An ice axe in July!!

I live near Liverpool, and when going in at night, especially in winter, I
wish that I could carry mine. Unfortunately plod would prefer to arrest
rather than protect me!

"Phil Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have on occasion in the past borrowed an axe from a friend and
carried it home on the tube. I guess that is something I shouldn't do
nowadays, especially in Liverpool.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4477156.stm
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:50:10 +0000, Phil Cook burbled:

Quoted message said:

I have on occasion in the past borrowed an axe from a friend and carried
it home on the tube. I guess that is something I shouldn't do nowadays,
especially in Liverpool.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4477156.stm

Oh, I dunno... What with the famous Southport-Formby range... <grin>

--
Mick
(no M$ software on here... :-) )
Web: http://www.nascom.info
Web: http://projectedsound.tk

Gordon Burns said:

I live near Liverpool, and when going in at night, especially in winter, I
wish that I could carry mine. Unfortunately plod would prefer to arrest
rather than protect me!

Seriously, we could be heading for a problem here. Something Must Be
Done about these evil weapons that can easily be bought by anyone, and
the mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them
in Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.

Hope the MCoS and BMC have their rebuttal squads at the ready.
Meanwhile one of mine is still in my car boot - antiforget strategy.
......
Thank goodness these scumbags will be getting theirs tomorrow,
frightening stuff. Dont forget Anthony Walker.

Richard Webb

Phil Cook said:

I have on occasion in the past borrowed an axe from a friend and
carried it home on the tube. I guess that is something I shouldn't do
nowadays, especially in Liverpool.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4477156.stm

I saw the family of television and I'm astonished by the dignity and
composure of the mother.

"I've got to forgive them, my family and I still stand by what we
believe - forgiveness."

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:17:04 +0000, Richard Webb burbled:

Quoted message said:

Gordon Burns said:

I live near Liverpool, and when going in at night, especially in winter,
I wish that I could carry mine. Unfortunately plod would prefer to arrest
rather than protect me!

Seriously, we could be heading for a problem here. Something Must Be Done
about these evil weapons that can easily be bought by anyone, and the
mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them in
Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.

<snip>

The daft thing is, if you have an ordinary keyring with 2 or 3 keys on it
and any credit-card/phone-card type thing then you are already walking
around with a couple of potentially nasty weapons. Perhaps the lunatic
inhabitants of that remote corner will ban these too.

--
Mick
(no M$ software on here... :-) )
Web: http://www.nascom.info
Web: http://projectedsound.tk

"Richard Webb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Gordon Burns said:

I live near Liverpool, and when going in at night, especially in winter, I
wish that I could carry mine. Unfortunately plod would prefer to arrest
rather than protect me!

Seriously, we could be heading for a problem here. Something Must Be
Done about these evil weapons that can easily be bought by anyone, and
the mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them
in Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.

Hope the MCoS and BMC have their rebuttal squads at the ready.
Meanwhile one of mine is still in my car boot - antiforget strategy.
.....
Thank goodness these scumbags will be getting theirs tomorrow,
frightening stuff. Dont forget Anthony Walker.

Richard Webb

Far too pricey to be brought as weapons. Besides, I'd imagine you get one
swing of the axe and then its stuck. Apart from Leon Trotsky and this
recent incident I don't know of any other ice axe victims.

Phil Cook said:

I have on occasion in the past borrowed an axe from a friend and
carried it home on the tube. I guess that is something I shouldn't do
nowadays, especially in Liverpool.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4477156.stm

Christ, I think you've started a 400 post debate about whether racially
motivated attacks with Ice Axes are bad because of the woory that
attackers will lose existing skills with flick knives..... and what if
you ice axe breaks when you don't have more traditional assault weapons
to hand...

In article <[email hidden]>, Richard Webb
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Seriously, we could be heading for a problem here. Something Must Be
Done about these evil weapons that can easily be bought by anyone, and
the mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them
in Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.

Fortunately there has been no knee-jerk reaction to the Liverpool
incident as there was with the Dunblane shooting. There were literally
thousands of geunine club licenced pistol/.rifle shooters who had to
give up their weapons. This did not stop the villains getting their
hands on even more dangerous firearms.
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

.....
Thank goodness these scumbags will be getting theirs tomorrow,
frightening stuff. Dont forget Anthony Walker.

Richard Webb

Far too pricey to be brought as weapons. Besides, I'd imagine you get one
swing of the axe and then its stuck. Apart from Leon Trotsky and this
recent incident I don't know of any other ice axe victims.

Pedants Corner: What made his ears burn was an ice pick... Used to
chop the stuff up for drinks etc.

Richard Webb

Quoted message said:

Christ, I think you've started a 400 post debate about whether racially
motivated attacks with Ice Axes are bad because of the woory that
attackers will lose existing skills with flick knives..... and what if
you ice axe breaks when you don't have more traditional assault weapons
to hand...

I think for braking, I'll stick by my trusty axe. Allthough I have
used antlers, ski poles, trekking poles and lumps of wood before.

Memo to self: Stop falling off hills!

Richard Webb

Local telly up here showed a picture of a "similar" axe to that used. It was
one of those Grivel anniversary wooden ones, supplied in a presentation box,
and costing about £100. Don't think they were ever intended to be used on
the real stuff, so what is a scouse scally doing with one of these in the
first place? I would hazard a guess that he didn't buy the thing.

"Richard Webb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Christ, I think you've started a 400 post debate about whether racially
motivated attacks with Ice Axes are bad because of the woory that
attackers will lose existing skills with flick knives..... and what if
you ice axe breaks when you don't have more traditional assault weapons
to hand...

I think for braking, I'll stick by my trusty axe. Allthough I have
used antlers, ski poles, trekking poles and lumps of wood before.

Memo to self: Stop falling off hills!

Richard Webb

Gordon Burns said:

Local telly up here showed a picture of a "similar" axe to that used. It was
one of those Grivel anniversary wooden ones, supplied in a presentation box,
and costing about £100. Don't think they were ever intended to be used on
the real stuff, so what is a scouse scally doing with one of these in the
first place? I would hazard a guess that he didn't buy the thing.

The one shown on the BBC page looks like the actual one since it has
an evidence tag and a scale in the picture.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41073000/jpg/_41073464_iceaxe203_pa.jpg
It looks like one of the bargain basement Camp or Jolly axes to me
metal shaft with a rubber grip. It's hard to tell the make from the
photo as the flash has shone back and obliterated the maker's name,
and yes I'll bet you a million to one they didn't buy it.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

"Phil Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote

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The one shown on the BBC page looks like the actual one since it has
an evidence tag and a scale in the picture.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41073000/jpg/_41073464_iceaxe203_pa.jpg

Quoted message said:

It looks like one of the bargain basement Camp or Jolly axes to me
metal shaft with a rubber grip. It's hard to tell the make from the
photo as the flash has shone back and obliterated the maker's name,
and yes I'll bet you a million to one they didn't buy it.

I think it's a Grivel Nepal Plus like the one in my cupboard (at least I
think it's still in my cupboard).

Quoted message said:

Seriously, we could be heading for a problem here. Something Must Be
Done about these evil weapons that can easily be bought by anyone, and
the mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them
in Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.

Wow ... old on a minute about the bottom right corner and us southerners!
Not being a climber as such, although I do own an iceaxe for winter
mountains, but apparently there can be some excellent 'ice climbing' done on
the white chalk cliffs around the Dover coastline. Reliable informed by the
staff in Pegler's Mountaineering shop in Arundel.

Maybe no ice ....................... but lots of 'sensible' use for an
iceaxe.

--
sandy saunders @ www.thewalkzone.co.uk
email: saunders.sandy at ntlworld.com

'Mountains or Mole Hills ... summiting still
brings the same excitement'

Following up to Richard Webb

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and
the mountain ignorant will be claiming that there is no use for them
in Britain, by which they mean the bottom right corner of England.

You can use one (or rather two) in London, right now, within 50
feet of the Thames, on ice.
--
Mike Reid
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:17:04 GMT, [email hidden] (Richard Webb)

Quoted message said:

Thank goodness these scumbags will be getting theirs tomorrow,
frightening stuff. Dont forget Anthony Walker.

Yes.

The c*nts live down the road from me.

They'll be eating chocolate pudding for the next 15 or 20 years.
Anthony was at my daughter's college. I'm now having a drink to him.

His mother comes across as one superb woman.
--

Paul Rooney

Paul Rooney said:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:17:04 GMT, [email hidden] (Richard Webb)

Quoted message said:

Thank goodness these scumbags will be getting theirs tomorrow,
frightening stuff. Dont forget Anthony Walker.

Yes.

The c*nts live down the road from me.

They'll be eating chocolate pudding for the next 15 or 20 years.
Anthony was at my daughter's college. I'm now having a drink to him.

Well over twenty years. Amen to that.

I am pleased to note they're young lads. I hope a *lot* of the inmates
take a fancy to them.

Paul Rooney <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:17:04 GMT, [email hidden] (Richard Webb)

Quoted message said:

Thank goodness these scumbags will be getting theirs tomorrow,
frightening stuff. Dont forget Anthony Walker.

Yes.

The c*nts live down the road from me.

They'll be eating chocolate pudding for the next 15 or 20 years.
Anthony was at my daughter's college. I'm now having a drink to him.

His mother comes across as one superb woman.

She does, but I can unders6tand why his girl friend can not forgive
them.
They were a pair of evil swines, apart from the murder.
--
Gordon Harris

Gordon Burns <[email hidden]> wrote

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Local telly up here showed a picture of a "similar" axe to that used. It was
one of those Grivel anniversary wooden ones, supplied in a presentation box,
and costing about £100. Don't think they were ever intended to be used on
the real stuff, so what is a scouse scally doing with one of these in the
first place? I would hazard a guess that he didn't buy the thing.

He was a career burglar, specialising in stores according to the news.
--
Gordon Harris