Another death caused by doping?

Clint Curtis, who coached the Barloworld rider when he was a junior, said on Tuesday Cox had been having problems with his left leg for some time.

"He sometimes lost the feeling in the leg after cycling and had little power in the leg towards the end of some races.

"Ryan then went to see one of the leading doctors in France. It was found that the artery had, as a consequence of all the cycling, become knotted as sometimes happens to a garden hose. "It often happens to cyclists because they spend so many hours on the bicycles, with their legs bent while pedalling.

According to the radio station doctors battled for over an hour to try and save Cox's life.

Cox had been fighting for his life since Monday after suffering a major heart attack when an artery burst.
The 28-year-old cyclist then had to undergo emergency surgery, but his heart stopped three times before the doctors started the operation.
Cox underwent a vascular lesion operation in Europe on July 4 and returned to South Africa to recuperate.

Klodifan said:

I was just on CH's web site and read about Ryan Cox's death. He was on barloworld. so, so sad. was it because of ped abuse? anyone familiar with vascular lesion operations?

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Sounds like he had surgery to fix his femoral artery. It isn't uncommon to have problems with blood flow due to problems with this artery and a surgery to fix it. I remember reading of other pros having it and I know someone who had it done. Sounds like the graft or something didn't hold up and he bled to death.

Stuart O'Grady had the same problem a few years back and had the surgery. Charles Dionne (with Saunier-Duval last year) had the surgery too.

I think Irish national rr champion Ciaran Power also had the same operation.

PEDs don't usually killed people. There's literally millions of people doing PEDs and, if they were as lethal as people would like to think, then, where are all the bodies?

helmutRoole2 said:

I think Irish national rr champion Ciaran Power also had the same operation.

PEDs don't usually killed people. There's literally millions of people doing PEDs and, if they were as lethal as people would like to think, then, where are all the bodies?

There are also millions of people riding bikes, and if having bents legs from pedaling all day causes artery constriction, then where are all the bodies.

jsull14 said:

There are also millions of people riding bikes, and if having bents legs from pedaling all day causes artery constriction, then where are all the bodies.

You know, that sounds pretty good, and if it only made sense you might have something there.

You want to explain what it is you're failing to express?

In may or june I published a few short messages about Cox health problems in the cyclingheroes flash news. I will try to find them tomorrow (they ar at the archive on the website...but I am very tired..now...eat something and then sleep...)

By the way, Stuart O' Grady had the same problem and was operated by the same French doctor as Cox was (on July 4)

lucybears said:

Clint Curtis, who coached the Barloworld rider when he was a junior, said on Tuesday Cox had been having problems with his left leg for some time.

"He sometimes lost the feeling in the leg after cycling and had little power in the leg towards the end of some races.

"Ryan then went to see one of the leading doctors in France. It was found that the artery had, as a consequence of all the cycling, become knotted as sometimes happens to a garden hose. "It often happens to cyclists because they spend so many hours on the bicycles, with their legs bent while pedalling.

According to the radio station doctors battled for over an hour to try and save Cox's life.

Cox had been fighting for his life since Monday after suffering a major heart attack when an artery burst.
The 28-year-old cyclist then had to undergo emergency surgery, but his heart stopped three times before the doctors started the operation.
Cox underwent a vascular lesion operation in Europe on July 4 and returned to South Africa to recuperate.

helmutRoole2 said:

You know, that sounds pretty good, and if it only made sense you might have something there.

You want to explain what it is you're failing to express?

Dude, chill or I'll sick Doctor House on you. You are insinuating that PEDs don't usually kill people, and I'm saying that riding a bike (which is what they are saying is the cause of his artery issue) doesn't usually kill a person.

jsull14 said:

There are also millions of people riding bikes, and if having bents legs from pedaling all day causes artery constriction, then where are all the bodies.

How many people who have this surgery, check out of the hospital early, fly back home and then start nearly normal activity before they are cleared for any of that?

It sucks he died and I feel for his family, friends and team, but he made some really stupid choices.

I also think the title of this thread is a bit of a joke. A guy dies and instantly someone turns it into a doping thread.

jsull14 said:

Dude, chill or I'll sick Doctor House on you. You are insinuating that PEDs don't usually kill people, and I'm saying that riding a bike (which is what they are saying is the cause of his artery issue) doesn't usually kill a person.

Oh man, my bad. I was on the attack. I'll admit it.

Maison said:

I also think the title of this thread is a bit of a joke. A guy dies and instantly someone turns it into a doping thread.

Hold on. I think we need to start a new thread because I really think there's some relation between PEDs and JFKs assassination.

Humility shocker in Grand Tours thread. What's going on here?

helmutRoole2 said:

Oh man, my bad. I was on the attack. I'll admit it.

Gregers said:

Humility shocker in Grand Tours thread. What's going on here?

I really had some zingers set to go too. I was just waiting for his response before the real fireworks. Then to find out, okay, you're agreeing with me. [censored].

There'll be new opportunities soon enough. I believe that Saluki posts quite often.

helmutRoole2 said:

I really had some zingers set to go too. I was just waiting for his response before the real fireworks. Then to find out, okay, you're agreeing with me. [censored].

My interpretation of the issue is that it has nothing to do with doping. It was a vascular op to correct an arterial entrapment that went terribly wrong in the recovery phase. Probably there was an infection of the wound or something unlucky.

Im memoriam: picture gallery Ryan Cox
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Baden Cooke has also had the same operation. A doctor who used to ride with us in our club said, after Stuey's op that the artery blockage is a side effect of EPO use. Make of it what you want, i am certainly not suggesting this is absolute fact, BUT....🙄

leestevens said:

Baden Cooke has also had the same operation. A doctor who used to ride with us in our club said, after Stuey's op that the artery blockage is a side effect of EPO use. Make of it what you want, i am certainly not suggesting this is absolute fact, BUT....🙄

Of course it is IMO. To say this blockage is because of pedaling a bike rivals Tyler's twin as the lamest excuse ever. Otherwise we should all hang up the carbon-soled shoes.

leestevens said:

Baden Cooke has also had the same operation. A doctor who used to ride with us in our club said, after Stuey's op that the artery blockage is a side effect of EPO use. Make of it what you want, i am certainly not suggesting this is absolute fact, BUT....🙄

Unfortunately it also occurs in people who train hard but have never used EPO, so that isn't a very good theory. It is actually a build up of scar tissue in the artery wall causing narrowing - one theory has it that this is due to repeated microtrauma during training.