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  1. I am 60 with a heart condition. I like to think I am doing some good by swimming for 30 minutes 5 or
    6 days a week. I swim about 1300 yards in that time. Am I wasting my time or is it doing any good
    for my cardio-vascular fitness?

  2. A.J. said:


    I am 60 with a heart condition. I like to think I am doing some good by swimming for 30 minutes 5
    or 6 days a week. I swim about 1300 yards in that time. Am I wasting my time or is it doing any
    good for my cardio-vascular fitness?

    I think it is almost certain that you are doing good for yourself, and I recommend you keep it up
    and try to improve both time and distance. You should keep your heart doctor aprised of what you are
    doing, of course, and I also recommend joining a masters swim club. You don't have to compete on a
    masters swim club. It's all about training for fitness, and you will likely meet other perople there
    who have heart conditions.

    martin

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  3. AJ Congratulations on undertaking a fitness swimming program. I imagine you are doing this with a
    doctor's supervision? You should know that low-intensity swimming is the healthiest of all and the
    form most likely to complement other therapies that may have been recommended by your doctor. You
    didn't specify what sort of heart condition you have. Have you had a heart attack previously or do
    you have a plaque buildup. In other words is your condition reversible through exercise? If so, and
    you feel quite comfortable and non-stressed doing your 30 minute swim, then you could plan on
    gradually increasing the duration of your swimming. I'll suggest a few "focal points" for your
    swimming that will have several benefits:
    1. Help regulate your intensity by increasing the economy of your movements.
    2. Allow you to swim further before you fatigue.
    3. Make the laps more interesting so you enjoy doing more of them. It's best if the swimming doesn't
    feel like taking medicine, but is a source of satisfaction and pleasure. I'll include an excerpt
    from an article I wrote last year on using focal points in swimming. These refer to freestyle
    swimming; if you're using another style, adapt as best you can.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Swimming well is more than good mechanics. Truly gifted swimmers simply have


    a better intuitive understanding of how to move through the water. You can develop your "inner
    coach" by ignoring how far or fast you swim to focus only on doing what feels good and trying to
    make good feel better. Pick one of these focal points and swim short repeats (25 to 50 meters)
    slowly and easily, trying mainly to feel as described. Between repeats, take three to five deep,
    slow "cleansing" breaths until you feel ready to swim with ease again. To test which work best for
    you, count your strokes for 25 or 50 meters before beginning, then compare your stroke count while
    practicing these focal points.

    What: Hide Your Head Why: Good head-spine alignment is essential to all skilled movement. How: ·
    Lead with the top of your head, not your forehead. · See the bottom directly under you, and not
    much that's forward of you.

    What: Swim Downhill Why: Balance -- feeling completely supported by the water -- is the
    non-negotiable skill of efficient swimming. How: · Lean on your chest until your hips and legs feel
    light. · Rhythmically press in one armpit, then the other, while swimming freestyle.

    What: Lengthen Your Body Why: A longer body line reduces drag, allowing you to swim faster, easier.
    How: · Slip your arm into the water as if sliding it into a sleeve. · Keep extending your
    arm…slowly… until you feel your shoulder touch your jaw.

    What: Flow like Water Why: Making waves or creating turbulence takes energy, all of it supplied by
    you. How: · Pierce the water; slip through the smallest possible hole. · Drill or swim as quietly
    as possible.

    You can find more such suggestions at www.totalimmersion.net

    Swim for health and happiness, Terry Laughlin

  4. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am 60 with a heart condition. I like to think I am doing some good


    by swimming for 30 minutes 5 or 6 days a week. I swim about 1300 yards in that time. Am I wasting my
    time or is it doing any good for my cardio-vascular fitness?<<

    Well, my Dad is 89 and a lifelong swimmer. On Jan 4, he competed in the International Swimming Hall
    of Fame (ISHOF) 1 mile ocean race in Ft. Lauderdale. He had a good swim and a good time, but it took
    him nearly a half hour to find his pile of clothes on the beach afterwards on a record cold (low
    40s, very windy) morning. He developed hypothermia while walking around dripping wet in his Speedos
    and was taken to the emergency room at Broward County General Hospital.

    He had some minor EKG changes (no chest pain) and underwent a coronary angiogram. He had total,
    complete occlusion of the 4 major coronary vessels, including the one known as the "widow maker."
    Although devoted to swimming for his entire life (he swam freestyle an hour a day and three times
    after the age of 70 completed the 10 mile Huntington to Seal Beach ocean race in low 60s water, and
    is every year a USMS All American in distance free), he ate a terrible diet (never saw a donut or
    cheese omlet he didn't like). But no chest pain and still able to train at a high level (for an 89
    y.o.) despite complete occlusion of the "widow maker" and 3 other vessels.

    How did he do this? Well, he had to have developed collateral circulation (a rich capillary network
    to go around the areas of blockage). Exercise (in this case swimming) gave him these collaterals and
    saved his life.

    He subsequently underwent a 4 vessel coronary artery bypass, complicated, less than a week after the
    surgery, with an 8 unit (ONE GALLON, or an amount equivalent to the entire human blood volume)
    uppergastrointestinal bleed, owing to having been overdosed on warfarin/coumadin (a blood thinner).
    He required many blood transfusions, literally passed out once because his blood volume go so low,
    and also required a very stressful gastroscopy to cauterize the bleeding area in his stomach.

    He sailed through all of the above, which would have killed a great many men half his age. It's now
    2 months after the initial event on the beach and do you know what he's doing today?

    Back swimming, of course.

    He and his two (50-something y.o.) sons plan on swimming in the ISHOF ocean race together next
    January, 2004.

    Larry Weisenthal

    Certitude is poison; curiosity is life

  5. A.J. said:

    I am 60 with a heart condition. I like to think I am doing some good by swimming for 30 minutes 5
    or 6 days a week. I swim about 1300 yards in that time. Am I wasting my time or is it doing any
    good for my cardio-vascular fitness?

    Do you know what your pulse is during the exercise? 30 minutes at an appropriate level (1300yards in
    30 minutes sounds reasonable) should be doing great things for your fitness. The minimum gain is
    from roughtly 20 minutes. The minimum suggested frequency is 3 times a week.

    If you can go a little longer, all the better. But certainly you're doing a lot already.
    --
    Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com

  6. Larry Weisenthal said:

    He subsequently underwent a 4 vessel coronary artery bypass, complicated, less than a week after
    the surgery, with an 8 unit (ONE GALLON, or an amount equivalent to the entire human blood volume)
    uppergastrointestinal bleed, owing to having been overdosed on warfarin/coumadin (a blood
    thinner). He required many blood transfusions, literally passed out once because his blood volume
    go so low, and also required a very stressful gastroscopy to cauterize the bleeding area in his
    stomach.

    He sailed through all of the above, which would have killed a great many men half his age.

    My story, two years ago, is also a bit of testimony to the potential life-saving results of
    athletic training - in my case, training for the Ironman as well as for shorter triathlons. As a
    result of a little mishap during a minor iliac artery procedure, my distal aorta was punctured and
    I lost three quarts (six units) of blood, a lot for a 117 pound definitely old woman. A stroke or
    heart failure seemed to be the scenario of the day as my blood pressure took a huge dive and I
    twice experienced respiratory arrest. Perhaps the doctors were being generous to me rather than
    boastful of their speedy retrievals, but they told me my training deserved much of the credit. I'm
    still at it, of course.

    Ruth Kazez

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