Andy tests for diabetes this AM.

"Andy" <q> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Took a diabetes test this morning.

Man, am I nervous. Results by Thursday.

I've seen diabetic "shock" (??). Could they be subtle enough that I
wouldn't
notice.

Doc said "don't you want to know?" Hell yes, resignedly. Citing my
appetite
for drinking so much water.

X-ing fingers.

Pop-Pop had it.

Andy
And YES, I fasted since yesterday's rotelle and pesto breakfast!!! 🙂

Which kind did you have?

I recently had the test which measures your reading over a long period of
time. Quite interesting to see what your level has been over a period of
time versus just one day's readng.

Dee Dee

Andy q said:

Took a diabetes test this morning.

Man, am I nervous. Results by Thursday.

I've seen diabetic "shock" (??). Could they be subtle enough that I wouldn't
notice.

Doc said "don't you want to know?" Hell yes, resignedly. Citing my appetite
for drinking so much water.

X-ing fingers.

Pop-Pop had it.

Andy
And YES, I fasted since yesterday's rotelle and pesto breakfast!!! 🙂

_Usually_, the first action is to change your diet, lose weight, and
exercise. Then if those don't work, come the pills.

I do have a friend who has been type 2 for a long time. Then his
numbers started soaring, and no matter what he did, they stayed up
over 400, spiking to 600 at times. After the heart attack, he decided
needles weren't such a bad thing.

You'll be with us for a long time, svelt and buff and annoyingly
healthy I have no doubt.
Hugs
maxine

Dee.Dee said...

Quoted message said:

"Andy" <q> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Took a diabetes test this morning.

Man, am I nervous. Results by Thursday.

I've seen diabetic "shock" (??). Could they be subtle enough that I
wouldn't
notice.

Doc said "don't you want to know?" Hell yes, resignedly. Citing my
appetite
for drinking so much water.

X-ing fingers.

Pop-Pop had it.

Andy
And YES, I fasted since yesterday's rotelle and pesto breakfast!!! 🙂

Which kind did you have?

I recently had the test which measures your reading over a long period of
time. Quite interesting to see what your level has been over a period of
time versus just one day's readng.

Dee Dee

Doc only took one tube of blood. He may go that way if this test is HIGH.

I know when I had my pancreatitus back in 2004-2005 they took blood every
day for a week. My blood sugar was so high they couldn't get cholesterol
readings. But they never mentioned diabetes.

Except for gout and today's test, I haven't had bloodwork since then. What
I don't know, you know?

Andy

"maxine in ri" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Andy q said:

Took a diabetes test this morning.

Man, am I nervous. Results by Thursday.

Best of luck, Andy.

Quoted message said:

_Usually_, the first action is to change your diet, lose weight, and
exercise. Then if those don't work, come the pills.

I used to read Prevention Magazine, they were forever having
articles about people who'd be able to go off their shots because
they changed their lifestyle. Seems like a plan to me.

nancy

maxine in ri said...

Quoted message said:

Andy q said:

Took a diabetes test this morning.

Man, am I nervous. Results by Thursday.

I've seen diabetic "shock" (??). Could they be subtle enough that I
wouldn't notice.

Doc said "don't you want to know?" Hell yes, resignedly. Citing my
appetite for drinking so much water.

X-ing fingers.

Pop-Pop had it.

Andy
And YES, I fasted since yesterday's rotelle and pesto breakfast!!! 🙂

_Usually_, the first action is to change your diet, lose weight, and
exercise. Then if those don't work, come the pills.

I do have a friend who has been type 2 for a long time. Then his
numbers started soaring, and no matter what he did, they stayed up
over 400, spiking to 600 at times. After the heart attack, he decided
needles weren't such a bad thing.

You'll be with us for a long time, svelt and buff and annoyingly
healthy I have no doubt.
Hugs
maxine

Thanks max!

I only have my 85% cocoa dark chocolate every so often and my wine. Well,
SweetTarts are my biggest sweets failure.

Gout certainly taught me a lesson, which is virtually gone for the time-
being!!!

Andy

On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:28:06 -0400, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"maxine in ri" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Andy q said:

Took a diabetes test this morning.

Man, am I nervous. Results by Thursday.

Best of luck, Andy.

Quoted message said:

_Usually_, the first action is to change your diet, lose weight, and
exercise. Then if those don't work, come the pills.

I used to read Prevention Magazine, they were forever having
articles about people who'd be able to go off their shots because
they changed their lifestyle. Seems like a plan to me.

nancy

T1 diabetics are pretty much stuck with insulin. The body just isn't
producing it and it needs to get in there somehow. Well, a pancreatic
transplant may help, but that isn't the first line treatment

By the time someone is on insulin (assuming they are T2), losing
weight, diet and exercise might get them to oral meds, but not as
likely to get them off meds altogether. The lifestyle changes are
always a good idea. Nothing wrong with good diet and exercise, whether
one is diabetic or not.

Often when a person is diagnosed as a T2 and the initial readings are
very high, insulin will be used to get it down to the point where
oral meds can be used. Then, maybe lifestyle changes help more... Of
course, there is Byetta, an injectable made specifically for T2s who
are not managing well on oral meds (also seems to have a interesting
habit of causing pancreatitis, but that's another story). Older
diabetics who are not being managed well on oral meds are often given
insulin, too.

The older one gets, the more difficult T2 can be to control with diet
and exercise alone or even oral meds alone. (Theory is that the no
only does insulin resistance increase, but the pancreas may [censored] out,
too.) That is an anecdotal conclusion, based on my own substantial
weight loss and a strict 45 minutes a day-6 days a week exercise
program and also in talking to the older diabetics in my family. I
have lots of company...even skinny ones develop T2 in my family.

Boron

Dee.Dee said:

I recently had the test which measures your reading over a long period of
time. Quite interesting to see what your level has been over a period of
time versus just one day's readng.

Dee Dee

That test is called a "Hemoglobin A1c"

Andy q said:

Took a diabetes test this morning.

Man, am I nervous. Results by Thursday.

I've seen diabetic "shock" (??). Could they be subtle enough that I wouldn't
notice.

Doc said "don't you want to know?" Hell yes, resignedly. Citing my appetite
for drinking so much water.

X-ing fingers.

Pop-Pop had it.

Andy
And YES, I fasted since yesterday's rotelle and pesto breakfast!!! 🙂

You'll be fine. I assume the doc is running a fasting BG level as well
as an HbA1C.

You cannot outsmart the fasting BG test, though, by not eating since
the previous day, as your liver pays no attention to you.... and your
HbA1C is a long term test - the results of 2-3 months worth of BG
levels.

One of the best ways to maintain lower morning BG readings is by
having a snack of complex carbs and protein in the evening before bed.

Don't fret. It is what it is. There are plenty of diabetics around
here to lend support and share experience and plenty of everyone to
congratulate you if things are fine.

Hopefully, you have nothing to worry about, but if you do get a
diagnosis, it is something you can manage and control. Trust me, even
before losing weight, I kept my HbA1C levels between 5.2 and 5.6.
There is a lot of new information to absorb, but you should be able to
handle it easily.

Oh -Seek expert medical advice, including seeing an endo and a
certified diabetic nutritionist, should your fasting BG appear high
enough for a diagnosis.

Boron

maxine in ri said:

_Usually_, the first action is to change your diet, lose weight, and
exercise. Then if those don't work, come the pills.

Andy, don't freakout yet. Seven years ago, I was diagnosed with Type II
diabetes; for the past 5.5 years, my semi-annual HbA1C results (THE test
that indicates your average over a period of months) have been below
diabetic levels (typically I run between 4.7 and 4.9). WITHOUT shots or
pills.

I saw a diabetic educator to learn about the disease, I worked with a
dietician to arrive at a plan, I learned about the glycemic index and choose
foods with low GI when practical, I lost 18 pounds and I take a 30 minute
walk 5-6 days per week. Oh, I still can have a piece of pecan pie on
occasion, or ice cream or .... well just about anything I want, as long as
I figure it into my meal plan for the day (plan is amount of carb vs fat vs
protein, not necessarily specific menus)

Wait for the Dr. to tell you the results, then learn what steps you can take
to control or prevent.
--
Change Cujo to Juno in email address.

l, not -l said...

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Wait for the Dr. to tell you the results, then learn what steps you can
take to control or prevent.

I'm not really freaking out. I haven't worried about diabetes my whole life,
what's another week? Kinda/sorta relieved actually for taking the initiative.

Also called the PA Health Dept. for a flu shot. It's free and they're nearby.
They also offer a pnu shot (pneumonia?) shot? Never had one of those. I
called them back and that's for 65+ age group so I won't have to worry about
that for 15 years.

Best,

Andy

"Boron Elgar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

You'll be fine. I assume the doc is running a fasting BG level as well
as an HbA1C.

You cannot outsmart the fasting BG test, though, by not eating since
the previous day, as your liver pays no attention to you.... and your
HbA1C is a long term test - the results of 2-3 months worth of BG
levels.

..

Quoted message said:

Boron

That's the test that I had, first time ever a few months' ago. I was really
glad that the doctor recommended it.

104.
Dee Dee

Andy said:

Doc only took one tube of blood. He may go that way if this test is HIGH.

I know when I had my pancreatitus back in 2004-2005 they took blood every
day for a week. My blood sugar was so high they couldn't get cholesterol
readings. But they never mentioned diabetes.

Except for gout and today's test, I haven't had bloodwork since then. What
I don't know, you know?

Andy

Andy, I wish you the best of luck with your blood test. You will have to
let us know what it says.

Sorry to hear you had pancreatitus a couple of years ago. I lost a
healthy 40 yr old friend to pancreatitus a few weeks ago, so it can be a
serious condition.

Becca

Becca said...

Quoted message said:

Andy, I wish you the best of luck with your blood test. You will have to
let us know what it says.

Sorry to hear you had pancreatitus a couple of years ago. I lost a
healthy 40 yr old friend to pancreatitus a few weeks ago, so it can be a
serious condition.

Thanks Becca,

And sorry for YOUR loss!!!

I'll never forget the doctor sticks his head through the curtain in my
emergency room after he got back with my test results and just about yells
"You've got pancreatitus!" with an almost half-smile. I said "OK, can I go
home now??" Doc, "sorry, NO!!!" Saved my life!

Andy

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Quoted message said:

Took a diabetes test this morning.

Man, am I nervous. Results by Thursday.

I've seen diabetic "shock" (??). Could they be subtle enough that I
wouldn't notice.

Yes, sometimes the episodes sneak up on me. I feel strange and the best
way I can describe it is that I get tweaky. I get real [censored] and
irritable and I feel funny and everything seem really far away and
detached. Usually when I get this way I've either forgotten a meal and
need some sugar or I've had too much exercise and not enough sugar. I
carry these jumbo sized glucose pills around with me to take in case of
an episode like this. They are huge too.

Quoted message said:

Doc said "don't you want to know?" Hell yes, resignedly. Citing my
appetite for drinking so much water.

X-ing fingers.

Pop-Pop had it.

Andy
And YES, I fasted since yesterday's rotelle and pesto breakfast!!! 🙂

What test is he doing, an A1C? My last one back in August was a 6.2. Not
great but not bad either. Anything under 7 is considered good. Do you
test yourself yet? Probably not if you haven't been diagnosed. If you
are diagnosed with it the BEST advice I can give you is to see a
certified *DIABETIC* nutritionist as soon as you can. Mine took all the
mystery and fear out of it. I'm type II and take oral medication. It's
just become part of my life and I take care of it like I do anything else
that needs attention. I remember posting here right after I was
diagnosed. I was crazy until I saw the nutritionist. Wayne also helped
calm me down. I have heart disease also which is a double whammy. After
awhile you'll just kind of know what to do without it being a big deal.
It becomes part of life you can live with in harmony.

Good luck,

Michael
--
Last words spoken before execution . . .

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel."
Executed in electric chair in New York.
~~ George Appel, d. 1928

Send email to: michael at lonergan dot us dot com

Michael "Dog3" said...

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Andy <q> dropped this news:[email hidden]: in
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Quoted message said:

Took a diabetes test this morning.

Man, am I nervous. Results by Thursday.

I've seen diabetic "shock" (??). Could they be subtle enough that I
wouldn't notice.

Yes, sometimes the episodes sneak up on me. I feel strange and the best
way I can describe it is that I get tweaky. I get real [censored] and
irritable and I feel funny and everything seem really far away and
detached. Usually when I get this way I've either forgotten a meal and
need some sugar or I've had too much exercise and not enough sugar. I
carry these jumbo sized glucose pills around with me to take in case of
an episode like this. They are huge too.

Good luck,

Michael

Thanks bro!

Mmmm... giant glucose pills. SweetTarts!? [DROOL]

Best,

Andy

Andy said:

Took a diabetes test this morning.

Man, am I nervous. Results by Thursday.

I've seen diabetic "shock" (??). Could they be subtle enough that I
wouldn't notice.

Doc said "don't you want to know?" Hell yes, resignedly. Citing my
appetite for drinking so much water.

X-ing fingers.

Pop-Pop had it.

Andy
And YES, I fasted since yesterday's rotelle and pesto breakfast!!! 🙂

Good luck!!

I was in the danger zone. Lost enough weight to get out of it.

--
Dan Goodman
"You, each of you, have some special wild cards. Play with them.
Find out what makes you different and better. Because it is there,
if only you can find it." Vernor Vinge, _Rainbows End_
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"Boron Elgar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:28:06 -0400, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]>

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"maxine in ri" <[email hidden]> wrote

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On Nov 2, 9:55 am, Andy <q> wrote:
> Took a diabetes test this morning.
>
> Man, am I nervous. Results by Thursday.

Best of luck, Andy.

Quoted message said:

_Usually_, the first action is to change your diet, lose weight, and
exercise. Then if those don't work, come the pills.

I used to read Prevention Magazine, they were forever having
articles about people who'd be able to go off their shots because
they changed their lifestyle. Seems like a plan to me.

nancy

T1 diabetics are pretty much stuck with insulin. The body just isn't
producing it and it needs to get in there somehow. Well, a pancreatic
transplant may help, but that isn't the first line treatment

By the time someone is on insulin (assuming they are T2), losing
weight, diet and exercise might get them to oral meds, but not as
likely to get them off meds altogether. The lifestyle changes are
always a good idea. Nothing wrong with good diet and exercise, whether
one is diabetic or not.

Often when a person is diagnosed as a T2 and the initial readings are
very high, insulin will be used to get it down to the point where
oral meds can be used. Then, maybe lifestyle changes help more... Of
course, there is Byetta, an injectable made specifically for T2s who
are not managing well on oral meds (also seems to have a interesting
habit of causing pancreatitis, but that's another story). Older
diabetics who are not being managed well on oral meds are often given
insulin, too.

The older one gets, the more difficult T2 can be to control with diet
and exercise alone or even oral meds alone. (Theory is that the no
only does insulin resistance increase, but the pancreas may [censored] out,
too.) That is an anecdotal conclusion, based on my own substantial
weight loss and a strict 45 minutes a day-6 days a week exercise
program and also in talking to the older diabetics in my family. I
have lots of company...even skinny ones develop T2 in my family.

Boron

The hardest part is making the lifestyle accomodations. Not saying it can't
be done, but so far, I haven't mastered it, and I was diagnosed Type 2 July
of 2006. I'm not on meds merely supposed to be diet controlled, yeah right.
I have a bad feeling that glucofage(?) or metformin is in the works for me.
-ginny
Good luck Andy, dear. Philly has some of the best endocrinologists in the
country, so if you got to be diagnosed, you couldn't be in a better place.

"Michael "Dog3"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Andy <q> dropped this news:[email hidden]: in
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Quoted message said:

Took a diabetes test this morning.

Man, am I nervous. Results by Thursday.

I've seen diabetic "shock" (??). Could they be subtle enough that I
wouldn't notice.

Yes, sometimes the episodes sneak up on me. I feel strange and the best
way I can describe it is that I get tweaky. I get real [censored] and
irritable and I feel funny and everything seem really far away and
detached. Usually when I get this way I've either forgotten a meal and
need some sugar or I've had too much exercise and not enough sugar. I
carry these jumbo sized glucose pills around with me to take in case of
an episode like this. They are huge too.

Quoted message said:

Doc said "don't you want to know?" Hell yes, resignedly. Citing my
appetite for drinking so much water.

X-ing fingers.

Pop-Pop had it.

Andy
And YES, I fasted since yesterday's rotelle and pesto breakfast!!! 🙂

What test is he doing, an A1C? My last one back in August was a 6.2. Not
great but not bad either. Anything under 7 is considered good. Do you
test yourself yet? Probably not if you haven't been diagnosed. If you
are diagnosed with it the BEST advice I can give you is to see a
certified *DIABETIC* nutritionist as soon as you can. Mine took all the
mystery and fear out of it. I'm type II and take oral medication. It's
just become part of my life and I take care of it like I do anything else
that needs attention. I remember posting here right after I was
diagnosed. I was crazy until I saw the nutritionist. Wayne also helped
calm me down. I have heart disease also which is a double whammy. After
awhile you'll just kind of know what to do without it being a big deal.
It becomes part of life you can live with in harmony.

Good luck,

Michael
--
Last words spoken before execution . . .

"Well, gentlemen, you are about to see a baked Appel."
Executed in electric chair in New York.
~~ George Appel, d. 1928

Send email to: michael at lonergan dot us dot com

My daughter is type 1 and has to take those gawd awful glucose tabs wherever
she goes. If she dips low and can get something to eat quickly, however,
she will not take one of those chalk tasting things and eat a sweet [censored] or
two....so see Andy, there is a silver lining if you only look for it.
-ginny

"Andy" <q> wrote

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Michael "Dog3" said...

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I
carry these jumbo sized glucose pills around with me to take in case of
an episode like this. They are huge too.

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Thanks bro!

Mmmm... giant glucose pills. SweetTarts!? [DROOL]

I carry them around in case I wind up in a situation where I suddenly
realize I should have eaten first. Happened once in my dentist's chair
and he gave me one of his. I could have used them a few times, but
I haven't in a long time.

nancy