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  1. I've downloaded Anquet v06 and a chunk of 1:25000 OS mapping for my
    local area. First impressions are favourable, but with some niggles, one
    of them serious.

    The mapping itself is very clear, the elevation data is remarkably
    accurate and I do like the idea of being able to download little chunks
    of map as required.

    However, I have one real problem. I tend to think of routes, tracks and
    waypoints in the terms used by my GPS (a Geko 301). So, when I'm
    planning a walk what I usually do (in Fugawi or Gartrip) is to plot a
    track of the walk and then pop waypoints onto it at regular intervals.
    It appears that Anquet doesn't allow you to draw tracks as such, it only
    allows you to plot a track, which it very confusingly calls a 'route',
    using waypoints. This can, of course, be sent to the GPS as a track, but
    on the map the waypoints that comprise the track are all shown, which
    I don't want. All I want to appear on the map is the track and the
    numbered waypoints and I'm having great difficulty in doing this.

    I find the help file to be very poor and I'm struggling to understand
    just how Anquet handles and stores data, which is different from what
    I'm used to. This isn't covered very well in the help system either. Any
    tips would be appreciated.

    Oh, one last thing. I have a 1280 x 1024 screen with a DPI setting of
    120 and some of the boxes that Anquet opens are badly truncated (I can
    see just the ends of some buttons and have to guess which is 'OK' and
    which is 'Cancel', for example. This really ought not to happen.

    Regards, Nick.

    --
    Nick Hopton,
    Caversham, Reading, England.

  2. Nick Hopton said:

    Oh, one last thing. I have a 1280 x 1024 screen with a DPI setting of
    120 and some of the boxes that Anquet opens are badly truncated (I can
    see just the ends of some buttons and have to guess which is 'OK' and
    which is 'Cancel', for example. This really ought not to happen.

    I can't comment on Anquet, I was given a bootleg version several years
    ago, after using it for a couple of hours I deleted it because I just
    could not use it.

    The truncated text is probably a Windows 'feature' it is usualy caused
    when you have 'large fonts' set, I see you are using 120% I would
    assume the progam will be OK if you used 100%?

    I'm a software guy, that is one thing I always check for when I write
    a Windows prog.

    Ted
    http://gpssharing.com

  3. ted wrote:
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    The truncated text is probably a Windows 'feature' it is usualy caused
    when you have 'large fonts' set, I see you are using 120% I would
    assume the progam will be OK if you used 100%?


    [...]

    Thanks yes, it works properly if I set the system to 96 DPI, but then
    everything else is too small, of course. It's a real menace is this.

    --
    Nick Hopton,
    Caversham, Reading, England.

  4. Nick Hopton said:

    ted wrote:
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    The truncated text is probably a Windows 'feature' it is usualy caused
    when you have 'large fonts' set, I see you are using 120% I would
    assume the progam will be OK if you used 100%?


    [...]

    Thanks yes, it works properly if I set the system to 96 DPI, but then
    everything else is too small, of course. It's a real menace is this.


    ....can you not alter your screen resolution (right-click on desktop (XP)
    and click the settings tab > alter screen resolution to fewer pixels
    HxV. This won't affect the dpi, so everything will appear larger,
    including the windows and buttons which will be in the same proportion
    as other screen resolutions.

    --
    George

  5. In message <[email hidden]>, Nick Hopton
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    I've downloaded Anquet v06 and a chunk of 1:25000 OS mapping for my
    local area. First impressions are favourable, but with some niggles,
    one of them serious.

    I find Anquet good for everything that does not involve hanging a GPS
    onto it!

    I do screen captures of the section of the OS map I want (using
    Paintshop Pro) and import the resulting jpeg into GPS Utility, calibrate
    it and use that for entering waypoints and planning routes that I can
    upload to the GPS. I've used GPSU for years and find it fairly intuitive
    to use. It's possible that Anquet would do everything I want, but I
    really can't be bothered.

    There was some discussion back here:

    <http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.walking/browse_thread/thread/2fe
    efc4dfdfb7fe5/999458b14e0537fc?lnk=st&q=Anquet+routes&rnum=4&hl=en#999458
    b14e0537fc>

    which may help (or just confuse the issue further).

    Anquet's good for downloading tracklogs from the GPS and admiring your
    stamina after the walk.

    Regards,
    --
    Neil Pugh

  6. Nick Hopton said:

    ted wrote:

    [...]> The truncated text is probably a Windows 'feature' it is usualy caused

    Quoted message said:

    when you have 'large fonts' set, I see you are using 120% I would
    assume the progam will be OK if you used 100%?

    [...]

    Thanks yes, it works properly if I set the system to 96 DPI, but then
    everything else is too small, of course. It's a real menace is this.

    --
    Nick Hopton,
    Caversham, Reading, England.

    I assume you are a legal owner of the software? Then email their
    support desk and ask why it does not work properly.

    And as it is 'not fit for purpose' you want your money back. IMHO it
    is just sloppy programming.

    Ted

  7. Nick Hopton said:

    I've downloaded Anquet v06 and a chunk of 1:25000 OS mapping for my
    local area. First impressions are favourable, but with some niggles, one
    of them serious.

    The mapping itself is very clear, the elevation data is remarkably
    accurate and I do like the idea of being able to download little chunks
    of map as required.

    However, I have one real problem. I tend to think of routes, tracks and
    waypoints in the terms used by my GPS (a Geko 301). So, when I'm
    planning a walk what I usually do (in Fugawi or Gartrip) is to plot a
    track of the walk and then pop waypoints onto it at regular intervals.
    It appears that Anquet doesn't allow you to draw tracks as such, it only
    allows you to plot a track, which it very confusingly calls a 'route',
    using waypoints.

    In v06 you can create routes from combinations of routes. For example,
    you create a series of small routes (which are called paths pre. v06)
    then create "proper" routes by combining them.

    I'm sure a regular user of v06 could expand and explain to us both how
    best to use it, but I lost the will to live with the damn thing, which
    is why I still use the older version - it may be a bit clunky but it
    works just fine.

    Roy.

  8. Neil Pugh said:

    I've used GPSU for years and find it
    fairly intuitive to use.

    Once you're used to it I suppose (like OziExplorer). I'm still relatively
    new to it and many aspects of it are not intuitive at all IMO.

    Quoted message said:

    It's possible that Anquet would do
    everything I want, but I really can't be bothered.

    No, it can't. Not if you're used to using proper GPS software.

    Anquet is great for studying maps, checking 3D perspectives, planning and
    measuring possible routes, printing maps etc, but I wouldn't use my GPS with
    it.

    Paul
    --
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk/
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk/weblog/

  9. Paul Saunders wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Anquet is great for studying maps, checking 3D perspectives, planning and
    measuring possible routes, printing maps etc, but I wouldn't use my GPS with
    it.


    [...]

    The sting in the tail of this depresses me immensely. In the end and
    with great confusion I did manage to plot a track, put numbered
    waypoints on it, send the track and the waypoints to the GPS and print
    the map. But what an awful performance, the only way I could find to do
    this was by creating a new folder for the track and another new folder
    for the waypoints. I then highlighted the track folder and plotted the
    track, which worked. Then I highlighted the waypoint folder and started
    to drop waypoints on the track. As I was doing this I had the data view
    open so that I could see the waypoints I was creating being entered into
    the waypoint file. Fair enough, I then thought right, I'll close the
    data view and carry on creating waypoints with the map in full screen.
    Big mistake: I went on the create another thirty or so waypoints, but
    then found that these had not been placed in the waypoint file, but
    under 'unfiled map data', if you please. So I had to delete all of the
    waypoints in 'unfiled map data' and re-enter them with Data Explorer
    showing, in the correct folder. What a shambles!

    The secret of sending the data to the GPS seems to be to sent the track
    data and the waypoint data in two separate operations. I don't mind
    doing this, but it ought to be explained somewhere.

    Downloading the track I walked from the GPS to Anquet was pretty
    painless, but then I had two tracks showing on screen, the one I'd
    planned and the one I'd walked, with no way of hiding the one I'd
    planned. I actually had to delete data to do this.

    I agree with the first part of what Paul says above, but the pain of
    using this software with a GPS might incline me to agree with the second
    part of his comments.

    Of course, I still have the serious problem of pop-up boxes that get
    truncated on my screen and this, plus the above, makes me wonder whether
    or not this software could reasonably be considered as fit for purpose.

    Regards, Nick.

    --
    Nick Hopton,
    Caversham, Reading, England.

  10. On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:49:27 +0100, Nick Hopton wrote...

    Quoted message said:

    Big mistake: I went on the create another thirty or so waypoints, but
    then found that these had not been placed in the waypoint file, but
    under 'unfiled map data', if you please. So I had to delete all of the
    waypoints in 'unfiled map data' and re-enter them with Data Explorer
    showing, in the correct folder. What a shambles!

    Highlight 'Unfiled Map Data' in the folder tree, so that its waypoints
    show in the main data explorer pane. Then you can just drag and drop
    them from the data explorer pane to the folder in the tree that you
    really wanted them in. You have to do it one waypoint at a time,
    though.

    Quoted message said:

    Downloading the track I walked from the GPS to Anquet was pretty
    painless, but then I had two tracks showing on screen, the one I'd
    planned and the one I'd walked, with no way of hiding the one I'd
    planned. I actually had to delete data to do this.

    Create two databases. Drag and drop the planned route to one and the
    actual tracklog you walked to the other. Save both databases. If you
    then close the 'planned route' database its data will disappear and you
    will just see the actual track. Close the 'actual track' database and
    re-open the planned one to reverse.

    --
    Tim Jackson
    [email hidden]
    (Change '.invalid' to '.com' to reply direct)

  11. In message <[email hidden]>, Nick Hopton
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:


    Of course, I still have the serious problem of pop-up boxes that get
    truncated on my screen and this, plus the above, makes me wonder
    whether or not this software could reasonably be considered as fit for
    purpose.

    Have you tried contacting Anquet support. In my experience they do
    answer.

    However, you don't always get the answer you want!

    Regards,
    --
    Neil Pugh

  12. In message <[email hidden]>, Neil Pugh
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Sorry, me again. Did you see this on the Anquet FAQs:

    Quote

    I'm having problems with my display.
    If you are experiencing display problems, we recommend that you check
    the video/graphics card manufacturer's website to ensure you have the
    current driver installed. For help changing your video driver, consult
    the documentation that came with your video card.
    Some buttons are missing or windows are the wrong size.

    The windows layout manager does not correctly report changes in the
    windows standard font size on some PCs. Please try the following to
    solve the problem:

    (1) Make sure you have installed the latest graphics drivers for your
    computers graphics card. These are usually available from the
    manufactures website.

    (2) Adjust your screen settings.

    * Right click on your windows desktop.
    * Select properties.
    * Click the settings tab at the top.
    * Click the advanced button.
    * Click the general tab at the top.
    * Change the DPI setting to "Normal Size"
    * Click the OK buttons.

    Quote ends

    Regards,
    --
    Neil Pugh

  13. These comments are probably unhelpful and pointless, given that the
    mapping software people don't offer competitive upgrades, so far as I
    know,

    but,

    I have Memory-Map, which works fine for me and my Garmin 60CSx. I find
    the Munros and Tops that I intend to "do", then put points on them on
    the PC, sorting out the properties for an abbreviated name to send to
    the GPS, then I right click on each point in turn, and take the option
    to send to GPS. I don't connect them together into a "route" or chain or
    whatever. I just do a "Go To" for each in turn.

    Only thing that exasperates me about the latest version of Memory-Map is
    that some idiot left out the option to print multiple copies of the
    day's map (with the day's "marks" on it) on this version - I like to put
    one copy in my Ortlieb map case, and leave the other so that my wife
    won't sound too daft if/when she eventually dials 999 and asks for the
    MRT to go and look for me! Selecting the area to print is fiddly, and
    repeating it for an identical second sheet bloody near impossible!

    Richard

  14. Nick Hopton said:

    Paul Saunders wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Anquet is great for studying maps, checking 3D perspectives,
    planning and measuring possible routes, printing maps etc, but I
    wouldn't use my GPS with it.


    [...]

    The sting in the tail of this depresses me immensely.

    Quoted message said:

    I agree with the first part of what Paul says above, but the pain of
    using this software with a GPS might incline me to agree with the
    second part of his comments.

    Of course, I still have the serious problem of pop-up boxes that get
    truncated on my screen and this, plus the above, makes me wonder
    whether or not this software could reasonably be considered as fit
    for purpose.

    It might interest you to know that the very first version of Anquet wasn't
    designed to be used with a GPS at all. I just bought it for the mapping,
    with no expectation of GPS support. That's the reason for the confusing use
    of the words route and path, they were never intented to correspond to the
    GPS meanings.

    Then of course, in a later patch, they added GPS support, but since it was
    bolted on later it doesn't do the job as well as software which is designed
    for GPS use from the ground up.

    I recommend OziExplorer and GPS Utility for "proper" GPS use.

    Paul
    --
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk/
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk/weblog/

  15. Nick Hopton said:

    I've downloaded Anquet v06 and a chunk of 1:25000 OS mapping for my
    local area. First impressions are favourable, but with some niggles, one
    of them serious.

    The mapping itself is very clear, the elevation data is remarkably
    accurate and I do like the idea of being able to download little chunks
    of map as required.

    However, I have one real problem. I tend to think of routes, tracks and
    waypoints in the terms used by my GPS (a Geko 301). So, when I'm
    planning a walk what I usually do (in Fugawi or Gartrip) is to plot a
    track of the walk and then pop waypoints onto it at regular intervals.
    It appears that Anquet doesn't allow you to draw tracks as such, it only
    allows you to plot a track, which it very confusingly calls a 'route',
    using waypoints. This can, of course, be sent to the GPS as a track, but
    on the map the waypoints that comprise the track are all shown, which I
    don't want. All I want to appear on the map is the track and the
    numbered waypoints and I'm having great difficulty in doing this.

    I find the help file to be very poor and I'm struggling to understand
    just how Anquet handles and stores data, which is different from what
    I'm used to. This isn't covered very well in the help system either. Any
    tips would be appreciated.

    Oh, one last thing. I have a 1280 x 1024 screen with a DPI setting of
    120 and some of the boxes that Anquet opens are badly truncated (I can
    see just the ends of some buttons and have to guess which is 'OK' and
    which is 'Cancel', for example. This really ought not to happen.

    Regards, Nick.

    Well, you've confused me :-)

    With my Geko 301, the standard practice is to follow a Route. A Route is
    made up of a number of waypoints.
    A Track is something which the GPS creates as you walk/cycle.

    In Anquet, I simply "Start Route", it adds waypoints at every mouse
    click. I then download the whole route to the Geko. This then holds all
    the waypoints and the route details. If I want some more (off-route)
    waypoints, I simply create these in another folder and download that
    folder full of waypoints.

    In short, Anquest is working exactly the way your Geko is.

    It IS possible to download a route "as a track" and use the Geko to
    follow this. This has the advantage of having more "waypoints" (actually
    trackpoints) - but these are not listed as such in the Geko Waypoints list.

    As for the storing and handling of data, I've created a number of
    databases for different purposes - planned walks, completed walks,
    geocaches etc. Within these databases, I may have a number of folders,
    perhaps with some geographical grouping. The advantage of the multiple
    database approach is that each can be opened/ closed as required - with
    as many open as your screen can cope with! Closing down any you don't
    want at that time unclutters the screen.

    Note that the earlier version of Anquet used the term "path" for a
    section of a route - each route could be made from a number of "paths".
    This nomenclature was dropped with V06 as GPS devices did not recognise
    this construct. However, it is still possible to create "sub-routes"
    within each route, join them, copy them etc. So, a classic use for me
    might be a sub-route from the car park to a bridge, then another for a
    horse-shoe walk, then re-use the first from the bridge to the car park
    by copying it and using the Reverse option. Saves going over the same
    bit twice. These sub-soutes can also be copied into other routes which
    is useful when re-visiting somewhere and going over some old ground.

    Hope you find this useful

    druidh

  16. I didn't know that Anquet wasn't designed from the outset to work with
    GPSs and that the GPS handling procedures were bolted on afterwards.
    This must explain many of the problems.

    So, from our discussions I conclude that for me, at least, the main
    problem with the system is that it is not possible to plot directly a
    *track* on the map, save it and send it to the GPS. It is, of course,
    possible to plot a *route* on the map using lots of waypoints and send
    it to the GPS as a track, but this is a very unsatisfactory way of doing
    things, there needs to be a clear distinction kept between *routes* and
    *tracks*. My GPS and I suppose most GPSs can only store a limited number
    of waypoints, but lots of track points, which is why the distinction is
    important.

    There are still a few problems, one ought, for example, to be able to
    right-click on a folder and then select 'hide' from the menu, to stop
    its data from being displayed on the map. The problem of the truncated
    boxes is a serious one and needs fixing urgently, I have hundreds of
    programs on this computer and this is the *only* one that behaves in
    this way.

    I'll drop Anquet a line about all this and let you know what they have
    to say (assuming that they give me permission to do this).

    Regards, Nick.

    --
    Nick Hopton,
    Caversham, Reading, England.

  17. Nick Hopton said:

    I didn't know that Anquet wasn't designed from the outset to work with
    GPSs and that the GPS handling procedures were bolted on afterwards.
    This must explain many of the problems.

    So, from our discussions I conclude that for me, at least, the main
    problem with the system is that it is not possible to plot directly a
    *track* on the map, save it and send it to the GPS. It is, of course,
    possible to plot a *route* on the map using lots of waypoints and send
    it to the GPS as a track, but this is a very unsatisfactory way of doing
    things, there needs to be a clear distinction kept between *routes* and
    *tracks*. My GPS and I suppose most GPSs can only store a limited number
    of waypoints, but lots of track points, which is why the distinction is
    important.

    In v06 it is possible to run an option to reduce the number of waypoints
    on a route (or should that be routelet?). I don't know how the algorithm
    works and if it would leave behind the waypoints you actually want. Then
    again, I don't use GPS.

    Before plumping for (old) Anquet, I did try out demo versions of all the
    commercially available systems and I found them all wanting in one way
    or another.

    Roy.

  18. Roy wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    In v06 it is possible to run an option to reduce the number of waypoints
    on a route (or should that be routelet?). I don't know how the algorithm
    works and if it would leave behind the waypoints you actually want. Then
    again, I don't use GPS.


    [...]

    A typical walk for me might be a circular one perhaps 30-odd km long,
    comprising many bits of interconnecting footpaths in the local area. To
    navigate walks like this without stopping every five minutes to consult
    maps, I need to be able to follow a track on the GPS that is good to a
    few metres. Plotting a track like this takes lots of track points. I
    also pop numbered waypoints on the track at intervals of about 500 or a
    1000 metres, so that I can keep track <groan> of where I am. I think
    this is the way that many people navigate using GPSs but unfortunately
    you can't plan walks in Anquet using track points (not directly, anyway).

    Regards, Nick.

    --
    Nick Hopton,
    Caversham, Reading, England.

  19. druidh said:

    As for the storing and handling of data, I've created a number of
    databases for different purposes - planned walks, completed walks,
    geocaches etc. Within these databases, I may have a number of folders,
    perhaps with some geographical grouping. The advantage of the multiple
    database approach is that each can be opened/ closed as required -
    with as many open as your screen can cope with! Closing down any you don't
    want at that time unclutters the screen.

    I'm still using the "old" Anquet, v1.2.20, so I'm not familiar with these
    databases. How do they compare to the Data Management and categories of the
    old version?

    Quoted message said:

    Note that the earlier version of Anquet used the term "path" for a
    section of a route - each route could be made from a number of
    "paths". This nomenclature was dropped with V06 as GPS devices did
    not recognise this construct.

    So have they just changed the nomenclature, or are there more fundamental
    changes to how the new Anquet works? I didn't like the sound of some of the
    new changes so I still haven't tried it.

    Quoted message said:

    However, it is still possible to create
    "sub-routes" within each route, join them, copy them etc. So, a
    classic use for me might be a sub-route from the car park to a
    bridge, then another for a horse-shoe walk, then re-use the first
    from the bridge to the car park by copying it and using the Reverse
    option. Saves going over the same bit twice.

    Which is basically how the original Anquet was designed to work.

    Paul
    --
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk/
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk/weblog/

  20. Roy said:

    Before plumping for (old) Anquet, I did try out demo versions of all
    the commercially available systems and I found them all wanting in
    one way or another.

    Yeah. None of them are ideal for GPS use. Ozi is the best for GPS IMO, but
    GPSU is the most versatile (since it can import and export any GPS format -
    ideal if you have a lot of different GPS/map programs), but neither of them
    have inbuilt maps, so you have to create/scan/acquire your own.

    Paul
    --
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk/
    http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk/weblog/

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