I was just reading how viagra possibly increases endurace in aerobic based sports. Does any one have any experience with this. Would using viagra benefit women endurance atheletes.
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LOL! Considering the ethical and intellectual "roasting" I've taken WRT using over-the-counter Ibuprofen, I highly doubt anyone will admit to using "the little blue pill" as a PED...😄 Nonetheless, the anecdotal evidence makes sense - increased blood flow is increased oxygen flow is increased power production, regardless if you're man or a woman...
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I heard an interview the other day with some scientist, the bloke that invented the test for HGH, who was discussing this very issue. He reckons it should be placed on the banned list. They have no idea how widespread use is because they don't test for it, however he claims 'anecdotally' it's use is widespread
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How do you sit on the saddle properly?
Also, it'd be pretty easy to tell who was using Viagra on the podium - hahaha.
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Great, so should we also start using Astrolube as chamois cream?
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cyclingnews.com this morning... WADA is considering putting it on the banned list
Viagra on the doping list?
Will the chaperones have to check for Viagra soon?
Photo ©: Bjorn HaakeThe World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) is currently examining whether or not the potency pill Viagra has a performance-enhancing effect in sports. The medication, which was initially developed for special heart diseases and is now mainly used to alleviate erection problems, could then be included in the list of forbidden substances.
"There have been statements to suggest that [Viagra] is performance-enhancing," said WADA president John Fahey to the press after a Foundation Board meeting on November 23. "That is being evaluated. Before any decision to put it on the prohibited list, there has to be a rigorous examination that allows the Committee to make a recommendation. No decision has been made."
The WADA president added that there was "no likelihood that there will be either a positive or a negative decision when examination is ultimately concluded."
The result of the study is expected in February 2009. The drug could be banned from use in high-level sports in September 2009.
http://www.cyclingforums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=3869261
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doctorSpoc said:
cyclingnews.com this morning... WADA is considering putting it on the banned list
Viagra on the doping list?
Will the chaperones have to check for Viagra soon?
Photo ©: Bjorn HaakeThe World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) is currently examining whether or not the potency pill Viagra has a performance-enhancing effect in sports. The medication, which was initially developed for special heart diseases and is now mainly used to alleviate erection problems, could then be included in the list of forbidden substances.
"There have been statements to suggest that [Viagra] is performance-enhancing," said WADA president John Fahey to the press after a Foundation Board meeting on November 23. "That is being evaluated. Before any decision to put it on the prohibited list, there has to be a rigorous examination that allows the Committee to make a recommendation. No decision has been made."
The WADA president added that there was "no likelihood that there will be either a positive or a negative decision when examination is ultimately concluded."
The result of the study is expected in February 2009. The drug could be banned from use in high-level sports in September 2009.
http://www.cyclingforums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=3869261
I'm sure some riders will appeal on the basis of there being a denial of their conjugal rights!
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limerickman said:
I'm sure some riders will appeal on the basis of there being a denial of their conjugal rights!
all joking aside... if you really did have disfunction it would be bad. it really is a human rights issue and could see some lawyers having a field day with this one.
if it does actually get banned i can see it being like asthma medicine... where huge amounts of rides (some of the best endurance athletes in the world) are also sufferers of asthma and need TUEs (yeah right 🙄 ).. suddenly huge amount of riders will have erectile disfunction and will need TUEs for viagra as well...
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Throws a whole new meaning on trying to get ones leg over!
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limerickman said:
Throws a whole new meaning on trying to get ones leg over!
can you imagine the podium photos :eek:? or just getting up there on the podium.. sorry, excuse me, sorry, pardon me, make a hole, coming through, beg pardon... those poor podium girls!
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I've been using it. I was skeptical at first but what I've found is I've made significant gains in endurance. I can go longer, harder and deeper than before. I used to struggle to get up for a long session but now it's no problem.
Oh yeah, and the benefits on the bike are pretty solid too, although taking too much can make you a bit chubby which hurts when climbing (on)! 😄
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LT Intolerant said:
I've been using it. I was skeptical at first but what I've found is I've made significant gains in endurance. I can go longer, harder and deeper than before. I used to struggle to get up for a long session but now it's no problem.
Oh yeah, and the benefits on the bike are pretty solid too, although taking too much can make you a bit chubby which hurts when climbing (on)! 😄
very good!
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In honor of you Limerickman...
I once knew a rider using Viagra
Who dominated races in Niagara
He couldn't be beat
Though uncomfortable on his seat
But finally quit racing 'cuz of podagra
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I am glad that it is on the banned list as it would have made for some stiff competition besides some of the riders that may not have been up for a race would only get taller if they took it.
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But what if the race lasted over four hours?
You know, I'm getting close to thinking that the only "solution" to the doping problem in sports is just to allow anything. The "War on Drugs" hasn't worked in society, and it's never going to work in sports. Think about it: no more drug testing, no more arrests, no more court cases, no more individuals and teams being suspended, no more suspicion about athletes who haven't been caught, etc. If you're willing to take a chance with your life and health, go for it.
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Pendejo said:
But what if the race lasted over four hours?
You know, I'm getting close to thinking that the only "solution" to the doping problem in sports is just to allow anything. The "War on Drugs" hasn't worked in society, and it's never going to work in sports. Think about it: no more drug testing, no more arrests, no more court cases, no more individuals and teams being suspended, no more suspicion about athletes who haven't been caught, etc. If you're willing to take a chance with your life and health, go for it.
Young children watching athletes die on the side of the road during events. Brilliant.
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Geoff Vadar said:
Young children watching athletes die on the side of the road during events. Brilliant.
That's just silly. There are many good arguments to be made in favor of continued drug testing, but that's not one of them. Doping has been rampant in professional cycling forever, as it has in many other sports (football, weightlifting, etc.) but athletes dying during competition is extremely rare. They usually save that for lonely hotel rooms, or for a few years after retirement.
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Pendejo said:
That's just silly. There are many good arguments to be made in favor of continued drug testing, but that's not one of them. Doping has been rampant in professional cycling forever, as it has in many other sports (football, weightlifting, etc.) but athletes dying during competition is extremely rare. They usually save that for lonely hotel rooms, or for a few years after retirement.
Look dont blame me for the fact you are mentally retarded. Blame your mother.
Open slather on any and all drugs will lead to massive substance abuse by desperate individuals and you would see systemic and diabolical health results before, during and after professional events. The culture would immediately filter down into the amateur scene and young 14/15yo kids would be privy to various assorted degrees of substance abuse. It would in essence undermine broader social values and destroy countless lives that would otherwise have been untouched.
It would be a cluster [censored] of epic proportions and for you not to be able to garner the requisite brains cells to foresee such an obviously reality suggests I need not carry on further discussion with such a [censored] as yourself.
The end.
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Geoff Vadar said:
Look dont blame me for the fact you are mentally retarded. Blame your mother.
Open slather on any and all drugs will lead to massive substance abuse by desperate individuals and you would see systemic and diabolical health results before, during and after professional events. The culture would immediately filter down into the amateur scene and young 14/15yo kids would be privy to various assorted degrees of substance abuse. It would in essence undermine broader social values and destroy countless lives that would otherwise have been untouched.
It would be a cluster [censored] of epic proportions and for you not to be able to garner the requisite brains cells to foresee such an obviously reality suggests I need not carry on further discussion with such a [censored] as yourself.
The end.
You win. I see now what abuse of drugs can do to a person, and it is definitely tragic.
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Pendejo said:
You know, I'm getting close to thinking that the only "solution" to the doping problem in sports is just to allow anything. The "War on Drugs" hasn't worked in society, and it's never going to work in sports. Think about it: no more drug testing, no more arrests, no more court cases, no more individuals and teams being suspended, no more suspicion about athletes who haven't been caught, etc. If you're willing to take a chance with your life and health, go for it.
"Dropped on your head as a child you were" Yoda.I think Hincapie was juicing in Vitamin V - didn't he end up hooking up with one of the podium girls after a 6 hour stage?
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