Anquetil

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for those who can read german

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A shocking family secret divulged by Der Spiegel. A great
scoop indeed. After all, it's only 20 years ago that it
became generally known.

Benjo Maso

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for those who can read german

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A shocking family secret divulged by Der Spiegel. A great
scoop indeed. After all, it's only 20 years ago that it
became generally known.

Benjo Maso

My experience here in the US is that very few people are
aware. Perhaps more are now that WCP has the Anquetil
documentary on dvd, but it's still very few.

On 05/12/2004 06:10 AM, in article
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for those who can read german

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A shocking family secret divulged by Der Spiegel. A great
scoop indeed. After all, it's only 20 years ago that it
became generally known.

Benjo Maso

My experience here in the US is that very few people are
aware. Perhaps more are now that WCP has the Anquetil
documentary on dvd, but it's still very few.

Since I can't bear to read a babelfish translation, is this
the whole Jacques' daughter and son were his wife's
grandaughter and grandson thing?

IIRC, Anquetil's wife Janine had two children from a
previous marriage, but was unable to have any more
children ... so Anquetil made babies with his (adult) step-
daughter ...

Not technically incest, since the step-daughter was not
related by blood.

Not molestation, because she was in her 20s at the time ...

Just a little twisted, morality-wise ...

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Steven L. Sheffield said:

IIRC, Anquetil's wife Janine had two children from a
previous marriage, but was unable to have any more
children ... so Anquetil made babies with his (adult) step-
daughter ...

Yes, and then made more babies with his stepson's wife.

So your saying that Woody Allen is a major cycling fan??

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A shocking family secret divulged by Der Spiegel. A
great scoop indeed. After all, it's only 20 years ago
that it became generally known.

Benjo Maso

My experience here in the US is that very few people are
aware. Perhaps more are now that WCP has the Anquetil
documentary on dvd, but it's

still

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very few.

Since I can't bear to read a babelfish translation, is
this the whole Jacques' daughter and son were his wife's
grandaughter and grandson thing?

IIRC, Anquetil's wife Janine had two children from a
previous marriage,

but

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was unable to have any more children ... so Anquetil made
babies with his (adult) step-daughter ...

Not technically incest, since the step-daughter was not
related by blood.

Not molestation, because she was in her 20s at the
time ...

Just a little twisted, morality-wise ...

--
Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks
at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum pax est libertas
servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay
ee sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon
[for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew
double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

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On Wed, 12 May 2004 12:44:00 GMT, Steven L.

Sheffield said:

IIRC, Anquetil's wife Janine had two children from a
previous marriage,

but

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was unable to have any more children ... so Anquetil made
babies with his (adult) step-daughter ...

Yes, and then made more babies with his stepson's wife.

Don't exaggerate. I wouldn't be surprised if maître Jacques
performed the jus primae noctis in the whole:region, but he
made only one baby with his stepdaughter and one with his
stepdaughter in law.

Benjo Maso

benjo maso said:

Don't exaggerate. I wouldn't be surprised if maître
Jacques performed the jus primae noctis in the
whole:region, but he made only one baby with his
stepdaughter and one with his stepdaughter in law.

Pom's professor probably described this as the second most
common marriage pattern worldwide.

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On Wed, 12 May 2004 12:44:00 GMT, Steven L.

Sheffield said:

IIRC, Anquetil's wife Janine had two children from a
previous marriage,

but

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was unable to have any more children ... so Anquetil made
babies with his (adult) step-daughter ...

Yes, and then made more babies with his stepson's wife.

Don't exaggerate. I wouldn't be surprised if maître
Jacques performed the jus primae noctis in the
whole:region, but he made only one baby with his
stepdaughter and one with his stepdaughter in law.

Benjo Maso

There's a country music tune in there somewhere.

Steve

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There's a country music tune in there somewhere.

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There's a country music tune in there somewhere.

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I remember there was a song "I'm my own grandpa" but
I don't remember how it works...

Steve

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There's a country music tune in there somewhere.

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I'm My Own Grandpa by Buck Owens

Many, many years ago When I was twenty three, I was married
to a widow Who was pretty as can be.

This widow had a grown-up daughter Who had hair of red. My
father fell in love with her, And soon they too were wed.

This made my dad my son-in-law And really changed my life.
Now, my daughter was my mother, 'Courrse she was my
father's wife.

To complicate the matter, Even though it brought me joy, I
soon became the father Of a bouncing baby boy.

My little baby then became A brother-in-law to dad. And so
became my uncle, Though it made me very sad.

For if, if he was my uncle, Then that also made him
brother Of the widow's grown-up daughter Who, of course,
my step-mother.

Father's wife then had a son, Who kept them on the run. And
he became my grandchild, For he was my daughter's son.

My wife is now my mother's mother And it makes me blue.
Because, although she is my wife, She's my grandmother too.

Now, If my wife is my grandmother, Then I'm her grandchild.
And every time I think of it, It nearly drives me wild.

'Cause now I have become The strangest case you ever saw. As
husband of my grandmother, I am my own grandpa

Oh, I'm my own grandpa (haha) I'm my own grandpa (whew)

It not funny I know But it really is so Yeah, I'm my
own grandpa

Listen to this now I'm my own grandpa Would you believe that
(haha) I'm my own grandpa Talk about incest It sounds funny
I know But it really is so I'm my own grandpa...

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I remember there was a song "I'm my own grandpa"
but I don't remember how it works...

Steve

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I'm My Own Grandpa by Buck Owens

Many, many years ago When I was twenty three, I was
married to a widow Who was pretty as can be.

This widow had a grown-up daughter Who had hair of red. My
father fell in love with her, And soon they too were wed.

This made my dad my son-in-law And really changed my life.
Now, my daughter was my mother, 'Courrse she was my
father's wife.

To complicate the matter, Even though it brought me joy, I
soon became the father Of a bouncing baby boy.

My little baby then became A brother-in-law to dad. And so
became my uncle, Though it made me very sad.

For if, if he was my uncle, Then that also made him
brother Of the widow's grown-up daughter Who, of course,
my step-mother.

Father's wife then had a son, Who kept them on the run.
And he became my grandchild, For he was my daughter's son.

My wife is now my mother's mother And it makes me
blue. Because, although she is my wife, She's my
grandmother too.

Now, If my wife is my grandmother, Then I'm her
grandchild. And every time I think of it, It nearly drives
me wild.

'Cause now I have become The strangest case you ever saw.
As husband of my grandmother, I am my own grandpa

Oh, I'm my own grandpa (haha) I'm my own grandpa (whew)

It not funny I know But it really is so Yeah, I'm my
own grandpa

Listen to this now I'm my own grandpa Would you believe
that (haha) I'm my own grandpa Talk about incest It sounds
funny I know But it really is so I'm my own grandpa...

Thanks for this--enjoyed "Choctaw Bingo" too!

Steve