Anyone else just surrendering?

Bob M wrote:
|| On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:38:04 -0500, Roger Zoul
|| <[email hidden]> wrote:
||
||| ClabberHead 5.0 wrote:
||||| I've been low carbing for the last year and a half, have lost
||||| 50 lbs, am almost at goal, and feel great. However the pressure
||||| of Christmas time is slowly taking its toll on me. Only my wife
||||| and I are low carbing in either of our families, and it's hard to
||||| pass up the tempting treats at our holiday parties. I know I'm
||||| not going to be able to pass up the jambalaya, gumbo, etouffee,
||||| boudain and other carby dishes. Therefore I have declared the
||||| rest of December a FREE MONTH!!! I'll still be good when I'm
||||| eating at home, but at the parties all bets are off. I'll just
||||| buckle down and work even harder once January rolls around. At
||||| least until the 27th anyhow, it's my birthday, and is also going
||||| to be a free day 🙂 I'll have to post my new stats as of Jan 1
||||| when I weigh in. --
|||
||| why can't you just have a few free days? Why do you need an entire
||| month?
|||
|||
|| He is. The rest of December is what he's declaring as free.
||

Yeah. I keyed on "FREE MONTH!!!" 🙂 Still, I don't see why he can't just
pick and choose a few days off between now and January 2. In fact, the days
between Christmas and New Years Day could be ON time. Even that time would
help and would likely prevent real fat gain.

|| --
|| Bob in CT

Bob M wrote:
|| On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:37:29 -0500, Roger Zoul
|| <[email hidden]> wrote:
||
||| Bob M wrote:
||||| On 23 Dec 2004 15:57:52 GMT, Ignoramus8229
||||| <[email hidden]> wrote:
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|||||| On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:55:38 -0000, Eric J. Holtman
|||||| <[email hidden]> wrote:
||||||| Ignoramus8229 <[email hidden]> wrote in
||||||| news:[email hidden]:
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|||||||| On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:39:48 -0500, Bob M
|||||||| <[email hidden]> wrote:
||||||||| My girlfriend does support it (doesn't follow it), but there
||||||||| are no, and I mean NO, low carb options at these parties.
||||||||| (Not even meat that's not in/wrapped in something else.)
||||||||| Thanks for the support, though.
|||||||||
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|||||||| Can you take your own food with you?
|||||||
||||||| It's..... just..... a..... party.
|||||||
||||||| Eat the food.
|||||||
||||||| Enjoy yourself.
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|||||| The OP can enjoy himself and bring some nice low carb food with
|||||| him.
||||||
|||||| I doubt that party hosts would object to him bringing, say, a
|||||| rotisserie chicken and some other meat or fish.
||||||
|||||
||||| And you have time to make this, when? I really don't have time to
||||| make anything. I'm lucky enough to have the time to get to the
||||| darn party.
|||
||| Buy something.
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||
|| Like? It's very hard to buy something that's low carb. That's
|| what's hard about low carb. The world is based on high carb, low
|| fat. Other than a plate of vegetables, there's really nothing I can
|| think of to buy (even quiche is filled with partially hydrogenated
|| oils, sugars, and the like). Heck, I have a very hard time buying
|| stuff for myself, and I'm typically resorting to sausage and the
|| like.

Nuts. Deviled eggs...and cheese and meat (assorted) tray. Different types
of cheese balls, or just cheese. I took nuts to a holiday affair I went to
last week. I ate some and so did others.

Yes. I'm going to eat anything I want on Christmas Eve after 5 P.M.
through Christmas Day to 5 P.M. It works for me. :-)

--
Cheri

ClabberHead 5.0 wrote in message ...

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I've been low carbing for the last year and a half, have lost 50

lbs,

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am almost at goal, and feel great. However the pressure of Christmas

time

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is slowly taking its toll on me. Only my wife and I are low carbing in
either of our families, and it's hard to pass up the tempting treats at

our

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holiday parties. I know I'm not going to be able to pass up the

jambalaya,

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gumbo, etouffee, boudain and other carby dishes. Therefore I have

declared

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the rest of December a FREE MONTH!!! I'll still be good when I'm

eating at

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home, but at the parties all bets are off. I'll just buckle down and

work

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even harder once January rolls around. At least until the 27th anyhow,

it's

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my birthday, and is also going to be a free day 🙂 I'll have to post

my new

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stats as of Jan 1 when I weigh in.
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"Think about how stupid the average person is, then remember half of

them

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are stupider than that!" - George Carlin

Eric J. Holtman said:

Or, the OP can just eat whatever is there. Contrary to what
some zealots would have you believe, eating a few cookies, a
piece of cake, or a couple of potatoes will *not* kill you.

Really, it won't.

Maybe that will be the spike that kills a few extra beta
cells and tips you into full blown diabetes. Maybe those
are the cookies that take you off into a month long binge.

It is not zealotry to notice a lot of people don't really
have the moderation thing down. Look around.

Kevin Hill wrote:
|| Eric J. Holtman wrote:
||| Or, the OP can just eat whatever is there. Contrary to what
||| some zealots would have you believe, eating a few cookies, a
||| piece of cake, or a couple of potatoes will *not* kill you.
|||
||| Really, it won't.
||
|| Maybe that will be the spike that kills a few extra beta
|| cells and tips you into full blown diabetes. Maybe those
|| are the cookies that take you off into a month long binge.
||
|| It is not zealotry to notice a lot of people don't really
|| have the moderation thing down. Look around.

Yeah, many here have real problems with moderation......we do best (easier)
on the extremes...either way high carbs or way low carbs....moderation is
hard!

Kevin Hill <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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Maybe that will be the spike that kills a few extra beta
cells and tips you into full blown diabetes. Maybe those
are the cookies that take you off into a month long binge.

It is not zealotry to notice a lot of people don't really
have the moderation thing down. Look around.

Oh. I see.

Your anecdotal evidence is better than my anecdotal evidence.

That definitely clears things up.

<snort>

Look.... the reality is, *most* people will probably do just fine
with a couple of days break. Sure, you'll probably put on 5 pounds
of water weight. BFD. It will disappear quickly with Induction.

Some things in life are more important than strict adherence to
a narrow diet plan. Learn to live a little around the edges. It
makes staying on plan easier, in the long run.

"ClabberHead 5.0" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've been low carbing for the last year and a half, have lost 50 lbs,
am almost at goal, and feel great. However the pressure of Christmas time
is slowly taking its toll on me. Only my wife and I are low carbing in
either of our families, and it's hard to pass up the tempting treats at
our holiday parties. I know I'm not going to be able to pass up the
jambalaya, gumbo, etouffee, boudain and other carby dishes. Therefore I
have declared the rest of December a FREE MONTH!!! I'll still be good
when I'm eating at home, but at the parties all bets are off. I'll just
buckle down and work even harder once January rolls around. At least
until the 27th anyhow, it's my birthday, and is also going to be a free
day 🙂 I'll have to post my new stats as of Jan 1 when I weigh in.

I wouldn't call what I'm doing "surrendering" but I think it is similar.
Starting with my Thanksgiving visit down south at my brother's house, I have
not been as strict.
I am still trying to avoid sugar, and items with sugar/corn
syrup/hydrogentated oil as ingrediants. However, I had some white bread. I
also ate 1 homemade waffle w/ sugar-free syrup at a big breakfast party last
week. I've had regular pizza a couple of times. Let's see... I haven't
been counting my carbs, but for the most part I'm still eating the same
habits that I've developed this year. So I don't think I've surrendered,
but I am "taking it easy". It's been a tough year. I love my new way of
eating, though, and it's not going anywhere. I'll take food choices a
little more lax until New Year's Day (my 1 year low carb anniversary) and
then I am planning to go strict again, starting with 2 weeks of
super-strict.
I've avoided all the cake, truffles, donuts, and tons of other goodies that
have been free, available, and surrounding me for weeks at work. I have not
given into that, because I have self-control now, which is something I did
not have a year ago. However, I am not going down that path. Sugar is
awful for me. The rush and the cravings... bad bad bad.

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Is that why you're in such great shape?

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"Eric J. Holtman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Kevin Hill <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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Maybe that will be the spike that kills a few extra beta
cells and tips you into full blown diabetes. Maybe those
are the cookies that take you off into a month long binge.

It is not zealotry to notice a lot of people don't really
have the moderation thing down. Look around.

Oh. I see.

Your anecdotal evidence is better than my anecdotal evidence.

That definitely clears things up.

<snort>

Look.... the reality is, *most* people will probably do just fine
with a couple of days break. Sure, you'll probably put on 5 pounds
of water weight. BFD. It will disappear quickly with Induction.

Some things in life are more important than strict adherence to
a narrow diet plan. Learn to live a little around the edges. It
makes staying on plan easier, in the long run.

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:gmFyd.5269$iC4.979
@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com:

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Is that why you're in such great shape?

Well, I've lost over 100lbs. So, yeah, I'd say
cheating here and there has helped a great deal.

You'll have to try harder, JC.

Jared lost over 100 pounds and he's not in great shape.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"Eric J. Holtman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:gmFyd.5269$iC4.979
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Is that why you're in such great shape?

Well, I've lost over 100lbs. So, yeah, I'd say
cheating here and there has helped a great deal.

You'll have to try harder, JC.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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ClabberHead 5.0 wrote:
|| I've been low carbing for the last year and a half, have lost
|| 50 lbs, am almost at goal, and feel great. However the pressure of
|| Christmas time is slowly taking its toll on me. Only my wife and I
|| are low carbing in either of our families, and it's hard to pass up
|| the tempting treats at our holiday parties. I know I'm not going to
|| be able to pass up the jambalaya, gumbo, etouffee, boudain and other
|| carby dishes. Therefore I have declared the rest of December a FREE
|| MONTH!!! I'll still be good when I'm eating at home, but at the
|| parties all bets are off. I'll just buckle down and work even
|| harder once January rolls around. At least until the 27th anyhow,
|| it's my birthday, and is also going to be a free day 🙂 I'll have
|| to post my new stats as of Jan 1 when I weigh in. --

why can't you just have a few free days? Why do you need an entire month?

It's not a whole month, just the rest of December, about 1 1/2 weeks. And
I'm not going off completely. I'm still going to eat low-carb on the days I
don't have a party to go to.
--
ClabberHead 5.0 (aka Iron Chef Atkins)
248.5/189.0/185.0 Livin' La Vida Low-Carb since 5/1/03
Al-Team #"e" to 27 decimal places (2.71828182845904523536028747...)
MSTie # 93058
"Think about how stupid the average person is, then remember half of them
are stupider than that!" - George Carlin

ClabberHead 5.0 wrote:
|| "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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||| ClabberHead 5.0 wrote:
||||| I've been low carbing for the last year and a half, have lost
||||| 50 lbs, am almost at goal, and feel great. However the pressure
||||| of Christmas time is slowly taking its toll on me. Only my wife
||||| and I are low carbing in either of our families, and it's hard to
||||| pass up the tempting treats at our holiday parties. I know I'm
||||| not going to be able to pass up the jambalaya, gumbo, etouffee,
||||| boudain and other carby dishes. Therefore I have declared the
||||| rest of December a FREE MONTH!!! I'll still be good when I'm
||||| eating at home, but at the parties all bets are off. I'll just
||||| buckle down and work even
||||| harder once January rolls around. At least until the 27th anyhow,
||||| it's my birthday, and is also going to be a free day 🙂 I'll have
||||| to post my new stats as of Jan 1 when I weigh in. --
|||
||| why can't you just have a few free days? Why do you need an entire
||| month?
|||
||
|| It's not a whole month, just the rest of December, about 1 1/2
|| weeks. And I'm not going off completely. I'm still going to eat
|| low-carb on the days I don't have a party to go to.

Yeah...my eyes glued in on that "FREE MONTH!!!" part. Good luck.

Maybe not, but that hundred pounds made him a lot of money. :-)

--
Cheri
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and a peaceful New Year to all.

JC Der Koenig wrote in message

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Jared lost over 100 pounds and he's not in great shape.

So money's all you care about?

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Maybe not, but that hundred pounds made him a lot of money. :-)

--
Cheri
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and a peaceful New Year to all.

JC Der Koenig wrote in message

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Jared lost over 100 pounds and he's not in great shape.

Yep, a "ton" of it would be good. LOL

--
Cheri
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and a peaceful New Year to all.

JC Der Koenig wrote in message ...

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So money's all you care about?

--

Would you therefore be, "two tons of fun"?

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Yep, a "ton" of it would be good. LOL

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Cheri
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and a peaceful New Year to all.

JC Der Koenig wrote in message ...

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So money's all you care about?

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ClabberHead 5.0 wrote:
|| "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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||| ClabberHead 5.0 wrote:
||||| I've been low carbing for the last year and a half, have lost
||||| 50 lbs, am almost at goal, and feel great. However the pressure
||||| of Christmas time is slowly taking its toll on me. Only my wife
||||| and I are low carbing in either of our families, and it's hard to
||||| pass up the tempting treats at our holiday parties. I know I'm
||||| not going to be able to pass up the jambalaya, gumbo, etouffee,
||||| boudain and other carby dishes. Therefore I have declared the
||||| rest of December a FREE MONTH!!! I'll still be good when I'm
||||| eating at home, but at the parties all bets are off. I'll just
||||| buckle down and work even
||||| harder once January rolls around. At least until the 27th anyhow,
||||| it's my birthday, and is also going to be a free day 🙂 I'll have
||||| to post my new stats as of Jan 1 when I weigh in. --
|||
||| why can't you just have a few free days? Why do you need an entire
||| month?
|||
||
|| It's not a whole month, just the rest of December, about 1 1/2
|| weeks. And I'm not going off completely. I'm still going to eat
|| low-carb on the days I don't have a party to go to.

Yeah...my eyes glued in on that "FREE MONTH!!!" part. Good luck.

Thanks, I'll need it. My Grandma Boudreaux's shrimp gumbo is NOT to be
passed up 🙂
--
ClabberHead 5.0 (aka Iron Chef Atkins)
248.5/189.0/185.0 Livin' La Vida Low-Carb since 5/1/03
Al-Team #"e" to 27 decimal places (2.71828182845904523536028747...)
MSTie # 93058
"Think about how stupid the average person is, then remember half of them
are stupider than that!" - George Carlin

Absolutely, and Merry Christmas JC. :-)

--
Cheri
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and a peaceful New Year to all.

JC Der Koenig wrote in message
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Would you therefore be, "two tons of fun"?

I'm not having "too" much trouble this holiday season. I've managed to find
lower carb selections everywhere I've gone. I've stayed away from sugar since
when I eat it, 20 minutes later I get some sort of "crazy attack" from the
sugar rush. So far, my only downfall is eating a few too many "sugar free" (aka
sugar alcohol laden) snacks. I feel a little heavier (but clothing still fits
the same), but that's probably just water retention. I haven't given up the
rest of December, once the 26th rolls around, I'm back on my strict program (I
don't have any New Year's plans). I also plan on starting a weight
lifting/Pilates program to firm up from my weight loss (30 lbs with 10 to go).

Tonight (Xmas Eve) we're having home made lasagna with meatballs. I'll have a
small piece with a ball, and a large salad. SF Jello for dessert. Xmas day is
with the inlaws, I know there will be a cold cut plate, so for sure there will
be something for me to eat.

Happy Holidays to all here, I've learned a great deal in my 8 months on this
NG.

Bob M said:

Like? It's very hard to buy something that's low carb. That's what's
hard about low carb. The world is based on high carb, low fat. Other
than a plate of vegetables, there's really nothing I can think of to buy
(even quiche is filled with partially hydrogenated oils, sugars, and the
like). Heck, I have a very hard time buying stuff for myself, and I'm
typically resorting to sausage and the like.

--
Bob in CT

OH MY GOD STOP *WHINING*!

You can't go to a party and "starve". You can't eat before a party and go
for "6-8 hours" without eating (what the hell do you do at night?). It's
very hard to buy something that's low carb. Whine, moan, complain.

Look, you don't need excuses to cheat. If you're going to do it, just do
it.

If you aren't going to cheat, it's magically a lot easier to find those
"very hard" things to buy. In any supermarket. Rotisserie chicken,
cheese and deli plates, quality soft cheese spreads, precut celery and
carrot sticks, pickles, smoked salmon, pre-cooked shrimp plates.

And don't bother whining back about how that stuff is too expensive, or
you don't like seafood, or whatever excuse you're about to come up with.
Just shut up, and either follow your WOE or don't.

KeS