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  1. Some months ago I posted a message complaining of the
    inadequacies in mountain leadership of school teachers. It
    seems to have largely fallen on deaf ears, because here we
    are again with a group of kids in the Cairngorms,
    inadequately equipped. And so it goes on. When are you lot
    going to learn that just because you have a piece of paper
    with mountain leader printed somewhere on it; it doesn`t
    give you the right to risk kids lives just to bolster your
    own egos. Get real, use your mountain leadership paper to
    guide yourself on the hill. Stick to the classroom and leave
    taking kids on to the hills to the professionals.

  2. "Aesop" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Some months ago I posted a message complaining of the
    inadequacies in mountain leadership of school teachers. It
    seems to have largely fallen on deaf ears, because here we
    are again with a group of kids in the


    Cairngorms,

    Quoted message said:

    inadequately equipped. And so it goes on. When are you lot
    going to learn that just because you have a piece of paper
    with mountain leader printed somewhere on it; it doesn`t
    give you the right to risk kids lives just to bolster your
    own egos. Get real, use your mountain leadership paper to


    guide

    Quoted message said:

    yourself on the hill. Stick to the classroom and leave
    taking kids on to


    the

    Quoted message said:

    hills to the professionals.


    Yes, another well considered and sensible argument of the
    type so often expressed in this newsgroup who just want to
    use the forum to express their own bigoted and irrational
    views. Just for the record 'Aesop', the vast majority of
    teachers who give up their own free time to guide pupils and
    students in activites which develop their outdoor skills as
    well as their self-confidence do so with the safety of their
    charges uppermost in their considerations. It is so easy to
    jump on to the one example of bad planning and poor
    execution that comes along every few years and use it as an
    excuse to criticise the teaching profession as a whole. Just
    because you are some inadequate little non-entity with
    nothing useful to say doesn't mean that you have the right
    to pretend that you know what you are talking about. I'm
    sorry Aesop, but you clearly don't. Crawl back into your
    dark and lonely little hole and let us get on with some
    intelligent discussion.

    Gary Webster, Birmingham, England.

  3. "Aesop" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Some months ago I posted a message complaining of the
    inadequacies in mountain leadership of school teachers. It
    seems to have largely fallen on deaf ears, because here we
    are again with a group of kids in the


    Cairngorms,

    Quoted message said:

    inadequately equipped. And so it goes on. When are you lot
    going to learn that just because you have a piece of paper
    with mountain leader printed somewhere on it; it doesn`t
    give you the right to risk kids lives just to bolster your
    own egos. Get real, use your mountain leadership paper to


    guide

    Quoted message said:

    yourself on the hill. Stick to the classroom and leave
    taking kids on to


    the

    Quoted message said:

    hills to the professionals.

    A Troll? MTLC had nothing to do with it! And read posts.

    Have a nice day :-(
    --
    Regards, Chris
    --
    Bird sightings based around 'Craven' Skipton, North Yorks.
    craven-birds.co.ukcraven-birds.co.uk

  4. In message <[email hidden]>, Aesop
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Some months ago I posted a message complaining of the
    inadequacies in mountain leadership of school teachers. It
    seems to have largely fallen on deaf ears, because here we
    are again with a group of kids in the Cairngorms,
    inadequately equipped. And so it goes on. When are you lot
    going to learn that just because you have a piece of paper
    with mountain leader printed somewhere on it; it doesn`t
    give you the right to risk kids lives just to bolster your
    own egos. Get real, use your mountain leadership paper to
    guide yourself on the hill. Stick to the classroom and
    leave taking kids on to the hills to the professionals.


    Troll alert

    --
    Martin Richardson
    239/284 Munros - 15% to go 34/34 'Furths' & 439/439 Nuttalls
    - 0% to go
    240/89 Donalds - 53% to go 0/? Himalayans - 100% to go
    241/1552 Marilyns - 72% to go

  5. In article <[email hidden]>, Gary Webster
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:


    Yes, I am indeed an English teacher. A paragraph is a group
    of sentences that relate to one topic and which follow on
    from a topic sentence. As all the sentences related to the
    topic sentence, there is no need to introduce a second
    paragraph.

    But are enormously useful on usenet posts.

    They break up the text, greatly improving its readability
    on screen.

    --

    Russ Clare

  6. "Gary Webster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Aesop" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Some months ago I posted a message complaining of the
    inadequacies in mountain leadership of school teachers.
    It seems to have largely fallen


    on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    deaf ears, because here we are again with a group of
    kids in the


    Cairngorms,

    Quoted message said:

    inadequately equipped. And so it goes on. When are you
    lot going to


    learn

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that just because you have a piece of paper with
    mountain leader printed somewhere on it; it doesn`t give
    you the right to risk kids lives just


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    bolster your own egos. Get real, use your mountain
    leadership paper to


    guide

    Quoted message said:

    yourself on the hill. Stick to the classroom and leave
    taking kids on to


    the

    Quoted message said:

    hills to the professionals.


    Yes, another well considered and sensible argument of the
    type so often expressed in this newsgroup who just want to
    use the forum to express


    their

    Quoted message said:

    own bigoted and irrational views. Just for the record
    'Aesop', the vast majority of teachers who give up their
    own free time to guide pupils and students in activites
    which develop their outdoor skills as well as their self-
    confidence do so with the safety of their charges
    uppermost in their considerations. It is so easy to jump
    on to the one example of bad


    planning

    Quoted message said:

    and poor execution that comes along every few years and
    use it as an


    excuse

    Quoted message said:

    to criticise the teaching profession as a whole. Just
    because you are some inadequate little non-entity with
    nothing useful to say doesn't mean that you have the right
    to pretend that you know what you are talking about.


    I'm

    Quoted message said:

    sorry Aesop, but you clearly don't. Crawl back into your
    dark and lonely little hole and let us get on with some
    intelligent discussion.

    I heartily agree. But, I assume you aren't a English
    teacher?

    Paragraphs would have been better to get your message across;-
    )
    --
    Regards, Chris
    --
    Bird sightings based around 'Craven' Skipton, North Yorks.
    craven-birds.co.ukcraven-birds.co.uk

  7. "Gary Webster" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    "Aesop" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Some months ago I posted a message complaining of the
    inadequacies in mountain leadership of school teachers.
    It seems to have largely fallen on deaf ears, because
    here we are again with a group of kids in the


    Cairngorms,

    Quoted message said:

    inadequately equipped. And so it goes on. When are you
    lot going to learn that just because you have a piece of
    paper with mountain leader printed somewhere on it; it
    doesn`t give you the right to risk kids lives just to
    bolster your own egos. Get real, use your mountain
    leadership paper to


    guide

    Quoted message said:

    yourself on the hill. Stick to the classroom and leave
    taking kids on to


    the

    Quoted message said:

    hills to the professionals.


    Yes, another well considered and sensible argument of the
    type so often expressed in this newsgroup who just want to
    use the forum to express their own bigoted and irrational
    views. Just for the record 'Aesop', the vast majority of
    teachers who give up their own free time to guide pupils
    and students in activites which develop their outdoor
    skills as well as their self-confidence do so with the
    safety of their charges uppermost in their considerations.
    It is so easy to jump on to the one example of bad
    planning and poor execution that comes along every few
    years and use it as an excuse to criticise the teaching
    profession as a whole. Just because you are some
    inadequate little non-entity with nothing useful to say
    doesn't mean that you have the right to pretend that you
    know what you are talking about. I'm sorry Aesop, but you
    clearly don't. Crawl back into your dark and lonely little
    hole and let us get on with some intelligent discussion.

    Gary Webster, Birmingham, England.

    I agree with your sentiments. And without keen teachers (and
    Scout leaders etc) many youngsters wouldn't have the
    experience of being on hills. I put this incident down to
    ignorance rather than arrogance. It happens.

    --
    Adrian

  8. "Craven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I heartily agree. But, I assume you aren't a English
    teacher?

    Paragraphs would have been better to get your message
    across;-)
    --

    Yes, I am indeed an English teacher. A paragraph is a group
    of sentences that relate to one topic and which follow on
    from a topic sentence. As all the sentences related to the
    topic sentence, there is no need to introduce a second
    paragraph.

    I do accept that there was a typographical error in
    the first sentence, though, which was caused by too
    much wine. ;-)

    Gary Webster Birmingham, England.

  9. "Gary Webster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Craven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2kr8hbF5ctlvU1@uni-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I heartily agree. But, I assume you aren't a English
    teacher?

    Paragraphs would have been better to get your message
    across;-)
    --

    Yes, I am indeed an English teacher. A paragraph is a
    group of sentences that relate to one topic and which
    follow on from a topic sentence. As all the sentences
    related to the topic sentence, there is no need to
    introduce


    a

    Quoted message said:

    second paragraph.

    I do accept that there was a typographical error in the
    first sentence, though, which was caused by too much
    wine. ;-)

    Well, give up your day job. You 'aint up to it!

    --
    Regards, Chris
    --
    Bird sightings based around 'Craven' Skipton, North Yorks.
    craven-birds.co.ukcraven-birds.co.uk

  10. Gary Webster said:

    "Craven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2kr8hbF5ctlvU1@uni-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I heartily agree. But, I assume you aren't a English
    teacher?

    Paragraphs would have been better to get your message
    across;-)

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, I am indeed an English teacher. A paragraph is a group
    of sentences that relate to one topic and which follow on
    from a topic sentence. As all the sentences related to the
    topic sentence, there is no need to introduce a second
    paragraph.

    Well, yes, that's how you start explaining papragraphs to
    idiots. We hoped to find your understanding of written
    English a bit more sophisticated. But as you say, you're an
    English teacher.
    --
    Chris Malcolm [email hidden] +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205
    IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
    ["]http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

  11. "Craven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Well, give up your day job. You 'aint up to it!

    Erm, right-oh. I would of course argue that my pupils'
    results show otherwise, but as you're so qualified to pass
    judgement (maybe you're an Ofsted inspector - thy don't know
    what they're talking about either) I will bow to your
    greater understanding.

    Gary Webster Birmingham, England

  12. Gary Webster said:

    Yes, I am indeed an English teacher. A paragraph is a
    group of sentences that relate to one topic and which
    follow on from a topic sentence. As all the sentences
    related to the topic sentence, there is no need to
    introduce a second paragraph.

    Grammatically, quite so. But there's more to formatting text
    to be as easy as reasonably possible to read than pure
    grammatical correctness, and relative ease of reading is a
    factor in Usenet posts.

    Do you wish to be understood as well as possible, or as
    pedantic about your formatting as possible? Your call...

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111
    ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382
    640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net
    [email hidden] dundee.ac.uk~pjclinch

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