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  1. So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!

    Mike

    http://www.venturacountystar.com/vcs/county_news/article/0,1375,VCS_226_5264484,00.html:

    January 8, 2007

    OJAI

    Mountain biker found dead is identified

    Officials with the Ventura County Medical Examiner-Coroner's Office
    identified a mountain biker found dead this weekend as James Ross, 54,
    of Ojai.

    Officials completed an autopsy, but the cause of death is still under
    investigation, Mike Feiler, senior deputy medical examiner, said
    Sunday.

    Natural causes are the most likely explanation because there was no
    sign of trauma, Feiler said. Authorities withheld judgment until they
    could reach the man's physicians for more information, Feiler said.

    Ross was found near his mountain bike about half a mile up the Gridley
    Road Trail in Ojai on Saturday.

    Authorities believe that he died between 1 and 2:30 p.m., Feiler said.
    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  2. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!

    Mike


    Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will ever
    get out of here alive.

  3. On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!

    Mike


    Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will ever
    get out of here alive.

    You can leave whenever you like, but you don't have the right to take
    wildlife with you.
    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  4. Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!

    Mike


    Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will
    ever get out of here alive.

    You can leave whenever you like, but you don't have the right to take
    wildlife with you.

    Sure we do, we are the top of the food chain. Ever try whipsnake ??
    Mighty tasty, I killed two, burned one up completely in the fire, the
    other was very good.

    Quoted message said:

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
    are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  5. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!

    Mike

    More proof that mountain biking and hiking are similar.
    CONCORD, N.H. --Heart disease led to the death of a hiker who collapsed off
    the south side of Mount Sunapee, the state Medical Examiner's determined
    Monday.

    D. L******* of Concord, 56, was an experienced hiker. He had trekked 4 1/2
    miles on the Monadnock-Sunapee Greenway Trail that snaked up the back side
    of the 2,726-foot mountain on Sunday.

    L******* collapsed just north of Lucia's Lookout, about 4.5 miles south of
    the Newbury Trail trailhead near Lake Sunapee. The state Medical Examiner's
    office determined that L******* died suddenly of complications from heart
    disease.

  6. On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!

    Mike


    Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will ever
    get out of here alive.

    All the more reason to live in a way that you can be proud of, instead
    of selfishly abusing people and wildlife for cheap thrills such as
    mountain biking.
    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  7. \On 09 Jan 2007 16:30:33 GMT, Ale Brewer <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
    >
    > Mike
    >
    >
    Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will
    ever get out of here alive.

    You can leave whenever you like, but you don't have the right to take
    wildlife with you.

    Sure we do, we are the top of the food chain. Ever try whipsnake ??
    Mighty tasty, I killed two, burned one up completely in the fire, the
    other was very good.

    Thanks for demonstrating what the typical mountain biker attitude is:
    you are the only one who matters.
    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  8. Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    \On 09 Jan 2007 16:30:33 GMT, Ale Brewer <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    >
    >"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >> So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
    >>
    >> Mike
    >>
    >>
    >Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us
    >will ever get out of here alive.

    You can leave whenever you like, but you don't have the right to
    take wildlife with you.

    Sure we do, we are the top of the food chain. Ever try whipsnake ??
    Mighty tasty, I killed two, burned one up completely in the fire,
    the other was very good.

    Thanks for demonstrating what the typical mountain biker attitude is:
    you are the only one who matters.

    Hell yeah, we are the only ones who matters. No one gives a [censored] about
    you and your stupid ideas/thoughts.

    I truly enjoy poking a stick at the gullible troll. I will next poke fun
    of your smushed cat that Im sure you believe a mountain biker ran over.

    Hey, BTW, can you post a picture of your 20 x 20 "pure habitat" (aka your
    back yard)

    This is just way too easy

    Quoted message said:

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
    are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  9. Mike Vandeman said:

    On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!

    Mike


    Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will ever
    get out of here alive.

    All the more reason to live in a way that you can be proud of, instead
    of selfishly abusing people and wildlife for cheap thrills such as
    mountain biking.

    or troll-bashing? what's wrong with cheap thrills?

  10. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!

    Mike


    Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will


    ever

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    get out of here alive.

    All the more reason to live in a way that you can be proud of, instead
    of selfishly abusing people and wildlife for cheap thrills such as
    mountain biking.

    Are your family members equally proud of your decades-long obsession, Mike?

    Or, as seems much more likely, do they express concern that you're wasting
    your life and that you may have a mental illness? Have they ever
    recommended that you speak with a mental health professional?

    Do you have any close friends and/or lovers in the real world? Or, is this
    your real world?

    GG

    Quoted message said:

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are


    fond of!

    Quoted message said:


    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  11. GaryG said:

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
    >
    > Mike
    >
    >
    Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will


    ever

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    get out of here alive.


    All the more reason to live in a way that you can be proud of, instead
    of selfishly abusing people and wildlife for cheap thrills such as
    mountain biking.

    Are your family members equally proud of your decades-long obsession, Mike?

    If they cared enough, they held an intervention. He obviously refused help.

    Quoted message said:


    Or, as seems much more likely, do they express concern that you're wasting
    your life and that you may have a mental illness? Have they ever
    recommended that you speak with a mental health professional?

    Yes, but he was probably diagnosed too late, and therefore thought his
    maniacal obsessions were "normal".

    Quoted message said:


    Do you have any close friends and/or lovers in the real world?

    Obviously not, since the death of his cat.

    Or, is this

    Quoted message said:

    your real world?

    GG

    Quoted message said:

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are


    fond of!

    Quoted message said:

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  12. On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:59:00 -0800, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
    >
    > Mike
    >
    >
    Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will


    ever

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    get out of here alive.

    All the more reason to live in a way that you can be proud of, instead
    of selfishly abusing people and wildlife for cheap thrills such as
    mountain biking.

    Are your family members equally proud of your decades-long obsession, Mike?

    Or, as seems much more likely, do they express concern that you're wasting
    your life and that you may have a mental illness? Have they ever
    recommended that you speak with a mental health professional?

    Do you have any close friends and/or lovers in the real world? Or, is this
    your real world?

    GG

    Quoted message said:

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are


    fond of!

    Quoted message said:


    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    Did you say something?
    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  13. Mike Vandeman said:

    On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!

    Mike


    Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will ever
    get out of here alive.

    You can leave whenever you like, but you don't have the right to take
    wildlife with you.

    Looks to me like you're enjoying the use of 'electricity'. Certainly,
    no wildlife has ever been harmed by the building of power plants, eh?

    Quoted message said:

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  14. On 14 Jan 2007 15:53:33 -0800, "haubrey" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    Mike Vandeman said:

    On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
    >
    > Mike
    >
    >
    Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will ever
    get out of here alive.

    You can leave whenever you like, but you don't have the right to take
    wildlife with you.

    Looks to me like you're enjoying the use of 'electricity'. Certainly,
    no wildlife has ever been harmed by the building of power plants, eh?

    If you weren't using electricity to make that statement, it might mean
    something. Hypocrite.
    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  15. Mike Vandeman said:

    On 14 Jan 2007 15:53:33 -0800, "haubrey" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    Mike Vandeman said:

    On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    >
    >"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >> So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
    >>
    >> Mike
    >>
    >>
    >Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will ever
    >get out of here alive.

    You can leave whenever you like, but you don't have the right to take
    wildlife with you.

    Looks to me like you're enjoying the use of 'electricity'. Certainly,
    no wildlife has ever been harmed by the building of power plants, eh?

    If you weren't using electricity to make that statement, it might mean
    something. Hypocrite.

    Yes indeed, you are a hypocrite. Standing on your soapbox whining
    about others harming the environment, and doing the same yourself. How
    pathetic. Do the men in white coats know your missing?

    Quoted message said:

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  16. Mike Vandeman said:

    On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:59:00 -0800, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    > "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    >> So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
    >>
    >> Mike
    >>
    >>
    > Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will


    ever

    Quoted message said:

    > get out of here alive.
    All the more reason to live in a way that you can be proud of, instead
    of selfishly abusing people and wildlife for cheap thrills such as
    mountain biking.


    Are your family members equally proud of your decades-long obsession, Mike?

    Or, as seems much more likely, do they express concern that you're wasting
    your life and that you may have a mental illness? Have they ever
    recommended that you speak with a mental health professional?

    Do you have any close friends and/or lovers in the real world? Or, is this
    your real world?

    GG

    Quoted message said:

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are


    fond of!

    Quoted message said:

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


    Did you say something?

    Classic denial.

  17. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:59:00 -0800, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    >
    >"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >> So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
    >>
    >> Mike
    >>
    >>
    >Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will


    ever

    Quoted message said:

    >get out of here alive.

    All the more reason to live in a way that you can be proud of, instead
    of selfishly abusing people and wildlife for cheap thrills such as
    mountain biking.

    Are your family members equally proud of your decades-long obsession,


    Mike?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Or, as seems much more likely, do they express concern that you're


    wasting

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    your life and that you may have a mental illness? Have they ever
    recommended that you speak with a mental health professional?

    Do you have any close friends and/or lovers in the real world? Or, is


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    your real world?

    GG

    Quoted message said:

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fond of!

    Quoted message said:


    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    Did you say something?

    Yes...it's a shame that your mental state precludes you from hearing.

    Have any of your family members expressed concern with your obsessions
    regarding the deaths of mountain bikers? Do they know that you post them as
    "evidence" of the evil of mountain biking? If so, do they support your
    behavior and your quest? Or, do they express concern for your mental
    well-being?

    I would be very surprised if you haven't alienated yourself from your former
    friends and family. The fact that you never mention anyone else in your
    posts (or answer questions about your friends or family) leads me to believe
    that you are an isolated, lonely, bitter person who suffers deeply in an
    obsessive attempt to suppress what you wrongly perceive as an evil force.
    You're deluded, of course, but until you seek help you'll never be able to
    see that.

    GG

    Quoted message said:

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are


    fond of!

    Quoted message said:


    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  18. On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:03:01 -0800, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:59:00 -0800, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > >news:[email hidden]...
    > >> So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
    > >>
    > >> Mike
    > >>
    > >>
    > >Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will
    ever
    > >get out of here alive.
    >
    > All the more reason to live in a way that you can be proud of, instead
    > of selfishly abusing people and wildlife for cheap thrills such as
    > mountain biking.

    Are your family members equally proud of your decades-long obsession,


    Mike?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Or, as seems much more likely, do they express concern that you're


    wasting

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    your life and that you may have a mental illness? Have they ever
    recommended that you speak with a mental health professional?

    Do you have any close friends and/or lovers in the real world? Or, is


    this

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    your real world?

    GG

    > ===
    > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    > humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
    >
    > Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fond of!
    >
    > http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    Did you say something?

    Yes...it's a shame that your mental state precludes you from hearing.

    Have any of your family members expressed concern with your obsessions
    regarding the deaths of mountain bikers? Do they know that you post them as
    "evidence" of the evil of mountain biking? If so, do they support your
    behavior and your quest? Or, do they express concern for your mental
    well-being?

    I would be very surprised if you haven't alienated yourself from your former
    friends and family. The fact that you never mention anyone else in your
    posts (or answer questions about your friends or family) leads me to believe
    that you are an isolated, lonely, bitter person who suffers deeply in an
    obsessive attempt to suppress what you wrongly perceive as an evil force.
    You're deluded, of course, but until you seek help you'll never be able to
    see that.

    GG

    Quoted message said:

    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are


    fond of!

    Quoted message said:


    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande


    That's nice.
    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  19. On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[email hidden]> said
    in <9rGoh.583391$1T2.148815@pd7urf2no>:

    Quoted message said:

    Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will ever
    get out of here alive.

    True, but unlike Mike we may not get there morally bankrupt.

    Guy
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