Anger trigger to heart disease found?

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Anger trigger to heart disease found?

Anger and hostility trigger the production of blood proteins involved
in inflammation, researchers have found - for the first time making a
physiological link between the emotional state and heart disease.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s915243.htm

That does not sound like news to me. Angry people have been falling like
flies for years from heart attacks and strokes.
My granny used to tell people to calm down or you'll have a heart attack.
Derek.

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Anger trigger to heart disease found?

Anger and hostility trigger the production of blood proteins involved
in inflammation, researchers have found - for the first time making a
physiological link between the emotional state and heart disease.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s915243.htm

That does not sound like news to me. Angry people have been falling like
flies for years from heart attacks and strokes.
My granny used to tell people to calm down or you'll have a heart attack.
Derek.

Perhaps you should read the "news" again. Did your granny know about
the "inflammation protein". That's the "news".

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Anger trigger to heart disease found?

Anger and hostility trigger the production of blood proteins

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in inflammation, researchers have found - for the first time

making a

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physiological link between the emotional state and heart disease.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s915243.htm

That does not sound like news to me. Angry people have been falling

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flies for years from heart attacks and strokes.
My granny used to tell people to calm down or you'll have a heart

attack.

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Derek.

Perhaps you should read the "news" again. Did your granny know about
the "inflammation protein". That's the "news".

Missed your point.
Granny was: stress/anger >>>>>>heart disease
News is: stress/anger>>>>>>immune system>>>>>>inflammation
proteins>>>>>>heart disease.
Is identifying the probable root cause not useful clarification?
Mike

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On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 17:51:19 +0100, "Derek F"
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Thought the following news story might be of interest to your list:

Anger trigger to heart disease found?

Anger and hostility trigger the production of blood proteins involved
in inflammation, researchers have found - for the first time making a
physiological link between the emotional state and heart disease.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s915243.htm

That does not sound like news to me. Angry people have been falling like
flies for years from heart attacks and strokes.
My granny used to tell people to calm down or you'll have a heart attack.
Derek.

Perhaps you should read the "news" again. Did your granny know about
the "inflammation protein". That's the "news".

She didn't need to know why just that it happened.
Derek.

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On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 01:18:31 +0100, "Derek F"
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 17:51:19 +0100, "Derek F"
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>That does not sound like news to me. Angry people have been falling

like

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>flies for years from heart attacks and strokes.
>My granny used to tell people to calm down or you'll have a heart

attack.

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>Derek.
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Perhaps you should read the "news" again. Did your granny know about
the "inflammation protein". That's the "news".

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She didn't need to know why just that it happened.

That's fine, but that is not the news that you appeared to rubbish.

I do not rubbish it but every day scientists come out with discoveries that
are certainly not new. Many just confirm what tribes people knew and used
hundreds of years ago others just take up forgotten themes. I read about a
very similar test for 'inflammation protein in a headlined front page
article in the local press when I was on holiday in San Francisco many years
ago. I actually kept the page for reference for some years as it looked as
if the company behind it might be an investment opportunity but nothing
seemed to come of it.
Derek.

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 10:23:12 +0100, "Derek F"
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 01:18:31 +0100, "Derek F"
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> On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 17:51:19 +0100, "Derek F"
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> >That does not sound like news to me. Angry people have been falling

like

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> >My granny used to tell people to calm down or you'll have a heart

attack.

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> Perhaps you should read the "news" again. Did your granny know about
> the "inflammation protein". That's the "news".

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She didn't need to know why just that it happened.

That's fine, but that is not the news that you appeared to rubbish.

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I do not rubbish it but every day scientists come out with discoveries that
are certainly not new.

Well according to the often wrong beat-ups of the popular press.

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Many just confirm what tribes people knew and used
hundreds of years ago others just take up forgotten themes.

Yes, often according to the popular press only. I've heard repeated
adnauseum reports that potassium CHLORIDE was found at the Jakarta
bomb site.

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I read about a
very similar test for 'inflammation protein in a headlined front page
article in the local press when I was on holiday in San Francisco many years
ago.

The only way to see what is different is to read both papers, IME.

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I actually kept the page for reference for some years as it looked as
if the company behind it might be an investment opportunity but nothing
seemed to come of it.

I do hope you were intending to read the study before you invested.

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 00:11:26 +0100, "Derek F"
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The only way to see what is different is to read both papers, IME.

The SF. Herald and Examiner?

No the scientific papers that the articles were based on.

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I actually kept the page for reference for some years as it looked as
if the company behind it might be an investment opportunity but nothing
seemed to come of it.

I do hope you were intending to read the study before you invested.

Do you think that the companies involved would have sent me the papers?

Were they not published? I would be loathe to invest in a
pig-in-a-poke like that.

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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 00:11:26 +0100, "Derek F"
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The only way to see what is different is to read both papers, IME.

The SF. Herald and Examiner?

No the scientific papers that the articles were based on.

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>I actually kept the page for reference for some years as it looked as
>if the company behind it might be an investment opportunity but

nothing

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>seemed to come of it.

I do hope you were intending to read the study before you invested.

Do you think that the companies involved would have sent me the papers?

Were they not published? I would be loathe to invest in a
pig-in-a-poke like that.

Is there any truth in my grannies other theory that Mushy Peas cause wind?
Derek.

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Thought the following news story might be of interest to your list:

Anger trigger to heart disease found?

Anger and hostility trigger the production of blood proteins involved
in inflammation, researchers have found - for the first time making a
physiological link between the emotional state and heart disease.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s915243.htm

Well, I'm pretty [censored] at the mainstream for ignoring the
low-carb approach to weight loss. I've been just friggin' steamed
about it for about 4 years now. I'm so angry and hostile that I scare
myself. Yet, I'm still at my ideal weight. No weight gain.

Oh well, another esoteric and desperate theory to explain
uncontrollable weight down the tubes.

TC

The US averages 49% carbs. I think the Zone diet you advocate is 40% carbs.
But there are Atkin's dieters averaging 3-5% and some even less. They call
themselves "low carbers". I submit you need to define your terms. Because to
an Atkin's dieter, you'd be a high carb idiot. 🙂

Ken

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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 00:11:26 +0100, "Derek F"
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The only way to see what is different is to read both papers, IME.

The SF. Herald and Examiner?

No the scientific papers that the articles were based on.

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>I actually kept the page for reference for some years as it looked as
>if the company behind it might be an investment opportunity but

nothing

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>seemed to come of it.

I do hope you were intending to read the study before you invested.

Do you think that the companies involved would have sent me the papers?

Were they not published? I would be loathe to invest in a
pig-in-a-poke like that.

It wasn't your pig nor poke:-)
Derek.

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 10:44:51 +0100, "Derek F"
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 00:11:26 +0100, "Derek F"
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> The only way to see what is different is to read both papers, IME.
>
The SF. Herald and Examiner?

No the scientific papers that the articles were based on.

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> >I actually kept the page for reference for some years as it looked as
> >if the company behind it might be an investment opportunity but

nothing

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Do you think that the companies involved would have sent me the papers?

Were they not published? I would be loathe to invest in a
pig-in-a-poke like that.

Is there any truth in my grannies other theory that Mushy Peas cause wind?

Well I assume that the common name for peas as "musical fruit", when I
was a lad, would attest to this.

On 14 Aug 2003 09:50:37 -0700, [email hidden] (tcomeau) posted:

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Thought the following news story might be of interest to your list:

Anger trigger to heart disease found?

Anger and hostility trigger the production of blood proteins involved
in inflammation, researchers have found - for the first time making a
physiological link between the emotional state and heart disease.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s915243.htm

Well, I'm pretty [censored] at the mainstream for ignoring the
low-carb approach to weight loss. I've been just friggin' steamed
about it for about 4 years now. I'm so angry and hostile that I scare
myself. Yet, I'm still at my ideal weight. No weight gain.

Oh well, another esoteric and desperate theory to explain
uncontrollable weight down the tubes.

Why can't you accept what's staring you in the face that it
is calories that make you fat?

Unless you have found that metabolic lab study that you need 🙂

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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 00:11:26 +0100, "Derek F"
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>> The only way to see what is different is to read both papers, IME.
>>
>The SF. Herald and Examiner?

No the scientific papers that the articles were based on.

>> >I actually kept the page for reference for some years as it looked

as

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>> I do hope you were intending to read the study before you invested.
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papers?

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Were they not published? I would be loathe to invest in a
pig-in-a-poke like that.

Is there any truth in my grannies other theory that Mushy Peas cause

wind?

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Well I assume that the common name for peas as "musical fruit", when I
was a lad, would attest to this.

That would be beans, not peas.

"Beans, Beans, the magical fruit
Beans, Beans, they make you toot.
The more you toot, the better you feel,
So eat your Beans at every meal."

And/or

"Beans, Beans, they're good for your heart.
Beans, Beans, they make you fart.
The more you fart, the better you feel,
So eat your Beans at every meal."

--
x

"being the smartest window-licker on the shortbus doesn't make you a genius"

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:48:40 GMT, "x" <[email hidden]> posted:

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Well I assume that the common name for peas as "musical fruit", when I
was a lad, would attest to this.

That would be beans, not peas.

"Beans, Beans, the magical fruit
Beans, Beans, they make you toot.
The more you toot, the better you feel,
So eat your Beans at every meal."

And/or

"Beans, Beans, they're good for your heart.
Beans, Beans, they make you fart.
The more you fart, the better you feel,
So eat your Beans at every meal."

Yes, baked beans and cabbage have a reputation, but 50 years ago in
Oz, I knew peas as "musical fruit". My mom told me 🙂