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  1. brockfisher05 said:

    *There are alot of basic riding skills that are not so basic that's
    what makes this such a great sport is the challenge behind it. Just
    remeber Klown practice makes perfect so practicing for 2 hrs may not
    get you very far in being a master at idling, I am just becoming
    someone who can idle non-stop and I have been riding for 3 years.

    So Just dont get angry get out there and do it again and again again
    until you get it, eventually it will come😄 *


    I learned how to ride forwards in 3 days, no joke....don't you think 2
    hours would get me somewere? 😉

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  2. Steering control is the most important thing, because you can't do much
    of anything else until you have good control over where the wheel is
    going. Wide turns are done by leaning in the direction you want to go.
    Sharp twists are done by using the inertia of your upper body to twist
    the wheel underneath you with your hips and legs. Many turns are
    combinations of the two. That's about all that can be explained in
    words; it's all reflexes, just like walking. As with everything else in
    unicycling, the only way to learn it is to do it over and over and over
    until your body figures out what it needs to do to stay on the thing.
    The mind is a hindrance; turn it off.

    Don't focus too much on idling until you learn how to steer pretty well,
    especially with the inertial body-twist type of steering, because you
    are actually steering constantly as you idle. Balance a long stick on
    your finger, and see how in order for the stick to remain upright, the
    bottom end has to move around more than the top end does, in all
    directions. As the stick starts to tip, your finger has to go beyond the
    balance point in the same direction in order to correct the imbalance
    and keep the top end more or less stationary. You have to move your uni
    wheel around underneath you in the same way that you move the bottom end
    of the stick. The forward/backward dimension is pretty obvious; the
    side-to-side bit is the tricky part. People who are learning to idle
    have a tendency to just rock back and forth, and topple over sideways
    within a few seconds. To keep the wheel under you while idling, you need
    to make the same directional corrections that you have to make while
    riding forwards (and backwards); you're just doing it over very short
    distances in alternate directions. You also need to be in control of the
    repeated reversals of the wheel rotation. I think it does help to start
    with the single-idle thing, what Rob referred to above as "ride half
    pedal backwards then forwards again." Being able to ride backwards at
    least a little will also help. If you can ride forwards, reverse
    direction for a few revolutions and then go forward again, you're
    halfway there; you just need to make fewer and fewer revolutions in each
    direction until you are down to half-revolutions.

    I was a bit odd in that idling came rather easily to me for some reason.
    I could idle pretty comfortably before I was able to freemount with any
    consistency; this is probably why the rollback mount is still the only
    one that I can do every time.

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  3. weeble said:

    *Steering control is the most important thing, because you can't do
    much of anything else until you have good control over where the wheel
    is going. Wide turns are done by leaning in the direction you want to
    go. Sharp twists are done by using the inertia of your upper body to
    twist the wheel underneath you with your hips and legs. Many turns are
    combinations of the two. That's about all that can be explained in
    words; it's all reflexes, just like walking. As with everything else
    in unicycling, the only way to learn it is to do it over and over and
    over until your body figures out what it needs to do to stay on the
    thing. The mind is a hindrance; turn it off.

    Don't focus too much on idling until you learn how to steer pretty
    well, especially with the inertial body-twist type of steering,
    because you are actually steering constantly as you idle. Balance a
    long stick on your finger, and see how in order for the stick to
    remain upright, the bottom end has to move around more than the top
    end does, in all directions. As the stick starts to tip, your finger
    has to go beyond the balance point in the same direction in order to
    correct the imbalance and keep the top end more or less stationary.
    You have to move your uni wheel around underneath you in the same way
    that you move the bottom end of the stick. The forward/backward
    dimension is pretty obvious; the side-to-side bit is the tricky part.
    People who are learning to idle have a tendency to just rock back and
    forth, and topple over sideways within a few seconds. To keep the
    wheel under you while idling, you need to make the same directional
    corrections that you have to make while riding forwards (and
    backwards); you're just doing it over very short distances in
    alternate directions. You also need to be in control of the repeated
    reversals of the wheel rotation. I think it does help to start with
    the single-idle thing, what Rob referred to above as "ride half pedal
    backwards then forwards again." Being able to ride backwards at least
    a little will also help. If you can ride forwards, reverse direction
    for a few revolutions and then go forward again, you're halfway there;
    you just need to make fewer and fewer revolutions in each direction
    until you are down to half-revolutions.

    I was a bit odd in that idling came rather easily to me for some
    reason. I could idle pretty comfortably before I was able to freemount
    with any consistency; this is probably why the rollback mount is still
    the only one that I can do every time. *


    Wow! Thx for the help! That helped a lot!! 😉

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  4. Klown said:

    *Wow! Thx for the help! That helped a lot!! 😉 *

    *weeble's* a great teacher. He taught both my kids to ride and more
    other people than I can count.

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  5. MUNIFREAK, i have serious doubts that you can idle at all. thats my
    word.

    jon

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  6. Weeble,

    That's a great way of explaining those skills, do you mind if we quote
    you for www.unicycle.2ya.com?

    Cheers,
    Andrew

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  7. Jethro said:

    *weeble's* a great teacher. He taught both my kids to ride and more
    other people than I can count.

    Be sure you're not mistaking me for someone else, heh... The TCUC runs
    classes here which have unleashed numberless hordes of unicyclists upon
    the world. I've helped out a bit over the last couple of years, but
    quite a few more experienced people have been doing that for a lot
    longer than I have.

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  8. When your turning drop your inside shoulder and lean into it a bit, keep
    your weight forward and look to where you wanna go.

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  9. Just one question....do you think skipping dinner and unicycling 'till
    9:30 PM is healthy? 🙂

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  10. jc_dunn said:

    *When your turning drop your inside shoulder and lean into it a bit,
    keep your weight forward and look to where you wanna go. *

    For some reason I have always been able to do the leaning turn to the
    left but have to do the horrible "scrunchy tyre" thing to turn right.
    Recently I have been really concentrating on making my right turns
    smoother, and find that if I lean my -hips- (and therefore the uni) in
    to the turn but my upper body away from the turn it works!

    (Actually, it may be that my upper body is simply staying where it was
    rather than leaning away from the turn)

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  11. weeble said:

    Be sure you're not mistaking me for someone else, heh...

    I'm not.

    Quoted message said:

    I've helped out a bit over the last couple of years, but quite a few
    more experienced people have been doing that for a lot longer than I
    have.

    You know this already, but being experienced at unicycling and being
    good at teaching it are not necessarily related. My second son, who was
    6 at the time, started out learning from people who were more
    experienced than you. But he showed relatively little interest in
    learning until you patiently showed him how to do it and patiently
    walked him around the gym for quite a while until he was ready to take
    off on his own.

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  12. actualy i can idle. it was on of the first things i learned, but now
    that i have ben uniing for a couple years i found that its not too
    important...thats what i'm trying to say.🙂

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  13. MUNIFREAK said:

    *actualy i can idle. it was on of the first things i learned, but now
    that i have ben uniing for a couple years i found that its not too
    important...thats what i'm trying to say.🙂 *


    Well, this is what i do....(accually i can idle, but very horribly) me
    and my friend go downtown and wait in lines on our Uni's and ppl take
    pictures and do things that tourists do, so, i just wanted tips for
    getting better o.O

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  14. andrew_carter said:

    *Weeble,

    That's a great way of explaining those skills, do you mind if we quote
    you for www.unicycle.2ya.com?

    Cheers,
    Andrew *

    Thanks, and go ahead if you want to, though after checking out your site
    (nice!) I think your video says it all, probably more effectively.

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  15. Cheers.

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  16. some things take more than 2 hours to learn... practice dude... you know
    what it looks like... now emulate.

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