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  1. So much for the alleged "health benefits" of this destructive
    sport....

    Mike

    In the News
    Posted AT 9:57 PM EDT on 26/02/07

    Body of Canadian cyclist found in Bolivia
    Associated Press

    LA PAZ — Bolivian police confirmed Monday that a body found in a
    ravine near a mountain pass above La Paz was that of a missing
    Canadian cyclist believed to have been travelling a nearby highway.

    An Update:
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070709.wboliviacdn0710/BNStory/International/home
    Bolivia may have found clue in death of Canadian
    Associated Press

    July 9, 2007 at 11:45 PM EDT

    LA PAZ — Police raiding an apartment in Bolivia's capital found a
    mountain bike that may have belonged to a Canadian tourist found dead
    earlier this year, along with backpacks, passport and credits cards
    apparently stolen from tourists, authorities said.

    Simon Matthew Boily, 23, of Alma, Que., set out Jan. 21 to cycle down
    a treacherous mountain highway through the Andean foothills near La
    Paz. His body — but not his expensive mountain bike — was found a
    month later in a ravine near the road about 25 kilometres from the
    city.

    On Monday, Bolivian police executing a search warrant on a pair of
    suspected criminals' La Paz apartment found a bike similar to Mr.
    Boily's stashed along with an assortment of items apparently stolen
    from tourists. They also found marijuana and a .38-calibre pistol.

    “We suspect that [the bicycle] could belong to the Canadian tourist
    who died six months ago, also in a robbery,” government prosecutor
    Alain Canedo said.

    Police had been initially unsure whether Mr. Boily's death was
    accidental or the result of foul play.
    Further investigation is still needed, however, before the bike can be
    definitively tied to Mr. Boily, officials said.

    The apartment's residents, whom police believe to be Peruvian, had
    fled before authorities arrived.

    Mr. Boily had planned to travel to the popular tourist town Coroico,
    about 50 kilometres northwest of La Paz, where he may have been
    seeking volunteer work, Canadian officials said.

    The La Paz-Coroico highway, known as the “Highway of Death” for its
    hairpin turns and precipitous drop-offs, has become a favourite with
    foreign cyclists though traffic wrecks along it have claimed hundreds
    of lives over the years.
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  2. Jesus Christ, Mike. You just posted a story about a murder investigation.
    The "mountain biker" was riding on the pavement -- where you assert that all
    bikes belong -- and was a kidnap victim that was murdered.

    You are one sorry son of a [censored] ...

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So much for the alleged "health benefits" of this destructive
    sport....

    Mike

    In the News
    Posted AT 9:57 PM EDT on 26/02/07

    Body of Canadian cyclist found in Bolivia
    Associated Press

    LA PAZ - Bolivian police confirmed Monday that a body found in a
    ravine near a mountain pass above La Paz was that of a missing
    Canadian cyclist believed to have been travelling a nearby highway.

    An Update:
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070709.wboliviacdn0710/BNStory/International/home
    Bolivia may have found clue in death of Canadian
    Associated Press

    July 9, 2007 at 11:45 PM EDT

    LA PAZ - Police raiding an apartment in Bolivia's capital found a
    mountain bike that may have belonged to a Canadian tourist found dead
    earlier this year, along with backpacks, passport and credits cards
    apparently stolen from tourists, authorities said.

    Simon Matthew Boily, 23, of Alma, Que., set out Jan. 21 to cycle down
    a treacherous mountain highway through the Andean foothills near La
    Paz. His body - but not his expensive mountain bike - was found a
    month later in a ravine near the road about 25 kilometres from the
    city.

    On Monday, Bolivian police executing a search warrant on a pair of
    suspected criminals' La Paz apartment found a bike similar to Mr.
    Boily's stashed along with an assortment of items apparently stolen
    from tourists. They also found marijuana and a .38-calibre pistol.

    "We suspect that [the bicycle] could belong to the Canadian tourist
    who died six months ago, also in a robbery," government prosecutor
    Alain Canedo said.

    Police had been initially unsure whether Mr. Boily's death was
    accidental or the result of foul play.
    Further investigation is still needed, however, before the bike can be
    definitively tied to Mr. Boily, officials said.

    The apartment's residents, whom police believe to be Peruvian, had
    fled before authorities arrived.

    Mr. Boily had planned to travel to the popular tourist town Coroico,
    about 50 kilometres northwest of La Paz, where he may have been
    seeking volunteer work, Canadian officials said.

    The La Paz-Coroico highway, known as the "Highway of Death" for its
    hairpin turns and precipitous drop-offs, has become a favourite with
    foreign cyclists though traffic wrecks along it have claimed hundreds
    of lives over the years.
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
    fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  3. Mike Vandeman said:

    So much for the alleged "health benefits" of this destructive
    sport....

    Mike

    In the News
    Posted AT 9:57 PM EDT on 26/02/07

    Body of Canadian cyclist found in Bolivia
    Associated Press

    LA PAZ - Bolivian police confirmed Monday that a body found in a
    ravine near a mountain pass above La Paz was that of a missing
    Canadian cyclist believed to have been travelling a nearby highway.

    An Update:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070709.wboliviac...
    Bolivia may have found clue in death of Canadian
    Associated Press

    July 9, 2007 at 11:45 PM EDT

    LA PAZ - Police raiding an apartment in Bolivia's capital found a
    mountain bike that may have belonged to a Canadian tourist found dead
    earlier this year, along with backpacks, passport and credits cards
    apparently stolen from tourists, authorities said.

    Simon Matthew Boily, 23, of Alma, Que., set out Jan. 21 to cycle down
    a treacherous mountain highway through the Andean foothills near La
    Paz. His body - but not his expensive mountain bike - was found a
    month later in a ravine near the road about 25 kilometres from the
    city.

    On Monday, Bolivian police executing a search warrant on a pair of
    suspected criminals' La Paz apartment found a bike similar to Mr.
    Boily's stashed along with an assortment of items apparently stolen
    from tourists. They also found marijuana and a .38-calibre pistol.

    "We suspect that [the bicycle] could belong to the Canadian tourist
    who died six months ago, also in a robbery," government prosecutor
    Alain Canedo said.

    Police had been initially unsure whether Mr. Boily's death was
    accidental or the result of foul play.
    Further investigation is still needed, however, before the bike can be
    definitively tied to Mr. Boily, officials said.

    The apartment's residents, whom police believe to be Peruvian, had
    fled before authorities arrived.

    Mr. Boily had planned to travel to the popular tourist town Coroico,
    about 50 kilometres northwest of La Paz, where he may have been
    seeking volunteer work, Canadian officials said.

    The La Paz-Coroico highway, known as the "Highway of Death" for its
    hairpin turns and precipitous drop-offs, has become a favourite with
    foreign cyclists though traffic wrecks along it have claimed hundreds
    of lives over the years.
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    Some much for the "honesty" of Mike Vanderpants. Liar!

  4. "SGK" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    Some much for the "honesty" of Mike Vanderpants. Liar!

    If we could get Vandeman to be honest, he'd have to stop posting.

  5. SGK said:
    Mike Vandeman said:

    So much for the alleged "health benefits" of this destructive
    sport....

    Mike

    In the News
    Posted AT 9:57 PM EDT on 26/02/07

    Body of Canadian cyclist found in Bolivia
    Associated Press

    LA PAZ - Bolivian police confirmed Monday that a body found in a
    ravine near a mountain pass above La Paz was that of a missing
    Canadian cyclist believed to have been travelling a nearby highway.

    An Update:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070709.wboliviac...
    Bolivia may have found clue in death of Canadian
    Associated Press

    July 9, 2007 at 11:45 PM EDT

    LA PAZ - Police raiding an apartment in Bolivia's capital found a
    mountain bike that may have belonged to a Canadian tourist found dead
    earlier this year, along with backpacks, passport and credits cards
    apparently stolen from tourists, authorities said.

    Simon Matthew Boily, 23, of Alma, Que., set out Jan. 21 to cycle down
    a treacherous mountain highway through the Andean foothills near La
    Paz. His body - but not his expensive mountain bike - was found a
    month later in a ravine near the road about 25 kilometres from the
    city.

    On Monday, Bolivian police executing a search warrant on a pair of
    suspected criminals' La Paz apartment found a bike similar to Mr.
    Boily's stashed along with an assortment of items apparently stolen
    from tourists. They also found marijuana and a .38-calibre pistol.

    "We suspect that [the bicycle] could belong to the Canadian tourist
    who died six months ago, also in a robbery," government prosecutor
    Alain Canedo said.

    Police had been initially unsure whether Mr. Boily's death was
    accidental or the result of foul play.
    Further investigation is still needed, however, before the bike can be
    definitively tied to Mr. Boily, officials said.

    The apartment's residents, whom police believe to be Peruvian, had
    fled before authorities arrived.

    Mr. Boily had planned to travel to the popular tourist town Coroico,
    about 50 kilometres northwest of La Paz, where he may have been
    seeking volunteer work, Canadian officials said.

    The La Paz-Coroico highway, known as the "Highway of Death" for its
    hairpin turns and precipitous drop-offs, has become a favourite with
    foreign cyclists though traffic wrecks along it have claimed hundreds
    of lives over the years.
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    Some much for the "honesty" of Mike Vanderpants. Liar!

    What's the lie, liar?
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  6. Jeff Strickland said:


    "SGK" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    Some much for the "honesty" of Mike Vanderpants. Liar!

    If we could get Vandeman to be honest, he'd have to stop posting.

    What's the lie, liar?
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  7. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    SGK said:
    Mike Vandeman said:

    So much for the alleged "health benefits" of this destructive
    sport....

    Mike

    In the News
    Posted AT 9:57 PM EDT on 26/02/07

    Body of Canadian cyclist found in Bolivia
    Associated Press

    LA PAZ - Bolivian police confirmed Monday that a body found in a
    ravine near a mountain pass above La Paz was that of a missing
    Canadian cyclist believed to have been travelling a nearby highway.

    An
    Update:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070709.wboliviac...
    Bolivia may have found clue in death of Canadian
    Associated Press

    July 9, 2007 at 11:45 PM EDT

    LA PAZ - Police raiding an apartment in Bolivia's capital found a
    mountain bike that may have belonged to a Canadian tourist found dead
    earlier this year, along with backpacks, passport and credits cards
    apparently stolen from tourists, authorities said.

    Simon Matthew Boily, 23, of Alma, Que., set out Jan. 21 to cycle down
    a treacherous mountain highway through the Andean foothills near La
    Paz. His body - but not his expensive mountain bike - was found a
    month later in a ravine near the road about 25 kilometres from the
    city.

    On Monday, Bolivian police executing a search warrant on a pair of
    suspected criminals' La Paz apartment found a bike similar to Mr.
    Boily's stashed along with an assortment of items apparently stolen
    from tourists. They also found marijuana and a .38-calibre pistol.

    "We suspect that [the bicycle] could belong to the Canadian tourist
    who died six months ago, also in a robbery," government prosecutor
    Alain Canedo said.

    Police had been initially unsure whether Mr. Boily's death was
    accidental or the result of foul play.
    Further investigation is still needed, however, before the bike can be
    definitively tied to Mr. Boily, officials said.

    The apartment's residents, whom police believe to be Peruvian, had
    fled before authorities arrived.

    Mr. Boily had planned to travel to the popular tourist town Coroico,
    about 50 kilometres northwest of La Paz, where he may have been
    seeking volunteer work, Canadian officials said.

    The La Paz-Coroico highway, known as the "Highway of Death" for its
    hairpin turns and precipitous drop-offs, has become a favourite with
    foreign cyclists though traffic wrecks along it have claimed hundreds
    of lives over the years.
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
    fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    Some much for the "honesty" of Mike Vanderpants. Liar!

    What's the lie, liar?

    What's the lie? That's rich. Well, not rich, sad.

    The fact is, the mountain biker was riding his bike on the street -- where
    you assert tht it belongs -- and he was kidnapped then killed then tossed
    off a cliff. His bicycle was stolen, along with his phone and credit cards.

  8. Jeff Strickland wrote:

    <snip Strickenrant)

    Quoted message said:


    You are one sorry son of a [censored] ...

    <snip Vanderant>

    What took you so long, Jeff? You've been arguing with the twit for
    years, with no result except that you now have an inferiority complex
    because he ignores you. He ignores everyone - live with it and ignore him.

  9. "Steve Baker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:r_zli.10312$lY4.1661@trndny07...

    Quoted message said:

    Jeff Strickland wrote:

    <snip Strickenrant)

    Quoted message said:


    You are one sorry son of a [censored] ...

    <snip Vanderant>

    What took you so long, Jeff? You've been arguing with the twit for years,
    with no result except that you now have an inferiority complex because he
    ignores you. He ignores everyone - live with it and ignore him.

    I am far too grandiose to have an inferiority complex, especially one
    inflicted by the likes of Michael J Vandeman.

  10. Jeff Strickland said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    SGK said:

    On Jul 11, 6:51 am, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > So much for the alleged "health benefits" of this destructive
    > sport....
    >
    > Mike
    >
    > In the News
    > Posted AT 9:57 PM EDT on 26/02/07
    >
    > Body of Canadian cyclist found in Bolivia
    > Associated Press
    >
    > LA PAZ - Bolivian police confirmed Monday that a body found in a
    > ravine near a mountain pass above La Paz was that of a missing
    > Canadian cyclist believed to have been travelling a nearby highway.
    >
    > An
    > Update:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070709.wboliviac...
    > Bolivia may have found clue in death of Canadian
    > Associated Press
    >
    > July 9, 2007 at 11:45 PM EDT
    >
    > LA PAZ - Police raiding an apartment in Bolivia's capital found a
    > mountain bike that may have belonged to a Canadian tourist found dead
    > earlier this year, along with backpacks, passport and credits cards
    > apparently stolen from tourists, authorities said.
    >
    > Simon Matthew Boily, 23, of Alma, Que., set out Jan. 21 to cycle down
    > a treacherous mountain highway through the Andean foothills near La
    > Paz. His body - but not his expensive mountain bike - was found a
    > month later in a ravine near the road about 25 kilometres from the
    > city.
    >
    > On Monday, Bolivian police executing a search warrant on a pair of
    > suspected criminals' La Paz apartment found a bike similar to Mr.
    > Boily's stashed along with an assortment of items apparently stolen
    > from tourists. They also found marijuana and a .38-calibre pistol.
    >
    > "We suspect that [the bicycle] could belong to the Canadian tourist
    > who died six months ago, also in a robbery," government prosecutor
    > Alain Canedo said.
    >
    > Police had been initially unsure whether Mr. Boily's death was
    > accidental or the result of foul play.
    > Further investigation is still needed, however, before the bike can be
    > definitively tied to Mr. Boily, officials said.
    >
    > The apartment's residents, whom police believe to be Peruvian, had
    > fled before authorities arrived.
    >
    > Mr. Boily had planned to travel to the popular tourist town Coroico,
    > about 50 kilometres northwest of La Paz, where he may have been
    > seeking volunteer work, Canadian officials said.
    >
    > The La Paz-Coroico highway, known as the "Highway of Death" for its
    > hairpin turns and precipitous drop-offs, has become a favourite with
    > foreign cyclists though traffic wrecks along it have claimed hundreds
    > of lives over the years.
    > --
    > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    > humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
    >
    > Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
    > fond of!
    >
    > http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    Some much for the "honesty" of Mike Vanderpants. Liar!

    What's the lie, liar?

    What's the lie? That's rich. Well, not rich, sad.

    The fact is, the mountain biker was riding his bike on the street -- where
    you assert tht it belongs -- and he was kidnapped then killed then tossed
    off a cliff. His bicycle was stolen, along with his phone and credit cards.

    So I repeat, where is the lie? I guess there wasn't one, since you
    didn't quote any, LIAR.
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  11. Jeff Strickland said:


    "Steve Baker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:r_zli.10312$lY4.1661@trndny07...

    Quoted message said:

    Jeff Strickland wrote:

    <snip Strickenrant)

    Quoted message said:


    You are one sorry son of a [censored] ...

    <snip Vanderant>

    What took you so long, Jeff? You've been arguing with the twit for years,
    with no result except that you now have an inferiority complex because he
    ignores you. He ignores everyone - live with it and ignore him.

    I am far too grandiose to have an inferiority complex, especially one
    inflicted by the likes of Michael J Vandeman.

    No, you aren't smart enough to have an inferiority complex. You are
    just plain inferior. And a LIAR.
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  12. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I am far too grandiose to have an inferiority complex, especially one
    inflicted by the likes of Michael J Vandeman.

    No, you aren't smart enough to have an inferiority complex. You are
    just plain inferior. And a LIAR.

    You, my friend, are the liar here.

    You posted the ill effects of mountain biking and cited a story where the
    ill effect of murder is the real story.

  13. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jeff Strickland said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:23:56 -0000, SGK <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >On Jul 11, 6:51 am, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> So much for the alleged "health benefits" of this destructive
    >> sport....
    >>
    >> Mike
    >>
    >> In the News
    >> Posted AT 9:57 PM EDT on 26/02/07
    >>
    >> Body of Canadian cyclist found in Bolivia
    >> Associated Press
    >>
    >> LA PAZ - Bolivian police confirmed Monday that a body found in a
    >> ravine near a mountain pass above La Paz was that of a missing
    >> Canadian cyclist believed to have been travelling a nearby highway.
    >>
    >> An
    >> Update:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070709.wboliviac...
    >> Bolivia may have found clue in death of Canadian
    >> Associated Press
    >>
    >> July 9, 2007 at 11:45 PM EDT
    >>
    >> LA PAZ - Police raiding an apartment in Bolivia's capital found a
    >> mountain bike that may have belonged to a Canadian tourist found dead
    >> earlier this year, along with backpacks, passport and credits cards
    >> apparently stolen from tourists, authorities said.
    >>
    >> Simon Matthew Boily, 23, of Alma, Que., set out Jan. 21 to cycle down
    >> a treacherous mountain highway through the Andean foothills near La
    >> Paz. His body - but not his expensive mountain bike - was found a
    >> month later in a ravine near the road about 25 kilometres from the
    >> city.
    >>
    >> On Monday, Bolivian police executing a search warrant on a pair of
    >> suspected criminals' La Paz apartment found a bike similar to Mr.
    >> Boily's stashed along with an assortment of items apparently stolen
    >> from tourists. They also found marijuana and a .38-calibre pistol.
    >>
    >> "We suspect that [the bicycle] could belong to the Canadian tourist
    >> who died six months ago, also in a robbery," government prosecutor
    >> Alain Canedo said.
    >>
    >> Police had been initially unsure whether Mr. Boily's death was
    >> accidental or the result of foul play.
    >> Further investigation is still needed, however, before the bike can be
    >> definitively tied to Mr. Boily, officials said.
    >>
    >> The apartment's residents, whom police believe to be Peruvian, had
    >> fled before authorities arrived.
    >>
    >> Mr. Boily had planned to travel to the popular tourist town Coroico,
    >> about 50 kilometres northwest of La Paz, where he may have been
    >> seeking volunteer work, Canadian officials said.
    >>
    >> The La Paz-Coroico highway, known as the "Highway of Death" for its
    >> hairpin turns and precipitous drop-offs, has become a favourite with
    >> foreign cyclists though traffic wrecks along it have claimed hundreds
    >> of lives over the years.
    >> --
    >> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    >> humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    >> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
    >>
    >> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
    >> are
    >> fond of!
    >>
    >> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
    >
    >Some much for the "honesty" of Mike Vanderpants. Liar!

    What's the lie, liar?

    What's the lie? That's rich. Well, not rich, sad.

    The fact is, the mountain biker was riding his bike on the street -- where
    you assert tht it belongs -- and he was kidnapped then killed then tossed
    off a cliff. His bicycle was stolen, along with his phone and credit
    cards.

    So I repeat, where is the lie? I guess there wasn't one, since you
    didn't quote any, LIAR.
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
    fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    Please allow me to refresh your failing memory

    <quote>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> So much for the alleged "health benefits" of this destructive
    >> sport....
    >>
    >> Mike


    </quote

    The "alleged" health benefits of biking is not the story here, the alleged
    health "benefit" of murder is the real story.

    The guy didn't die because his bike killed him, he died because robbers got
    to him. HE WAS MURDERED you moron.

    Go ahead and use that phone, please. Use it often.

  14. Jeff Strickland said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I am far too grandiose to have an inferiority complex, especially one
    inflicted by the likes of Michael J Vandeman.

    No, you aren't smart enough to have an inferiority complex. You are
    just plain inferior. And a LIAR.

    You, my friend, are the liar here.

    You posted the ill effects of mountain biking and cited a story where the
    ill effect of murder is the real story.

    BS. Just look at the Subject. It tells the truth. When you said I
    lied, that was a lie. You have failed to quote any lie, because there
    ISN'T one! Except YOURS. LIAR.
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  15. Jeff Strickland said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jeff Strickland said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:23:56 -0000, SGK <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >>On Jul 11, 6:51 am, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>> So much for the alleged "health benefits" of this destructive
    >>> sport....
    >>>
    >>> Mike
    >>>
    >>> In the News
    >>> Posted AT 9:57 PM EDT on 26/02/07
    >>>
    >>> Body of Canadian cyclist found in Bolivia
    >>> Associated Press
    >>>
    >>> LA PAZ - Bolivian police confirmed Monday that a body found in a
    >>> ravine near a mountain pass above La Paz was that of a missing
    >>> Canadian cyclist believed to have been travelling a nearby highway.
    >>>
    >>> An
    >>> Update:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070709.wboliviac...
    >>> Bolivia may have found clue in death of Canadian
    >>> Associated Press
    >>>
    >>> July 9, 2007 at 11:45 PM EDT
    >>>
    >>> LA PAZ - Police raiding an apartment in Bolivia's capital found a
    >>> mountain bike that may have belonged to a Canadian tourist found dead
    >>> earlier this year, along with backpacks, passport and credits cards
    >>> apparently stolen from tourists, authorities said.
    >>>
    >>> Simon Matthew Boily, 23, of Alma, Que., set out Jan. 21 to cycle down
    >>> a treacherous mountain highway through the Andean foothills near La
    >>> Paz. His body - but not his expensive mountain bike - was found a
    >>> month later in a ravine near the road about 25 kilometres from the
    >>> city.
    >>>
    >>> On Monday, Bolivian police executing a search warrant on a pair of
    >>> suspected criminals' La Paz apartment found a bike similar to Mr.
    >>> Boily's stashed along with an assortment of items apparently stolen
    >>> from tourists. They also found marijuana and a .38-calibre pistol.
    >>>
    >>> "We suspect that [the bicycle] could belong to the Canadian tourist
    >>> who died six months ago, also in a robbery," government prosecutor
    >>> Alain Canedo said.
    >>>
    >>> Police had been initially unsure whether Mr. Boily's death was
    >>> accidental or the result of foul play.
    >>> Further investigation is still needed, however, before the bike can be
    >>> definitively tied to Mr. Boily, officials said.
    >>>
    >>> The apartment's residents, whom police believe to be Peruvian, had
    >>> fled before authorities arrived.
    >>>
    >>> Mr. Boily had planned to travel to the popular tourist town Coroico,
    >>> about 50 kilometres northwest of La Paz, where he may have been
    >>> seeking volunteer work, Canadian officials said.
    >>>
    >>> The La Paz-Coroico highway, known as the "Highway of Death" for its
    >>> hairpin turns and precipitous drop-offs, has become a favourite with
    >>> foreign cyclists though traffic wrecks along it have claimed hundreds
    >>> of lives over the years.
    >>> --
    >>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    >>> humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    >>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
    >>>
    >>> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
    >>> are
    >>> fond of!
    >>>
    >>> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
    >>
    >>Some much for the "honesty" of Mike Vanderpants. Liar!
    >
    > What's the lie, liar?

    What's the lie? That's rich. Well, not rich, sad.

    The fact is, the mountain biker was riding his bike on the street -- where
    you assert tht it belongs -- and he was kidnapped then killed then tossed
    off a cliff. His bicycle was stolen, along with his phone and credit
    cards.

    So I repeat, where is the lie? I guess there wasn't one, since you
    didn't quote any, LIAR.
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
    fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    Please allow me to refresh your failing memory

    <quote>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>> So much for the alleged "health benefits" of this destructive
    >>> sport....
    >>>
    >>> Mike


    </quote

    The "alleged" health benefits of biking is not the story here, the alleged
    health "benefit" of murder is the real story.

    The guy didn't die because his bike killed him, he died because robbers got
    to him. HE WAS MURDERED you moron.

    You don't know that, liar. But in any case, a lie is an assertion. My
    only assertion is in the Subject, which is CORRECT. Idiot.

    Quoted message said:

    Go ahead and use that phone, please. Use it often.


    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  16. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jeff Strickland said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >
    >I am far too grandiose to have an inferiority complex, especially one
    >inflicted by the likes of Michael J Vandeman.

    No, you aren't smart enough to have an inferiority complex. You are
    just plain inferior. And a LIAR.

    You, my friend, are the liar here.

    You posted the ill effects of mountain biking and cited a story where the
    ill effect of murder is the real story.

    BS. Just look at the Subject. It tells the truth. When you said I
    lied, that was a lie. You have failed to quote any lie, because there
    ISN'T one! Except YOURS. LIAR.

    Which Subject line, yours or the story's.

    Your subject line is a crock of [censored], the story's subject line pulls one
    into the story, the story describes a murdered tourist and the circumstances
    surrounding his murder.

    Put your wife on the line, we need to talk to her. She should flee the
    apartment because you are losing your mind.

    The mountain biker that died in Bolivia was a murder victim. Read the story
    and get back to us. Give your wife the keys and some money and tell her to
    run out of there as fast as she can, or ask her to adjust your meds.

  17. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jeff Strickland said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:22:56 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >
    >"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:23:56 -0000, SGK <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Jul 11, 6:51 am, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>> So much for the alleged "health benefits" of this destructive
    >>>> sport....
    >>>>
    >>>> Mike
    >>>>
    >>>> In the News
    >>>> Posted AT 9:57 PM EDT on 26/02/07
    >>>>
    >>>> Body of Canadian cyclist found in Bolivia
    >>>> Associated Press
    >>>>
    >>>> LA PAZ - Bolivian police confirmed Monday that a body found in a
    >>>> ravine near a mountain pass above La Paz was that of a missing
    >>>> Canadian cyclist believed to have been travelling a nearby highway.
    >>>>
    >>>> An
    >>>> Update:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070709.wboliviac...
    >>>> Bolivia may have found clue in death of Canadian
    >>>> Associated Press
    >>>>
    >>>> July 9, 2007 at 11:45 PM EDT
    >>>>
    >>>> LA PAZ - Police raiding an apartment in Bolivia's capital found a
    >>>> mountain bike that may have belonged to a Canadian tourist found
    >>>> dead
    >>>> earlier this year, along with backpacks, passport and credits cards
    >>>> apparently stolen from tourists, authorities said.
    >>>>
    >>>> Simon Matthew Boily, 23, of Alma, Que., set out Jan. 21 to cycle
    >>>> down
    >>>> a treacherous mountain highway through the Andean foothills near La
    >>>> Paz. His body - but not his expensive mountain bike - was found a
    >>>> month later in a ravine near the road about 25 kilometres from the
    >>>> city.
    >>>>
    >>>> On Monday, Bolivian police executing a search warrant on a pair of
    >>>> suspected criminals' La Paz apartment found a bike similar to Mr.
    >>>> Boily's stashed along with an assortment of items apparently stolen
    >>>> from tourists. They also found marijuana and a .38-calibre pistol.
    >>>>
    >>>> "We suspect that [the bicycle] could belong to the Canadian tourist
    >>>> who died six months ago, also in a robbery," government prosecutor
    >>>> Alain Canedo said.
    >>>>
    >>>> Police had been initially unsure whether Mr. Boily's death was
    >>>> accidental or the result of foul play.
    >>>> Further investigation is still needed, however, before the bike can
    >>>> be
    >>>> definitively tied to Mr. Boily, officials said.
    >>>>
    >>>> The apartment's residents, whom police believe to be Peruvian, had
    >>>> fled before authorities arrived.
    >>>>
    >>>> Mr. Boily had planned to travel to the popular tourist town Coroico,
    >>>> about 50 kilometres northwest of La Paz, where he may have been
    >>>> seeking volunteer work, Canadian officials said.
    >>>>
    >>>> The La Paz-Coroico highway, known as the "Highway of Death" for its
    >>>> hairpin turns and precipitous drop-offs, has become a favourite with
    >>>> foreign cyclists though traffic wrecks along it have claimed
    >>>> hundreds
    >>>> of lives over the years.
    >>>> --
    >>>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    >>>> humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    >>>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
    >>>>
    >>>> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
    >>>> are
    >>>> fond of!
    >>>>
    >>>> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
    >>>
    >>>Some much for the "honesty" of Mike Vanderpants. Liar!
    >>
    >> What's the lie, liar?
    >
    >
    >
    >What's the lie? That's rich. Well, not rich, sad.
    >
    >The fact is, the mountain biker was riding his bike on the street --
    >where
    >you assert tht it belongs -- and he was kidnapped then killed then
    >tossed
    >off a cliff. His bicycle was stolen, along with his phone and credit
    >cards.

    So I repeat, where is the lie? I guess there wasn't one, since you
    didn't quote any, LIAR.
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
    fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    Please allow me to refresh your failing memory

    <quote>

    Quoted message said:

    >>>> So much for the alleged "health benefits" of this destructive
    >>>> sport....
    >>>>
    >>>> Mike


    </quote

    The "alleged" health benefits of biking is not the story here, the alleged
    health "benefit" of murder is the real story.

    The guy didn't die because his bike killed him, he died because robbers
    got
    to him. HE WAS MURDERED you moron.

    You don't know that, liar. But in any case, a lie is an assertion. My
    only assertion is in the Subject, which is CORRECT. Idiot.

    You're right, we don't KNOW that he was murdered. The story all but comes
    out and says it point blank, but we don't know.

    What we do know is that he set out to ride a mountain highway from Point A
    to Point B and never made to Point B, and his stuff was found months later
    in a place he had never been because he was killed before he got there. We
    know he was found dead at the bottom of a ravine about a month later, and
    that his bicycle was found along with his backpack, credit cards, and
    passport about 6 months later in an apartment in Point C that he never
    arrived at. In the apartment were the belongings of several other tourists.

    I'm okay with the characterization that he was murdered for his belongings,
    and that he did not fall off his bike at the top of the hill and roll to the
    bottom of a ravine while his bike remained at the top. It is quite a leap,
    but I'm going to take it -- he was stopped by robbers that killed him and
    took his stuff, which was later recovered and reported about in the story
    you posted.

  18. Jeff Strickland said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jeff Strickland said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:22:56 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
    > <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email hidden]...
    >>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:23:56 -0000, SGK <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Jul 11, 6:51 am, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>>> So much for the alleged "health benefits" of this destructive
    >>>>> sport....
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Mike
    >>>>>
    >>>>> In the News
    >>>>> Posted AT 9:57 PM EDT on 26/02/07
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Body of Canadian cyclist found in Bolivia
    >>>>> Associated Press
    >>>>>
    >>>>> LA PAZ - Bolivian police confirmed Monday that a body found in a
    >>>>> ravine near a mountain pass above La Paz was that of a missing
    >>>>> Canadian cyclist believed to have been travelling a nearby highway.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> An
    >>>>> Update:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070709.wboliviac...
    >>>>> Bolivia may have found clue in death of Canadian
    >>>>> Associated Press
    >>>>>
    >>>>> July 9, 2007 at 11:45 PM EDT
    >>>>>
    >>>>> LA PAZ - Police raiding an apartment in Bolivia's capital found a
    >>>>> mountain bike that may have belonged to a Canadian tourist found
    >>>>> dead
    >>>>> earlier this year, along with backpacks, passport and credits cards
    >>>>> apparently stolen from tourists, authorities said.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Simon Matthew Boily, 23, of Alma, Que., set out Jan. 21 to cycle
    >>>>> down
    >>>>> a treacherous mountain highway through the Andean foothills near La
    >>>>> Paz. His body - but not his expensive mountain bike - was found a
    >>>>> month later in a ravine near the road about 25 kilometres from the
    >>>>> city.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On Monday, Bolivian police executing a search warrant on a pair of
    >>>>> suspected criminals' La Paz apartment found a bike similar to Mr.
    >>>>> Boily's stashed along with an assortment of items apparently stolen
    >>>>> from tourists. They also found marijuana and a .38-calibre pistol.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "We suspect that [the bicycle] could belong to the Canadian tourist
    >>>>> who died six months ago, also in a robbery," government prosecutor
    >>>>> Alain Canedo said.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Police had been initially unsure whether Mr. Boily's death was
    >>>>> accidental or the result of foul play.
    >>>>> Further investigation is still needed, however, before the bike can
    >>>>> be
    >>>>> definitively tied to Mr. Boily, officials said.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The apartment's residents, whom police believe to be Peruvian, had
    >>>>> fled before authorities arrived.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Mr. Boily had planned to travel to the popular tourist town Coroico,
    >>>>> about 50 kilometres northwest of La Paz, where he may have been
    >>>>> seeking volunteer work, Canadian officials said.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The La Paz-Coroico highway, known as the "Highway of Death" for its
    >>>>> hairpin turns and precipitous drop-offs, has become a favourite with
    >>>>> foreign cyclists though traffic wrecks along it have claimed
    >>>>> hundreds
    >>>>> of lives over the years.
    >>>>> --
    >>>>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    >>>>> humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    >>>>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
    >>>>> are
    >>>>> fond of!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
    >>>>
    >>>>Some much for the "honesty" of Mike Vanderpants. Liar!
    >>>
    >>> What's the lie, liar?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>What's the lie? That's rich. Well, not rich, sad.
    >>
    >>The fact is, the mountain biker was riding his bike on the street --
    >>where
    >>you assert tht it belongs -- and he was kidnapped then killed then
    >>tossed
    >>off a cliff. His bicycle was stolen, along with his phone and credit
    >>cards.
    >
    > So I repeat, where is the lie? I guess there wasn't one, since you
    > didn't quote any, LIAR.
    > --
    > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    > humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
    >
    > Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
    > fond of!
    >
    > http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    Please allow me to refresh your failing memory

    <quote>
    >>>>> So much for the alleged "health benefits" of this destructive
    >>>>> sport....
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Mike
    </quote

    The "alleged" health benefits of biking is not the story here, the alleged
    health "benefit" of murder is the real story.

    The guy didn't die because his bike killed him, he died because robbers
    got
    to him. HE WAS MURDERED you moron.

    You don't know that, liar. But in any case, a lie is an assertion. My
    only assertion is in the Subject, which is CORRECT. Idiot.

    You're right, we don't KNOW that he was murdered. The story all but comes
    out and says it point blank, but we don't know.

    What we do know is that he set out to ride a mountain highway from Point A
    to Point B and never made to Point B, and his stuff was found months later
    in a place he had never been because he was killed before he got there. We
    know he was found dead at the bottom of a ravine about a month later, and
    that his bicycle was found along with his backpack, credit cards, and
    passport about 6 months later in an apartment in Point C that he never
    arrived at. In the apartment were the belongings of several other tourists.

    I'm okay with the characterization that he was murdered for his belongings,
    and that he did not fall off his bike at the top of the hill and roll to the
    bottom of a ravine while his bike remained at the top. It is quite a leap,
    but I'm going to take it -- he was stopped by robbers that killed him and
    took his stuff, which was later recovered and reported about in the story
    you posted.

    So what? There's still no "lie".
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  19. Jeff Strickland said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jeff Strickland said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    >>
    >>I am far too grandiose to have an inferiority complex, especially one
    >>inflicted by the likes of Michael J Vandeman.
    >
    > No, you aren't smart enough to have an inferiority complex. You are
    > just plain inferior. And a LIAR.

    You, my friend, are the liar here.

    You posted the ill effects of mountain biking and cited a story where the
    ill effect of murder is the real story.

    BS. Just look at the Subject. It tells the truth. When you said I
    lied, that was a lie. You have failed to quote any lie, because there
    ISN'T one! Except YOURS. LIAR.

    Which Subject line, yours or the story's.

    Your subject line is a crock of [censored],

    What's wrong with this?: "ANOTHER Mountain Biker Dies -- in Bolivia".
    It's a FACT.

    the story's subject line pulls one

    Quoted message said:

    into the story, the story describes a murdered tourist and the circumstances
    surrounding his murder.

    Put your wife on the line, we need to talk to her. She should flee the
    apartment because you are losing your mind.

    The mountain biker that died in Bolivia was a murder victim. Read the story
    and get back to us. Give your wife the keys and some money and tell her to
    run out of there as fast as she can, or ask her to adjust your meds.


    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  20. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    What's wrong with this?: "ANOTHER Mountain Biker Dies -- in Bolivia".
    It's a FACT.

    He didn't die, he was MURDERED.

    Ironically, he was riding his mountain bike on the street where you assert
    is the only place where any bicycle belongs. Here is an example of a
    mountain bike rider that is actually doing what you think he should be
    doing -- riding on pavement -- and you select the story of his MURDER to
    promote your agenda of highlighting the dangers of the sport.

    Put your wife on the line, she's in danger ...

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