Anyone do "The Van Dam Lift"?

"J J" <[email hidden]> wrote

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You do a split across 2 benches, then pickup a 200 LB dumbell. I
don't know how Rob does it.

Strong, well stretched hamstrings and a reasonably strong upper body. Not
exactly rocket surgery.

It's such a functional lift, we should all train to do it.

David

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You do a split across 2 benches, then pickup a 200 LB dumbell. I
don't know how Rob does it.

http://www.robvandam.com/vandamlift.shtml

That dont look like 200lbs? Since the record is 166 lbs I dont think that
smiling picture was the record lift 🙂 However, I couldnt do it, nor do I
care to.

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"J J" <[email hidden]> wrote

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You do a split across 2 benches, then pickup a 200 LB dumbell. I
don't know how Rob does it.

Strong, well stretched hamstrings and a reasonably strong upper body.
Not exactly rocket surgery.

Let's put this into a little perspective. First of all, I just tried a
suspended split and did it, no problems, and I did more of real one than
this guy, who's got the bench half way up both calves. A real suspended
split means you've got your heels touching and nothing else, but it
probably requires an assistant to get into position. I had my wife
video tape it and if I can figure out how to cable my new computer to my
camera, I'll post it. I was a little rickety in terms of front-back
balance but, then again, I had one foot resting on my heel on a pile of
boards on my basement steps, and the other less on the bench than in
this video clip.

David, I think you should add "a well stretched groin" to your
description.

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It's such a functional lift, we should all train to do it.

Uh, yeah. 🙂

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

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David

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"J J" <[email hidden]> wrote

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You do a split across 2 benches, then pickup a 200 LB dumbell. I
don't know how Rob does it.

Strong, well stretched hamstrings and a reasonably strong upper body. Not
exactly rocket surgery.

Let's put this into a little perspective. First of all, I just tried a
suspended split and did it, no problems, and I did more of real one than
this guy, who's got the bench half way up both calves. A real suspended
split means you've got your heels touching and nothing else, but it
probably requires an assistant to get into position. I had my wife video
tape it and if I can figure out how to cable my new computer to my camera,
I'll post it. I was a little rickety in terms of front-back balance but,
then again, I had one foot resting on my heel on a pile of boards on my
basement steps, and the other less on the bench than in this video clip.

David, I think you should add "a well stretched groin" to your
description.

This will be the only time I agree to add a well stretched groin to
anything.

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It's such a functional lift, we should all train to do it.

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Uh, yeah. 🙂

Pavel does it.

David

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"J J" <[email hidden]> wrote
> You do a split across 2 benches, then pickup a 200 LB dumbell.
> I
> don't know how Rob does it.

Strong, well stretched hamstrings and a reasonably strong upper
body. Not exactly rocket surgery.

Let's put this into a little perspective. First of all, I just tried
a suspended split and did it, no problems, and I did more of real one
than this guy, who's got the bench half way up both calves. A real
suspended split means you've got your heels touching and nothing
else, but it probably requires an assistant to get into position. I
had my wife video tape it and if I can figure out how to cable my new
computer to my camera, I'll post it. I was a little rickety in terms
of front-back balance but, then again, I had one foot resting on my
heel on a pile of boards on my basement steps, and the other less on
the bench than in this video clip.

David, I think you should add "a well stretched groin" to your
description.

This will be the only time I agree to add a well stretched groin to
anything.

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It's such a functional lift, we should all train to do it.

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Uh, yeah. 🙂

Pavel does it.

Not that I've seen, but he does press a kettlebell from a split on the
floor, and so do I, just not a terribly heavy one. It's hard enough
keeping your fore-aft balance when on the floor when you're in a real
split - I'd like to see a shot from the side of this guy pulling 200
lbs. I suspect his legs aren't in a straight line but, since I don't
have a picture from any other angle, I can't say with any certainty one
way or the other.

Steve "he of well-stretched groin" Freides
http://www.kbnj.com

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David

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[email hidden] (J J) wrote in news:557-421A3566-24@storefull-
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You do a split across 2 benches, then pickup a 200 LB dumbell. I
don't know how Rob does it.

http://www.robvandam.com/vandamlift.shtml

That dont look like 200lbs? Since the record is 166 lbs I dont think
that
smiling picture was the record lift 🙂 However, I couldnt do it, nor
do I
care to.

Exactly what sort of record are we talking about here - got a web site,
federation, etc.?

I am curious and not yellow.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

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You do a split across 2 benches, then pickup a 200 LB dumbell. I
don't know how Rob does it.

http://www.robvandam.com/vandamlift.shtml

That dont look like 200lbs? Since the record is 166 lbs I dont think that
smiling picture was the record lift 🙂 However, I couldnt do it, nor do I
care to.

Exactly what sort of record are we talking about here - got a web site,
federation, etc.?

I am curious and not yellow.

The link in the original post, above.

dave h

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[email hidden] (J J) wrote in news:557-421A3566-24@storefull-
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> You do a split across 2 benches, then pickup a 200 LB dumbell.
> I
> don't know how Rob does it.
>
> http://www.robvandam.com/vandamlift.shtml
>

That dont look like 200lbs? Since the record is 166 lbs I dont think
that
smiling picture was the record lift 🙂 However, I couldnt do it, nor
do I
care to.

Exactly what sort of record are we talking about here - got a web
site, federation, etc.?

I am curious and not yellow.

The link in the original post, above.

Yep, it's a lift in the USAWA. I checked the rules at

http://www.usawa.com/rules.html

The foot has to be on the bench, which means you get the width of a
standard bench supporting your calf on each side, and there's no mention
of the legs being in a straight line, just that the hips are as low as
the feet.

I'll have to get a second bench and try this one and see how I do -
should be kind of fun. Interestingly, on the records page here:

http://iawa.homestead.com/files/WorldRecords/0WorldIndex.pdf

the Van Dam lift isn't even listed.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

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"J J" <[email hidden]> wrote

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You do a split across 2 benches, then pickup a 200 LB dumbell. I
don't know how Rob does it.

Strong, well stretched hamstrings and a reasonably strong upper body.
Not exactly rocket surgery.

Let's put this into a little perspective. First of all, I just tried a
suspended split and did it, no problems, and I did more of real one than
this guy, who's got the bench half way up both calves. A real suspended
split means you've got your heels touching and nothing else, but it
probably requires an assistant to get into position. I had my wife
video tape it and if I can figure out how to cable my new computer to my
camera, I'll post it. I was a little rickety in terms of front-back
balance but, then again, I had one foot resting on my heel on a pile of
boards on my basement steps, and the other less on the bench than in
this video clip.

David, I think you should add "a well stretched groin" to your
description.

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It's such a functional lift, we should all train to do it.

Uh, yeah. 🙂

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

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David

In the book Relax into Stretch Pavel said something about if we can
get one leg to 90 degrees why can't we do a full side split with both
legs? Can't remember why he said we can't do it.

(I also thought RVD was related to Jean Claude Van Damme, only because
they look like they could be brothers!)

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"J J" <[email hidden]> wrote
> You do a split across 2 benches, then pickup a 200 LB dumbell.
> I
> don't know how Rob does it.

Strong, well stretched hamstrings and a reasonably strong upper
body.
Not exactly rocket surgery.

Let's put this into a little perspective. First of all, I just tried
a
suspended split and did it, no problems, and I did more of real one
than
this guy, who's got the bench half way up both calves. A real
suspended
split means you've got your heels touching and nothing else, but it
probably requires an assistant to get into position. I had my wife
video tape it and if I can figure out how to cable my new computer to
my
camera, I'll post it. I was a little rickety in terms of front-back
balance but, then again, I had one foot resting on my heel on a pile
of
boards on my basement steps, and the other less on the bench than in
this video clip.

David, I think you should add "a well stretched groin" to your
description.

Quoted message said:

It's such a functional lift, we should all train to do it.

Uh, yeah. 🙂

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

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David

In the book Relax into Stretch Pavel said something about if we can
get one leg to 90 degrees why can't we do a full side split with both
legs? Can't remember why he said we can't do it.

There is no reason - habit, nothing more. If you teach your body that
it's safe to be in this position - and building some strength in this
position goes a long way towards convincing yourself that it's safe -
then your muscles will relax and you'll be in a full side split. When I
taught myself to do these, I took a very conservative approach in that I
did very little of the "relax" portion of the move - I just pushed my
legs out as hard as I could, sometimes pushing them into the ground as
hard as I could, and held those positions. Part of the reason for my
"strategy", such as it was, was that I was in TKD class and the floor
wasn't slippery - if I wanted to get out further, I had to muscle my way
out. I didn't find the "relax" part of contract/relax was even that
necessary at the beginning. This is, of course, how it worked for me -
your mileage may vary.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

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(I also thought RVD was related to Jean Claude Van Damme, only because
they look like they could be brothers!)