Any good wheel builders here?

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I need some good quality race-ready wheels made. Anyone have any good recommendations? Thank
you David

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Cheers,

Scott..

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"Impros" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I need some good quality race-ready wheels made. Anyone have any good recommendations? Thank
you David

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Cheers,

Scott..

He only asked for 'good'. ;^)

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recommendations? Thank you David

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Cheers,

Scott.. >><BR><BR>

many thanks-

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impros-<< I need some good quality race-ready wheels made. Anyone have any good

recommendations? >><BR><BR>

As was mentioned, we build a lot of wheels designed for the rider and their needs. Give me a call,
there Mon-Tues and Friday but either Sean and Jim can also help ya.

BUT we deal with conventional wheels, built well. We don't do things like radial or mixed or
goofy lacings.

We rec. Campagnolo and shimano hubs, Mavic, Torelli, Velocity and Ritchey rims, DT spokes. Clincher
or tubular wheelsets.

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He only asked for 'good'. ;^)

We have to be careful! Peter might end up having to buy a whole new closet of bigger hats!! :-)
Mustn't have that!

Cheers,

Scott..

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"Impros" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I need some good quality race-ready wheels made. Anyone have any good recommendations? Thank
you David

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Lest this turn into a love-fest for peter it should be pointed out that there are a number of other
quality wheel builders who frequent this newsgroup. Sheldon Brown, for example.

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A good friend of mine who habitually broke spokes while fully loaded touring is really happy with
his Sheldon built, Phil hubbed, 48-spoke rear. In August he completed a two week tour of the
Colorado Rockies without a failure. It was his first extended tour on the new wheel, and his first
without a spoke failure.

Also, while I can't put a person's name with the product, everyone I know who has purchased wheels
from Colorado Cyclist has been a happy customer; including me.

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Thank you very much for the recommendations guys. I'll be contacting these fellas soon. David

Impros said:

I need some good quality race-ready wheels made. Anyone have any good recommendations? Thank
you David

(Qui si parla Campagnolo) said:

BUT we deal with conventional wheels, built well. We don't do things like radial or mixed or goofy
lacings.

If you are not including radial or mixed lacings, what else constitutes "goofy"? Crow's foot?
ShelBroCo POWerwheels? There's not all that much to choose from, really.

Chalo Colina

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(Qui si parla Campagnolo) said:

BUT we deal with conventional wheels, built well. We don't do things like radial or mixed or
goofy lacings.

If you are not including radial or mixed lacings, what else constitutes "goofy"? Crow's foot?
ShelBroCo POWerwheels? There's not all that much to choose from, really.

I'd like a 1X rear wheel please!

Crossed lacing with all spoke heads facing the same way might be another.

--Paul

Chalo said:

If you are not including radial or mixed lacings, what else constitutes "goofy"? Crow's foot?
ShelBroCo POWerwheels? There's not all that much to choose from, really.

My latest creation qualifies. I built up a 32 spoke 559 wheel for my Bianchi B.a.S.S. fixed-gear
MTB, using a Shimano Nexus generator hub (dynamo for our friends east of the Atlantic.)

I built it "4 leading/4 trailing" i.e., on each flange, there are 4 consecutive leading spokes, then
4 consecutive trailing spokes. It's a really wild looking thing. I've seen this done in 3s on 36
spoke wheels, but as far as I know this wheel is unique. Uses cross-4 length spokes, so the angle at
the hub is a bit obtuse...

I haven't found time to take any good photos, but I've put a couple of quick and dirty ones at:

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If you are not including radial or mixed lacings, what else constitutes "goofy"? Crow's foot?
ShelBroCo POWerwheels? There's not all that much to choose from, really.

I'd like a 1X rear wheel please!

I can't say it's an everyday request, but I do several of these every year. It's not an exotic
pattern (in fact, it's breathtakingly ordinary) if the hub has 16°.

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Sheldon Brown said:

My latest creation qualifies. I built up a 32 spoke 559 wheel for my Bianchi B.a.S.S. fixed-gear
MTB, using a Shimano Nexus generator hub (dynamo for our friends east of the Atlantic.)

I built it "4 leading/4 trailing" i.e., on each flange, there are 4 consecutive leading spokes,
then 4 consecutive trailing spokes. It's a really wild looking thing. I've seen this done in 3s on
36 spoke wheels, but as far as I know this wheel is unique. Uses cross-4 length spokes, so the
angle at the hub is a bit obtuse...

That is the most heathen looking wheel I've ever seen ;-)

--On Friday said:

Chalo said:

If you are not including radial or mixed lacings, what else constitutes "goofy"? Crow's foot?
ShelBroCo POWerwheels? There's not all that much to choose from, really.

My latest creation qualifies. I built up a 32 spoke 559 wheel for my Bianchi B.a.S.S. fixed-gear
MTB, using a Shimano Nexus generator hub (dynamo for our friends east of the Atlantic.)

I built it "4 leading/4 trailing" i.e., on each flange, there are 4 consecutive leading spokes,
then 4 consecutive trailing spokes. It's a really wild looking thing. I've seen this done in 3s on
36 spoke wheels, but as far as I know this wheel is unique. Uses cross-4 length spokes, so the
angle at the hub is a bit obtuse...

I haven't found time to take any good photos, but I've put a couple of quick and dirty ones at:

sheldonbrown.org4 leading 4 trailing01.jpgOpen ↗

sheldonbrown.org4 leading 4 trailing02.jpgOpen ↗

Sheldon "Never Claimed To Be Sane" Brown

ACK! looks dangerous.

Mike Mechanical Engineering 2006, Carnegie Mellon University Remove nospam to reply.

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I built it "4 leading/4 trailing" i.e., on each flange, there are 4 consecutive leading spokes,
then 4 consecutive trailing spokes. It's a really wild looking thing. I've seen this done in 3s
on 36 spoke wheels, but as far as I know this wheel is unique. Uses cross-4 length spokes, so
the angle at the hub is a bit obtuse...

I haven't found time to take any good photos, but I've put a couple of quick and dirty ones at:

sheldonbrown.org4 leading 4 trailing01.jpgOpen ↗

sheldonbrown.org4 leading 4 trailing02.jpgOpen ↗

Sheldon "Never Claimed To Be Sane" Brown

ACK! looks dangerous.

Mike Mechanical Engineering 2006, Carnegie Mellon University

Why do you think it looks dangerous? Please elaborate, unless you are just joking. Use some real
mechanical engineering terms

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Ted Bennett Portland OR

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I built it "4 leading/4 trailing" i.e., on each flange, there are 4 consecutive leading spokes,
then 4 consecutive trailing spokes. It's a really wild looking thing. I've seen this done in 3s on
36 spoke wheels, but as far as I know this wheel is unique. Uses cross-4 length spokes, so the
angle at the hub is a bit obtuse...

I haven't found time to take any good photos, but I've put a couple of quick and dirty ones at:

sheldonbrown.org4 leading 4 trailing01.jpgOpen ↗

sheldonbrown.org4 leading 4 trailing02.jpgOpen ↗

Well, if you ever get out of the bike biz, you can always go work for...(wait for it)...THE GAP!

Bill "never claimed to make sense" S.

Sheldon Brown said:

My latest creation qualifies. I built up a 32 spoke 559 wheel for my Bianchi B.a.S.S. fixed-gear
MTB, using a Shimano Nexus generator hub (dynamo for our friends east of the Atlantic.)

I built it "4 leading/4 trailing" i.e., on each flange, there are 4 consecutive leading spokes,
then 4 consecutive trailing spokes. It's a really wild looking thing. I've seen this done in 3s on
36 spoke wheels, but as far as I know this wheel is unique. Uses cross-4 length spokes, so the
angle at the hub is a bit obtuse...

I did the front for my fixie (36h) '3 leading/3 trailing', but on small flange its kind of
underwhelming.

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Andy Morris

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Chalo said:

If you are not including radial or mixed lacings, what else constitutes "goofy"? Crow's foot?
ShelBroCo POWerwheels? There's not all that much to choose from, really.

My latest creation qualifies. I built up a 32 spoke 559 wheel for my Bianchi B.a.S.S. fixed-gear
MTB, using a Shimano Nexus generator hub (dynamo for our friends east of the Atlantic.)

I built it "4 leading/4 trailing" i.e., on each flange, there are 4 consecutive leading spokes,
then 4 consecutive trailing spokes. It's a really wild looking thing. I've seen this done in 3s on
36 spoke wheels, but as far as I know this wheel is unique. Uses cross-4 length spokes, so the
angle at the hub is a bit obtuse...

I haven't found time to take any good photos, but I've put a couple of quick and dirty ones at:

sheldonbrown.org4 leading 4 trailing01.jpgOpen ↗

sheldonbrown.org4 leading 4 trailing02.jpgOpen ↗

Sheldon "Never Claimed To Be Sane" Brown

Dear Sheldon,

I looked in "Part IV" of "The Bicycle Wheel," but I don't see your lacing pattern listed in Jobst's
table comparing sonic efficiencies.

Please tell me what kind of noise your wheel makes when its spokes strike a playing card (Bicycle
Brand, of course) taped to the frame?

Carl Fogel

Sheldon Brown said:

I built up a 32 spoke 559 wheel for my Bianchi B.a.S.S. fixed-gear MTB, using a Shimano Nexus
generator hub (dynamo for our friends east of the Atlantic.)

I built it "4 leading/4 trailing" i.e., on each flange, there are 4 consecutive leading spokes,
then 4 consecutive trailing spokes. It's a really wild looking thing. I've seen this done in 3s on
36 spoke wheels, but as far as I know this wheel is unique.

sheldonbrown.org4 leading 4 trailing01.jpgOpen ↗

sheldonbrown.org4 leading 4 trailing02.jpgOpen ↗

That's a weird-looking wheel. I had considered building 3 leading/3 trailing wheels before, but
hesitated because I could not determine that they would be comparably strong to wheels laced
alternating.

However, I had Velocity make me a special run of 72 hole Deep-V rims, and one of my buddies used
them to build a 3 leading/3 trailing wheelset. Each wheel had six, uh, "clusters" of spokes like
yours has two. They used "ordinary" cross-six length spokes.

Chalo Colina

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Originally posted by Impros
I need some good quality race-ready wheels made. Anyone have any good recommendations?
Thank you David

Sorry to jizz on everyone's parade, but there is too much hoot passed around about wheels and "quality" wheels and oooooh, such and such is a master wheelbuilder that not only prestresses the spokes, but also uses loctite and has a special touch, and ages spokes in a crogenic freezer, etc, etc.

Go buy a trueing stand, learn to build a couple. Not that hard. Its just a wheel. It goes round. Paying more for nothing is like throwing money away.