amount of time.

It's alot of fun at the gym so I decided to buy one since I can only go
to
the gym during babysitting hours (which are not daily)

Just wondering if anyone else is familiar with this or has tryed it. I
really don't expect to see miraculous results but it is alot of fun
(even
though it does bruise me at first) and it gets me off my butt.

This morning I did a little free-weights, crunches and 10 minutes with
the
hoop.

here's the site, I'm not in any way associated with them I just never
saw it
before and wonder if any of you use it too!
http://www.sports-hoop.com/

I've got the 3lb Acu-hoop.

For the most part, spot reduction (that is, selectively reducing body
fat in a particular area via exercise) is a myth.

More misinformation, commonplace on these groups. Spot reduction is
quite achievable, spot reduction by dieting alone is a myth. When you
burn fat, you do not burn an equal amount from all fat stored on your
body, you burn the more readily available fat first. Availability is
determined by both the locality and the 'condition' of the stored fat.
Heat, as in that generated by local muscles working, will make some fat
more readily available than other areas of fat. Massage, ultra-sound,
infra-red heat pads can all help localize fat usage and allow a degree
of specific area reduction.

Quoted message said:

However, assuming your weight stays constant, you may very well see an
improvement in the waist measurement initially (this is less likely if
you're not a relative newbie to working the abs).

The reason would be due to improvements in posture, moreso than
"muscle tone", which is pretty much a misnomer to begin with.

[censored]. If you think that 'muscle tone' is a misnomer, you know very
little about fitness.

Quoted message said:

For example, slump over a bit and measure the waist. Then stand up
straight with ab muscles erect (without sucking in) and measure again.
You'll likely get two different results.

If you enjoy it and it encourages you to do ab work, fine, use it.
But you don't need the Acu-hoop or any special equipment to work your
abs. Crunches work just fine. Compound lifts done with good form are
also great for the abs (I rarely bother with isolation ab work
anymore).

This is rubbish. Lifting is NOT a good way for an inexperienced, out of
condition, overweight person to improve abs. You are a thoughtless,
unknowledgeable, potentially dangerous idiot. People following your
advice or suggestions are likely to suffer serious injury.

This person, 'Suze' is a good example of the danger of accepting advice
from newsgroup participants. If you want advice, find a professional,
don't expect useful help from usenet. Find a tertiary trained
physio-therapist with a few years of experience, not a 'coach' in a
local gym, and definitely not a wannabe on usenet.

In fact, asking for advice about fitness or weight loss on this type of
newsgroup is like advertising for a math coach and specifying that you
are only interested in being coached by a person who has failed very
math test they have attempted. Why not ask Liz Taylor for advice about
successful long term marriages? It would make as much sense. These
groups are primarily populated by people who CANNOT lose weight or get
fit, even after, in many cases, a lifetime of failed attempts. What
could they possibly know?

Think about it!

PC

So, to recap your post: You are the only one with any knowledge on weight
loss or physical fitness--anyone who says different is simply an idiot.

Ah yes, it's clear, now.

Pat in TX

: Not at all. I like to do 2 tiimes around the circuit, then 10 minutes with
: the hoop and if I have anything left I will go another circuit or hit a
few
: specific machines.
:
: I think it must target some muscles, a wieghted hoop does not magically
fly
: around the torso you know :o)
:
: maybe i'll be the guinea pig - I'll take measurements then hoop for a
month
: and see what happens

Face it, you WANT to believe the hype. You have talked yourself into it.
And, now, you're trying to recruit others to believe it simply because you
want so much for it to be true.

Pat in TX

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

So, to recap your post: You are the only one with any knowledge on weight
loss or physical fitness--anyone who says different is simply an idiot.

Ah yes, it's clear, now.

To whom are you speaking?

--
Saffire
205/144/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

nanner said:

"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

: Hi- I go to a gym that is similar to Curves ( a ladies circuit, we
: use nautilus machines) Anyway - they have these Sport-hoops and
: you can use
it
: before, after or during the workout. It's a weighted hula-hoop
: and is supposed to trim your waist by 2 inches in 1 month if used
: daily for a certain amount of time.
:
: It's alot of fun at the gym so I decided to buy one since I can
: only go
to
: the gym during babysitting hours (which are not daily)
:
: Just wondering if anyone else is familiar with this or has tryed
: it. I really don't expect to see miraculous results but it is alot
: of fun
(even
: though it does bruise me at first) and it gets me off my butt.

I am glad you "really don't expect to see miraculous results"
because you won't get them! Whenever you are faced with some
outrageous claim like that,
think it through logically. What is under the skin of your waist?
How will rotating a hoop around that result in any kind of
disappearance of what---muscle? fat? If that is all there is too
it--just press lightly on your fat and it will disappear---then the
whole world would know about it and you wouldn't need to buy the
hoop! You could use your fingers....presto,
magico!

Pat in TX

Thank you for responding with the sole purpose of implying that I may
be a moron.

🙂

Pedro's Cat said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Suze suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious said:

Quoting "nanner" <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

Hi- I go to a gym that is similar to Curves ( a ladies circuit, we
use nautilus machines) Anyway - they have these Sport-hoops and you
can use it before, after or during the workout. It's a weighted
hula-hoop and is supposed to trim your waist by 2 inches in 1 month
if used daily for a certain amount of time.

It's alot of fun at the gym so I decided to buy one since I can
only go to the gym during babysitting hours (which are not daily)

Just wondering if anyone else is familiar with this or has tryed
it. I really don't expect to see miraculous results but it is alot
of fun (even though it does bruise me at first) and it gets me off
my butt.

This morning I did a little free-weights, crunches and 10 minutes
with the hoop.

here's the site, I'm not in any way associated with them I just
never saw it before and wonder if any of you use it too!
http://www.sports-hoop.com/

I've got the 3lb Acu-hoop.

For the most part, spot reduction (that is, selectively reducing body
fat in a particular area via exercise) is a myth.

More misinformation, commonplace on these groups. Spot reduction is
quite achievable, spot reduction by dieting alone is a myth. When you
burn fat, you do not burn an equal amount from all fat stored on your
body, you burn the more readily available fat first. Availability is
determined by both the locality and the 'condition' of the stored fat.
Heat, as in that generated by local muscles working, will make some
fat
more readily available than other areas of fat. Massage, ultra-sound,
infra-red heat pads can all help localize fat usage and allow a degree
of specific area reduction.

Quoted message said:

However, assuming your weight stays constant, you may very well see
an improvement in the waist measurement initially (this is less
likely if you're not a relative newbie to working the abs).

The reason would be due to improvements in posture, moreso than
"muscle tone", which is pretty much a misnomer to begin with.

[censored]. If you think that 'muscle tone' is a misnomer, you know very
little about fitness.

Quoted message said:

For example, slump over a bit and measure the waist. Then stand up
straight with ab muscles erect (without sucking in) and measure
again. You'll likely get two different results.

If you enjoy it and it encourages you to do ab work, fine, use it.
But you don't need the Acu-hoop or any special equipment to work your
abs. Crunches work just fine. Compound lifts done with good form
are
also great for the abs (I rarely bother with isolation ab work
anymore).

This is rubbish. Lifting is NOT a good way for an inexperienced, out
of condition, overweight person to improve abs. You are a thoughtless,
unknowledgeable, potentially dangerous idiot. People following your
advice or suggestions are likely to suffer serious injury.

This person, 'Suze' is a good example of the danger of accepting
advice
from newsgroup participants. If you want advice, find a professional,
don't expect useful help from usenet. Find a tertiary trained
physio-therapist with a few years of experience, not a 'coach' in a
local gym, and definitely not a wannabe on usenet.

In fact, asking for advice about fitness or weight loss on this type
of newsgroup is like advertising for a math coach and specifying that
you
are only interested in being coached by a person who has failed very
math test they have attempted. Why not ask Liz Taylor for advice about
successful long term marriages? It would make as much sense. These
groups are primarily populated by people who CANNOT lose weight or get
fit, even after, in many cases, a lifetime of failed attempts. What
could they possibly know?

Think about it!

PC

Yeah...you're living proof of your own statements.

Quoting Pedro's Cat <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Suze <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote:

[brev.]

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

For the most part, spot reduction (that is, selectively reducing body
fat in a particular area via exercise) is a myth.

More misinformation, commonplace on these groups. Spot reduction is
quite achievable, spot reduction by dieting alone is a myth.

When you
burn fat, you do not burn an equal amount from all fat stored on your
body, you burn the more readily available fat first. Availability is
determined by both the locality and the 'condition' of the stored fat.

Duh. Ya think?

But what do the above two sentences describing how fat is burned have
to do with an *intentional* effort to reduce in a specific area?

Quoted message said:

Heat, as in that generated by local muscles working, will make some fat
more readily available than other areas of fat. Massage, ultra-sound,
infra-red heat pads can all help localize fat usage and allow a degree
of specific area reduction.

I'm sure all the women out there with fat butts and thighs will be
just thrilled to hear about this.

And just in time for swimsuit season.

*snicker*

Please post the peer reviewed studies demonstrating that *material*
and *lasting* spot reduction can be achieved by the methods you cite
above.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

However, assuming your weight stays constant, you may very well see an
improvement in the waist measurement initially (this is less likely if
you're not a relative newbie to working the abs).

The reason would be due to improvements in posture, moreso than
"muscle tone", which is pretty much a misnomer to begin with.

[censored]. If you think that 'muscle tone' is a misnomer, you know very
little about fitness.

Feel free to attempt to accurately define improved "muscle tone" in a
way that excludes actual hypertrophy.

[...]

Quoted message said:

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If you enjoy it and it encourages you to do ab work, fine, use it.
But you don't need the Acu-hoop or any special equipment to work your
abs. Crunches work just fine. Compound lifts done with good form are
also great for the abs (I rarely bother with isolation ab work
anymore).

This is rubbish. Lifting is NOT a good way for an inexperienced, out of
condition, overweight person to improve abs.

Nonsense. You're obviously trolling. The alternative (that you're
actually this aggressively stupid and proud of it) is unthinkable.

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LOL

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Nonsense. You're obviously trolling. The alternative (that you're
actually this aggressively stupid and proud of it) is unthinkable. -- Suze

"Suze" <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote in message
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Quoting Pedro's Cat <[email hidden]>:

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In article <[email hidden]>,
Suze <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote:

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For the most part, spot reduction (that is, selectively reducing body
fat in a particular area via exercise) is a myth.

More misinformation, commonplace on these groups. Spot reduction is
quite achievable, spot reduction by dieting alone is a myth.

When you
burn fat, you do not burn an equal amount from all fat stored on your
body, you burn the more readily available fat first. Availability is
determined by both the locality and the 'condition' of the stored fat.

Duh. Ya think?

But what do the above two sentences describing how fat is burned have
to do with an *intentional* effort to reduce in a specific area?

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Heat, as in that generated by local muscles working, will make some fat
more readily available than other areas of fat. Massage, ultra-sound,
infra-red heat pads can all help localize fat usage and allow a degree
of specific area reduction.

I'm sure all the women out there with fat butts and thighs will be
just thrilled to hear about this.

And just in time for swimsuit season.

*snicker*

Please post the peer reviewed studies demonstrating that *material*
and *lasting* spot reduction can be achieved by the methods you cite
above.

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However, assuming your weight stays constant, you may very well see an
improvement in the waist measurement initially (this is less likely if
you're not a relative newbie to working the abs).

The reason would be due to improvements in posture, moreso than
"muscle tone", which is pretty much a misnomer to begin with.

[censored]. If you think that 'muscle tone' is a misnomer, you know very
little about fitness.

Feel free to attempt to accurately define improved "muscle tone" in a
way that excludes actual hypertrophy.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If you enjoy it and it encourages you to do ab work, fine, use it.
But you don't need the Acu-hoop or any special equipment to work your
abs. Crunches work just fine. Compound lifts done with good form are
also great for the abs (I rarely bother with isolation ab work
anymore).

This is rubbish. Lifting is NOT a good way for an inexperienced, out of
condition, overweight person to improve abs.

Nonsense. You're obviously trolling. The alternative (that you're
actually this aggressively stupid and proud of it) is unthinkable.

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"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: Not at all. I like to do 2 tiimes around the circuit, then 10 minutes
with
: the hoop and if I have anything left I will go another circuit or hit a
few
: specific machines.
:
: I think it must target some muscles, a wieghted hoop does not magically
fly
: around the torso you know :o)
:
: maybe i'll be the guinea pig - I'll take measurements then hoop for a
month
: and see what happens

Face it, you WANT to believe the hype. You have talked yourself into it.
And, now, you're trying to recruit others to believe it simply because you
want so much for it to be true.

Pat in TX

no i don't - i just think it's fun.