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  1. Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor team
    has tested positive for drugs.

    http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287

  2. trg said:

    Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor team
    has tested positive for drugs.

    http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287

    Another candidate for a Zidane headbutt then.

  3. "trg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor team
    has tested positive for drugs.

    http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287


    I think you misread the quote. According to the french translation, what he
    said was "all the french soccer team were confirmed positive ... as being
    [censored]". The testing positive bit had nothing to do with drugs unless he
    was inferring something we don't know.

  4. "matabala" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "trg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor team
    has tested positive for drugs.

    http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287


    I think you misread the quote. According to the french translation, what
    he said was "all the french soccer team were confirmed positive ... as
    being [censored]". The testing positive bit had nothing to do with drugs
    unless he was inferring something we don't know.

    I think you're right and I'm sure that as soon as that misunderstanding is
    cleared up, the French will love Armstrong as much as before.

    Benjo

  5. "Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    trg said:

    Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor team
    has tested positive for drugs.

    http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287

    Another candidate for a Zidane headbutt then.

    He's after Dopey Hein's old job.

  6. "matabala" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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    |
    | "trg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    | > Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor
    team
    | > has tested positive for drugs.
    | >
    | > http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287
    | >
    | >
    | I think you misread the quote. According to the french translation, what
    he
    | said was "all the french soccer team were confirmed positive ... as being
    | [censored]". The testing positive bit had nothing to do with drugs unless
    he
    | was inferring something we don't know.
    |
    |

    Oh, I just reread it. You're right. That'll go over much better. I wonder
    what he really said? I've looked for the quote in English but haven't found
    it.

  7. benjo maso said:


    "matabala" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "trg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor team
    has tested positive for drugs.

    http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287


    I think you misread the quote. According to the french translation, what
    he said was "all the french soccer team were confirmed positive ... as
    being [censored]". The testing positive bit had nothing to do with drugs
    unless he was inferring something we don't know.

    I think you're right and I'm sure that as soon as that misunderstanding is
    cleared up, the French will love Armstrong as much as before.

    On the other hand, coming from the biggest [censored] in cycling in
    recent history that's probably a compliment.

    Quoted message said:


    Benjo

  8. On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 21:50:42 +0200, "matabala" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "trg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor team
    has tested positive for drugs.

    http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287


    I think you misread the quote. According to the french translation, what he
    said was "all the french soccer team were confirmed positive ... as being
    [censored]". The testing positive bit had nothing to do with drugs unless he
    was inferring something we don't know.

    To be quite honest, the entire French team could be using EPO, or
    blood doping, and no one would know it. FFIFA don't do a very good
    job screening for drugs.

    During the WC two players are screened for drugs after each match. As
    far as I know, FIFA has not set any legal hematocrit level and only
    tests for synthetic EPO. Soccer is an endurance sport and I assume
    that soccer players are taking advantage of a system that is easy to
    beat.

    I'm often amazed at the quick recovery from injury that soccer players
    make. Wayne Rooney's recovery from a broken bone in his foot was
    nothing short of miraculous. I'm sure that the knowledge that he
    would not be tested during his recovery time might have encouraged him
    to use HGH and steroids to help spped up his recovery.

    To be quite honest, if I was a top FIFA official and I saw what has
    happened to cycling, I doubt that I'd want to go too far in revealing
    drug use in soccer. After all, match fixing in Italy is bad enough.

  9. Jack Hollis said:

    To be quite honest, the entire French team could be using EPO, or
    blood doping, and no one would know it. FFIFA don't do a very good
    job screening for drugs.

    During the WC two players are screened for drugs after each match. As
    far as I know, FIFA has not set any legal hematocrit level and only
    tests for synthetic EPO. Soccer is an endurance sport and I assume
    that soccer players are taking advantage of a system that is easy to
    beat.

    I'm often amazed at the quick recovery from injury that soccer players
    make. Wayne Rooney's recovery from a broken bone in his foot was
    nothing short of miraculous. I'm sure that the knowledge that he
    would not be tested during his recovery time might have encouraged him
    to use HGH and steroids to help spped up his recovery.

    To be quite honest, if I was a top FIFA official and I saw what has
    happened to cycling, I doubt that I'd want to go too far in revealing
    drug use in soccer. After all, match fixing in Italy is bad enough.

    You know, there are indeed some issues which are making me suspicious
    that doping in soccer might be a factor:

    - Since around 1980, the game tactics started to change completely. You
    could see this beginning in Netherlands (Ajax) and later in A.C.Milan,
    when in 1986 Sacchi started there as a trainer with tremendous success.
    The demand especially on midfielder's endurance grew dramatically.
    Nowadays a typical midfielder is said to run 15km in one 90min game.
    - Just compare video footage of modern soccer games to video footage of
    1950/60/70. You have the impression that the latter is going in slow-mo.

  10. "Jack Hollis" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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    | On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 21:50:42 +0200, "matabala" <[email hidden]>
    | wrote:
    |
    | >
    | >"trg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | >news:[email hidden]...
    | >> Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor
    team
    | >> has tested positive for drugs.
    | >>
    | >> http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287
    | >>
    | >>
    | >I think you misread the quote. According to the french translation, what
    he
    | >said was "all the french soccer team were confirmed positive ... as being
    | >[censored]". The testing positive bit had nothing to do with drugs unless
    he
    | >was inferring something we don't know.
    | >
    |
    | To be quite honest, the entire French team could be using EPO, or
    | blood doping, and no one would know it. FFIFA don't do a very good
    | job screening for drugs.
    |
    | During the WC two players are screened for drugs after each match. As
    | far as I know, FIFA has not set any legal hematocrit level and only
    | tests for synthetic EPO. Soccer is an endurance sport and I assume
    | that soccer players are taking advantage of a system that is easy to
    | beat.
    |

    It's urine testing, isn't it?

  11. "benjo maso" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "matabala" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "trg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor
    team
    has tested positive for drugs.

    http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287


    I think you misread the quote. According to the french translation, what
    he said was "all the french soccer team were confirmed positive ... as
    being [censored]". The testing positive bit had nothing to do with drugs
    unless he was inferring something we don't know.

    I think you're right and I'm sure that as soon as that misunderstanding is
    cleared up, the French will love Armstrong as much as before.

    Benjo

    From L'Equipe
    Fra - Armstrong lance des piques
    dim 16 jui, 10h31
    Septuple vainqueur du Tour de France, l'Américain Lance Armstrong ne semble
    pas soucieux de garder de bonnes relations avec le pays hôte de l'épreuve
    phare du cyclisme mondial.

    Interrogé dans une émission de télévision qui doit être diffusée dimanche
    aux Etats-Unis, Armstrong s'en est pris de manière assez virulente aux
    joueurs de l'équipe de France de football. «Tous leurs joueurs ont été
    testés positifs... comme étant des trous-du-cul» a-t-il déclaré lors de
    l'interview.

    He may have a very interesting time in Gap.

  12. "trg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor team
    has tested positive for drugs.

    http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287

    http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tourdefrance2006/story/0,,1821497,00.html

  13. trg said:

    "Jack Hollis" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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    | On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 21:50:42 +0200, "matabala" <[email hidden]>
    | wrote:
    |
    | >
    | >"trg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | >news:[email hidden]...
    | >> Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor
    team
    | >> has tested positive for drugs.
    | >>
    | >> http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287
    | >>
    | >>
    | >I think you misread the quote. According to the french translation, what
    he
    | >said was "all the french soccer team were confirmed positive ... as being
    | >[censored]". The testing positive bit had nothing to do with drugs unless
    he
    | >was inferring something we don't know.
    | >
    |
    | To be quite honest, the entire French team could be using EPO, or
    | blood doping, and no one would know it. FFIFA don't do a very good
    | job screening for drugs.
    |
    | During the WC two players are screened for drugs after each match. As
    | far as I know, FIFA has not set any legal hematocrit level and only
    | tests for synthetic EPO. Soccer is an endurance sport and I assume
    | that soccer players are taking advantage of a system that is easy to
    | beat.
    |

    It's urine testing, isn't it?

    Yes, as far as I know, FIFA only uses urine.

  14. Ernst Noch said:


    You know, there are indeed some issues which are making me suspicious
    that doping in soccer might be a factor:

    Old news:
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,27-1377375,00.html

  15. trg said:

    Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor team
    has tested positive for drugs.

    http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287

    As if the French needed a reason to hate anyone. They're just [censored]
    because the best they can scrape off the bathroom floor in twenty years
    is Moreau.

  16. "Mr. K.V.B.L." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    trg said:

    Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor team
    has tested positive for drugs.

    http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287

    As if the French needed a reason to hate anyone. They're just [censored]
    because the best they can scrape off the bathroom floor in twenty years
    is Moreau.

    Nitpicking here, but Fignon was pretty good in 1989.

  17. "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Mr. K.V.B.L." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    trg said:

    Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor
    team
    has tested positive for drugs.

    http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287

    As if the French needed a reason to hate anyone. They're just [censored]
    because the best they can scrape off the bathroom floor in twenty years
    is Moreau.

    Nitpicking here, but Fignon was pretty good in 1989.

    And only 9 years ago a Frenchman finished second.

    Benjo

  18. "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Mr. K.V.B.L." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    trg said:

    Apparently in an ESPN interview he said that the whole French soccor
    team
    has tested positive for drugs.

    http://www.velo-club.net/article?sid=33287

    As if the French needed a reason to hate anyone. They're just [censored]
    because the best they can scrape off the bathroom floor in twenty years
    is Moreau.

    Nitpicking here, but Fignon was pretty good in 1989.


    In 1989 Fignon won, among other races less important:
    Giro (+1 stage win)
    Milano-San Remo
    GP Nations
    Ronde van Nederland
    Baracchi Trophy
    Crit des As
    Two stages of the Tour (one being the ttt)

  19. Carl Sundquist said:
    Quoted message said:

    As if the French needed a reason to hate anyone. They're just [censored]
    because the best they can scrape off the bathroom floor in twenty years
    is Moreau.

    Nitpicking here, but Fignon was pretty good in 1989.

    As Maxwell Smart would say, "Missed it by *that* much!"

    Kelly Beard

  20. Can't find a clip of the line about the French soccer team, but it's
    pretty much what's quoted above. It was one of the first jokes in his
    opening monologue while he was hosting the Espy awards.
    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13901635/

    More from the monologue:

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