ANOTHER Mountain Biker Death

Mike Vandeman said:

\Apparently, the health benefits of mountain biking are exaggerated.
<snip!>

Whoopee. 1.2 million people per annum are killed by cars and this is the
best you can come up with? According to my calculator (unless I've
slipped a decimal point) that's around 33,000 people A DAY. Get real.

ray ??? said:

Mike Vandeman said:

\Apparently, the health benefits of mountain biking are exaggerated.
<snip!>

Whoopee. 1.2 million people per annum are killed by cars and this is the
best you can come up with? According to my calculator (unless I've
slipped a decimal point) that's around 33,000 people A DAY.

Note that Mike Janelle's death had nothing to do with off-road bicycle
racing, and was in all likelihood the result of a genetic heart defect.

Quoted message said:

Get real.

This is Vanderspam we are talking about here.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

Mike Vandeman said:

\Apparently, the health benefits of mountain biking are exaggerated.

Mike

http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_7566275:

Shock over death of pro mountain biker Janelle

Apparently the health benefits of hiking are greatly exaggerated.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_7572777

Hey, it's also in the Denver Post, Mikey.

Per Siskuwihane:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

\Apparently, the health benefits of mountain biking are exaggerated.

Mike

http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_7566275:

Shock over death of pro mountain biker Janelle

Rubbish.

If somebody has high enough cholesterol, they're pretty much
doomed.... period - or at least they were back in 1994 when I got
my little up-close look.

Maybe there are interventions available now that weren't around
then, but unless somebody knows of their situation it's still
moot.

Damn, I thought I had that guy kill-filed.

--
PeteCresswell

You poor, sick [censored].

Mike Vandeman said:

\Apparently, the health benefits of mountain biking are exaggerated.

Mike

http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_7566275:

Shock over death of pro mountain biker Janelle
By Scott Willoughby
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 11/27/2007 12:05:47 AM MST

Mike Janelle was a three-time Race Across America
team champion and just a month ago won the 24
Hours of Moab with his teammate Nat Ross. (Scott
Willoughby, The Denver Post )Three-time Race
Across America team champion and all-around
Colorado cycling marvel Mike Janelle died
abruptly of an apparent heart attack at his home
in Avon early Friday morning. An autopsy is
underway to determine the exact cause of death to
the 40-year-old pro mountain bike racer and Tokyo
Joe's/Gary Fisher team rider.

"Everyone is completely shocked," said longtime
friend and riding companion Kelli Anthony Rohrig.
Only a month earlier, Janelle and teammate Nat
Ross had won the two-man team division of the
grueling 24 Hours of Moab endurance mountain bike
race.

A professional mountain bike racer since 1996 and
elite road cyclist since 1988, Janelle focused
primarily on endurance mountain bike events,
representing the U.S. at

the UCI world marathon championships in 2005, the
same year he won his first 24 Hours of Moab event
with teammate Jay Henry of Vail. He finished
fifth at the USA Cycling marathon national
championships won by Henry in Breckenridge on
July 4 and was an equally strong competitor on a
road bike.
Janelle was considered a driving force behind
Team Beaver Creek-Catlin, racing alongside
friends Ross, Jimi Mortensen and Zach Bingham to
a third consecutive victory in the four-man team
category of the 3,000-mile Race Across America in
June.

Known for his wide smile, charisma and dedication
to cycling, Janelle worked as a ski instructor at
Beaver Creek Resort in the winter, regularly
riding his bike to work.

"He just loved to be on a bike," Rohrig said.

Born of Native American descent in Chickasha,
Okla., Janelle spent most of his life in
Colorado, living in Eagle County for 23 years.
His wife, Mirabel, is currently pregnant with the
couple's first child.

Friends and family held a memorial service in
Janelle's honor at the Vilar Center at Beaver
Creek on Monday night.

Scott Willoughby: 303-954-1993 or
[email hidden]
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It may not be the healthiest sport around, but it sure is healthier
than posting almost 60,000 times to the usenet, at least mountain
bikers have a life!

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:22:10 +1100, ray <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Mike Vandeman said:

\Apparently, the health benefits of mountain biking are exaggerated.
<snip!>

Whoopee. 1.2 million people per annum are killed by cars and this is the
best you can come up with? According to my calculator (unless I've
slipped a decimal point) that's around 33,000 people A DAY. Get real.

I guess I care more about mountain bikers' safety than they themselves
do. . . . I wonder why they want to sweep this information under the
carpet? . . .
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Tom Sherman said:

ray ??? said:

Mike Vandeman said:

\Apparently, the health benefits of mountain biking are exaggerated.
<snip!>

Whoopee. 1.2 million people per annum are killed by cars and this is the
best you can come up with? According to my calculator (unless I've
slipped a decimal point) that's around 33,000 people A DAY.

Note that Mike Janelle's death had nothing to do with off-road bicycle
racing, and was in all likelihood the result of a genetic heart defect.

FABRICATING information again, Tom? You have absolutely no evidence,
just your own speculation. WHATEVER happens to him obviously has A LOT
to do with his profession, since he spends so much time at it. DUH! If
mountain biking improves health, on average, this shouldn't happen.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Get real.

This is Vanderspam we are talking about here.

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Jeff Strickland said:

You poor, sick [censored].

Obviously, I care more about mountain bikers' safety than they
themselves do! YOU are the sick one.
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"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Jeff Strickland said:

You poor, sick [censored].

Obviously, I care more about mountain bikers' safety than they
themselves do! YOU are the sick one.

His sport is not what killed him ignorant [censored]. Indeed, he had an unnamed
medical condition that caused his health problem which tok his life, and
riding a bike may have extended his life by several years. Exercise is good.
It is always good. But, "healthy" people die despite an active lifestyle.

So, I repeat, you poor sick [censored]. You do not care about anything or
anybody unless they or it falls lock-step into line with your selfish
agenda.

Mike Vandeman said:

\Apparently, the health benefits of mountain biking are exaggerated.

Mike,

Did you have the same response about the health benefits of running
when Jim Fixx died?

[censored] Durbin

Or how about road cycling when Ed Burke (the well known sports physiologist)
died of a massive heart attack (congential heart problem) during one of his
favorite road loops above Colorado Springs a few years back.

Rick

Mike Vandeman said:

Tom Sherman said:

ray ??? said:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> \Apparently, the health benefits of mountain biking are exaggerated.
> <snip!>
Whoopee. 1.2 million people per annum are killed by cars and this is the
best you can come up with? According to my calculator (unless I've
slipped a decimal point) that's around 33,000 people A DAY.

Note that Mike Janelle's death had nothing to do with off-road bicycle
racing, and was in all likelihood the result of a genetic heart defect.

FABRICATING information again, Tom? You have absolutely no evidence,
just your own speculation.

Did I present it as fact or hypothesis? I see Mr. Vandeman is having
problems with English reading comprehension.

Quoted message said:

WHATEVER happens to him obviously has A LOT
to do with his profession, since he spends so much time at it. DUH! If
mountain biking improves health, on average, this shouldn't happen.

When did Mr. Vandeman become a cardiologist? Note that Mr. Vandeman is
doing exactly what he falsely accused me of - presenting speculation as
fact.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

bluezfolk said:

Mike Vandeman said:

\Apparently, the health benefits of mountain biking are exaggerated.

Mike

http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_7566275:

Shock over death of pro mountain biker Janelle
By Scott Willoughby
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 11/27/2007 12:05:47 AM MST

Mike Janelle was a three-time Race Across America
team champion and just a month ago won the 24
Hours of Moab with his teammate Nat Ross. (Scott
Willoughby, The Denver Post )Three-time Race
Across America team champion and all-around
Colorado cycling marvel Mike Janelle died
abruptly of an apparent heart attack at his home
in Avon early Friday morning. An autopsy is
underway to determine the exact cause of death to
the 40-year-old pro mountain bike racer and Tokyo
Joe's/Gary Fisher team rider.

"Everyone is completely shocked," said longtime
friend and riding companion Kelli Anthony Rohrig.
Only a month earlier, Janelle and teammate Nat
Ross had won the two-man team division of the
grueling 24 Hours of Moab endurance mountain bike
race.

A professional mountain bike racer since 1996 and
elite road cyclist since 1988, Janelle focused
primarily on endurance mountain bike events,
representing the U.S. at

the UCI world marathon championships in 2005, the
same year he won his first 24 Hours of Moab event
with teammate Jay Henry of Vail. He finished
fifth at the USA Cycling marathon national
championships won by Henry in Breckenridge on
July 4 and was an equally strong competitor on a
road bike.
Janelle was considered a driving force behind
Team Beaver Creek-Catlin, racing alongside
friends Ross, Jimi Mortensen and Zach Bingham to
a third consecutive victory in the four-man team
category of the 3,000-mile Race Across America in
June.

Known for his wide smile, charisma and dedication
to cycling, Janelle worked as a ski instructor at
Beaver Creek Resort in the winter, regularly
riding his bike to work.

"He just loved to be on a bike," Rohrig said.

Born of Native American descent in Chickasha,
Okla., Janelle spent most of his life in
Colorado, living in Eagle County for 23 years.
His wife, Mirabel, is currently pregnant with the
couple's first child.

Friends and family held a memorial service in
Janelle's honor at the Vilar Center at Beaver
Creek on Monday night.

Scott Willoughby: 303-954-1993 or
[email hidden]
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

It may not be the healthiest sport around, but it sure is healthier
than posting almost 60,000 times to the usenet, at least mountain
bikers have a life!

Or a death, as the case may be. Or quadriplegic. Whatever.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Tom Sherman said:

Mike Vandeman said:

Tom Sherman said:

ray ??? wrote:
> Mike Vandeman wrote:
>> \Apparently, the health benefits of mountain biking are exaggerated.
>> <snip!>
> Whoopee. 1.2 million people per annum are killed by cars and this is the
> best you can come up with? According to my calculator (unless I've
> slipped a decimal point) that's around 33,000 people A DAY.
Note that Mike Janelle's death had nothing to do with off-road bicycle
racing, and was in all likelihood the result of a genetic heart defect.

FABRICATING information again, Tom? You have absolutely no evidence,
just your own speculation.

Did I present it as fact or hypothesis? I see Mr. Vandeman is having
problems with English reading comprehension.

Quoted message said:

WHATEVER happens to him obviously has A LOT
to do with his profession, since he spends so much time at it. DUH! If
mountain biking improves health, on average, this shouldn't happen.

When did Mr. Vandeman become a cardiologist? Note that Mr. Vandeman is
doing exactly what he falsely accused me of - presenting speculation as
fact.

Yawn.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Jeff Strickland said:

"Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Jeff Strickland said:

You poor, sick [censored].

Obviously, I care more about mountain bikers' safety than they
themselves do! YOU are the sick one.

His sport is not what killed him ignorant [censored]. Indeed, he had an unnamed
medical condition that caused his health problem which tok his life,

Fabricating evidence that you don't have again? You have ZERO
information. In fact, LESS than zero.

and

Quoted message said:

riding a bike may have extended his life by several years. Exercise is good.
It is always good. But, "healthy" people die despite an active lifestyle.

So, I repeat, you poor sick [censored]. You do not care about anything or
anybody unless they or it falls lock-step into line with your selfish
agenda.

--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:53:31 -0800 (PST), Olebiker <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Mike Vandeman said:

\Apparently, the health benefits of mountain biking are exaggerated.

Mike,

Did you have the same response about the health benefits of running
when Jim Fixx died?

No, I've never claimed any health benefits from running, and I don't
know that there IS any net benefit.

Quoted message said:

[censored] Durbin

--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Quoted message said:

Or how about road cycling when Ed Burke (the well known sports physiologist)
died of a massive heart attack (congential heart problem) during one of his
favorite road loops above Colorado Springs a few years back.

No, I've never claimed any net health benefit from road bicycling.

Quoted message said:

Rick

--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Mike Vandeman said:

Tom Sherman said:

Mike Vandeman said:

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:10:53 -0600, Tom Sherman
<[email hidden]> wrote:

> ray ??? wrote:
>> Mike Vandeman wrote:
>>> \Apparently, the health benefits of mountain biking are exaggerated.
>>> <snip!>
>> Whoopee. 1.2 million people per annum are killed by cars and this is the
>> best you can come up with? According to my calculator (unless I've
>> slipped a decimal point) that's around 33,000 people A DAY.
> Note that Mike Janelle's death had nothing to do with off-road bicycle
> racing, and was in all likelihood the result of a genetic heart defect.
FABRICATING information again, Tom? You have absolutely no evidence,
just your own speculation.

Did I present it as fact or hypothesis? I see Mr. Vandeman is having
problems with English reading comprehension.

Quoted message said:

WHATEVER happens to him obviously has A LOT
to do with his profession, since he spends so much time at it. DUH! If
mountain biking improves health, on average, this shouldn't happen.

When did Mr. Vandeman become a cardiologist? Note that Mr. Vandeman is
doing exactly what he falsely accused me of - presenting speculation as
fact.

Yawn.

Loss of words when someone points out your errors, eh Mikey?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter