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  1. I've recently acquired a Puch cycle, looking similar to (but not the
    same as) this: <http://static.flickr.com/34/66273384_c001edbf51_o.jpg>.
    Mine has centre-pull brakes.

    Question 1: how do you pronounce "Puch". Is it like Puck, or Pook (as
    in Look), or something else?

    Question 2: are these machines any good? Worth keeping, or sending to
    the great velodrome in the sky (uh, I mean, hiding at the back of the
    garage so no one else knows I've still got it)?

    Thanks,

    PhilD

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  2. PhilD said:

    I've recently acquired a Puch cycle, looking similar to (but not the
    same as) this: <http://static.flickr.com/34/66273384_c001edbf51_o.jpg>.
    Mine has centre-pull brakes.

    Question 1: how do you pronounce "Puch". Is it like Puck, or Pook (as
    in Look), or something else?

    Dunno for sure, we always used to call then "pook". Back in my early
    days of ill-informed lusting after bikes (mid 70s) they were something
    of the "other brand" aside from Raleigh in the mass market, and sold at
    Halfords alongside their own range.

    Quoted message said:

    Question 2: are these machines any good? Worth keeping, or sending to
    the great velodrome in the sky (uh, I mean, hiding at the back of the
    garage so no one else knows I've still got it)?

    They were not too dissimilar from the Raleighs of the day. On the one
    hand that's not necessarily a huge recommendation but on the other there
    was quite a range available and yours isn't necessarily at the bottom,
    and having been passed by a near-neighbour on his fairly vintage Raleigh
    Arena as I walked in this morning is a reminder that it's probably fine
    as a hack bike, especially if you've got alloy wheels for it.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  3. Peter Clinch said:
    PhilD said:

    I've recently acquired a Puch cycle, looking similar to (but not the
    same as) this: <http://static.flickr.com/34/66273384_c001edbf51_o.jpg>.
    Mine has centre-pull brakes.

    Question 1: how do you pronounce "Puch". Is it like Puck, or Pook (as
    in Look), or something else?

    Dunno for sure, we always used to call then "pook".

    I'd always assumed the ch was as in loch, so more like poosh.

    ...d

  4. PhilD said:

    I've recently acquired a Puch cycle, looking similar to (but not the
    same as) this: <http://static.flickr.com/34/66273384_c001edbf51_o.jpg>.
    Mine has centre-pull brakes.

    Question 1: how do you pronounce "Puch". Is it like Puck, or Pook (as
    in Look), or something else?

    ISTR a lot of these around in the 70s but not of high quality. The
    centre-pulls were also popular on cheaper bikes at that time. I always
    pronounced it as 'pyoosh' but could be wrong.

    Quoted message said:

    Question 2: are these machines any good? Worth keeping, or sending to
    the great velodrome in the sky (uh, I mean, hiding at the back of the
    garage so no one else knows I've still got it)?

    It certainly wasn't a renouned marque. On old frames I always look at the
    'ends' first. If they are substantial, such as Campag the bike may be
    worth keeping. If they are just flat steel plates without a gear hanger
    then perhaps not.
    You coud always convert it into a wheel jig rather than leave it to gather
    dust.

    As always there is some info here:
    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/vrbn-a-f.html#austro-daimler

    John B

  5. David Martin said:

    I'd always assumed the ch was as in loch, so more like poosh.

    Thobut coming from SE England I thought at the time that "loch" was
    pronounced the same as "lock"...

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,
    David Martin <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:


    Peter Clinch said:
    PhilD said:

    I've recently acquired a Puch cycle, looking similar to (but not the
    same as) this: <http://static.flickr.com/34/66273384_c001edbf51_o.jpg>.
    Mine has centre-pull brakes.

    Question 1: how do you pronounce "Puch". Is it like Puck, or Pook (as
    in Look), or something else?

    Dunno for sure, we always used to call then "pook".

    I'd always assumed the ch was as in loch, so more like poosh.

    Losh Nessh monshter?

    --
    congokid
    Eating out in London? Read my tips...
    http://congokid.com

  7. In article <[email hidden]>

    PhilD said:

    I've recently acquired a Puch cycle, looking similar to (but not the
    same as) this: <http://static.flickr.com/34/66273384_c001edbf51_o.jpg>.
    Mine has centre-pull brakes.

    Question 1: how do you pronounce "Puch". Is it like Puck, or Pook (as
    in Look), or something else?

    poosh (long 'oo' as in poo)
    (or puke if you're fed up with it)

    Quoted message said:


    Question 2: are these machines any good? Worth keeping, or sending to
    the great velodrome in the sky (uh, I mean, hiding at the back of the
    garage so no one else knows I've still got it)?


    More or less the same as a Peugeot, IIRC - we used to see mostly low-end
    machines and very few high-end ones, I think that was down to the UK
    distributor rather than a reflection on the range in Europe and the US.

  8. Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>

    PhilD said:

    I've recently acquired a Puch cycle, looking similar to (but not the
    same as) this:
    <http://static.flickr.com/34/66273384_c001edbf51_o.jpg>. Mine has
    centre-pull brakes.

    Question 1: how do you pronounce "Puch". Is it like Puck, or Pook
    (as in Look), or something else?

    poosh (long 'oo' as in poo)
    (or puke if you're fed up with it)

    Rhymes with book aparently. See official advert on
    http://www.mopedarmy.com/forums/discuss/read.php?f=1&i=199164&t=199164&v=f

    Being half Scottish I had alway assumed the "ch" was pronounced like the
    scottish word "loch".

    Tim

  9. Tim Downie said:


    Rhymes with book aparently. See official advert on
    http://www.mopedarmy.com/forums/discuss/read.php?f=1&i=199164&t=199164&v=f

    So for 30 odd years I'vebeen wrong :-(

    Shut up at the back

    John B

  10. PhilD said:

    I've recently acquired a Puch cycle, looking similar to (but not the
    same as) this: <http://static.flickr.com/34/66273384_c001edbf51_o.jpg>.
    Mine has centre-pull brakes.

    Question 1: how do you pronounce "Puch". Is it like Puck, or Pook (as
    in Look), or something else?


    But pook is pronounced lke book or fool or roof that is a long oo sound
    not uh. So if I was to pronounce pook as in look it would sound the
    same as puck as in luck. I pronounce it puck or poosh and not really
    sure myself !!!!. I remember them as pretty ordinary bikes but I may
    have been wrong.

  11. "MSeries" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    But pook is pronounced lke book or fool or roof that is a long oo sound
    not uh.

    book with a long oo sound, but not look? Weirdo :-)

    cheers,
    clive

  12. Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>

    PhilD said:

    I've recently acquired a Puch cycle, looking similar to (but not the
    same as) this: <http://static.flickr.com/34/66273384_c001edbf51_o.jpg>.
    Mine has centre-pull brakes.

    Question 1: how do you pronounce "Puch". Is it like Puck, or Pook (as
    in Look), or something else?

    poosh (long 'oo' as in poo)
    (or puke if you're fed up with it)

    Is that because you end up pooshing it?

    --
    Don Whybrow

    Sequi Bonum Non Time

    Discordianism: Where reality is a figment of your imagination

  13. On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 12:25:08 +0100, congokid <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Question 1: how do you pronounce "Puch". Is it like Puck, or Pook (as
    > in Look), or something else?

    Dunno for sure, we always used to call then "pook".

    I'd always assumed the ch was as in loch, so more like poosh.

    Losh Nessh monshter?

    Coo! Mr Connery, can I have your autograph, please?

    Judith

  14. Clive George said:

    book with a long oo sound, but not look? Weirdo :-)

    My wife used to sound like that - she's from Leeds!

    She once told me she had visited the Roman "Baff" at "Barth"

    Julesh

  15. Peter Clinch said:
    David Martin said:

    I'd always assumed the ch was as in loch, so more like poosh.

    Thobut coming from SE England I thought at the time that "loch" was
    pronounced the same as "lock"...

    Pete.

    There's a novel by (I think) Iain Banks where the hero hears a BBC news
    reader pronouncing a middle-eastern name with the correct -ch sound and
    realising than the English had been capable of pronouncing "Loch" all
    along.

    I've also seen several language phrasebooks in my travels that indicate
    that a sound in that language should be pronounced the same as -ch in
    Loch - Probably not lot of use to some of us :-)

    Julesh

  16. In article <[email hidden]>

    Don Whybrow said:
    Rob Morley said:

    In article <[email hidden]>

    PhilD said:

    I've recently acquired a Puch cycle, looking similar to (but not the
    same as) this: <http://static.flickr.com/34/66273384_c001edbf51_o.jpg>.
    Mine has centre-pull brakes.

    Question 1: how do you pronounce "Puch". Is it like Puck, or Pook (as
    in Look), or something else?

    poosh (long 'oo' as in poo)
    (or puke if you're fed up with it)

    Is that because you end up pooshing it?


    Aye, it's a poosh bike.

  17. In article <[email hidden]>, Julesh

    () said:

    There's a novel by (I think) Iain Banks where the hero hears a BBC news
    reader pronouncing a middle-eastern name with the correct -ch sound and
    realising than the English had been capable of pronouncing "Loch" all
    along.

    'twas in "Espedair Street"

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    Ha ha, you fool! You've fallen victim to one of the classic blunders!
    The most famous is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia"

  18. In article <[email hidden]>, Dave

    Larrington () said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Julesh

    () said:

    There's a novel by (I think) Iain Banks where the hero hears a BBC news
    reader pronouncing a middle-eastern name with the correct -ch sound and
    realising than the English had been capable of pronouncing "Loch" all
    along.

    'twas in "Espedair Street"

    Actually it wasn't. It was "The Crow Road". Silly me.

    (tolchocks self on gulliver with shovel)

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    Life - loathe it or ignore it, you can't like it.

  19. Dave Larrington said:

    Actually it wasn't. It was "The Crow Road". Silly me.

    He has a rantje about it in Raw Spirit, so seems the case he has a
    /thing/ about it. A particularly good rant in RS is the "Ninja Stealth
    Hyper Bomber Extreme" caravan nomenclature one...

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  20. Rob Morley said:

    More or less the same as a Peugeot, IIRC - we used to see mostly low-end
    machines and very few high-end ones, I think that was down to the UK
    distributor rather than a reflection on the range in Europe and the US.

    Thanks Rob (and others). It looks like, if I understand correctly, I'm
    left with a dilema. On the one hand Puch [Pook] bikes aren't
    super-best-hang-on-to-it-they're-worth-a-fortune, but on the other hand
    they're not mouldy cheese either, and are quite rideable.

    I think I'll just pretend I don't notice the addition in the garage,
    and hope no one else does, either!

    PhilD

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