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  1. grahamwatson.com76.jpg

    From 2002. The caption underneath the photo reads:

    "Wrong place, wrong time...an unavoidable pairing with Greg LeMond
    left Lance furious with the organizers - just a few months after
    LeMond had again questioned the 'purity' of Lance's Tour
    performances...Lance went home for the winter, even more determined to
    win 5, 6, even 7 Tours now..!"

    J. Spaceman

  2. "Jason Spaceman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    grahamwatson.com76.jpg

    From 2002. The caption underneath the photo reads:

    "Wrong place, wrong time...an unavoidable pairing with Greg LeMond
    left Lance furious with the organizers - just a few months after
    LeMond had again questioned the 'purity' of Lance's Tour
    performances...Lance went home for the winter, even more determined to
    win 5, 6, even 7 Tours now..!"

    Interestingly, LANCE looks even more lean in the face now (he did a 15 sec
    cameo on the Monday Night Football intro earlier this week) than he did
    then.

  3. so given about the caption for the picture in your post,

    what is the caption for this picture:

    grahamwatson.com75.jpg

    "Jason Spaceman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    grahamwatson.com76.jpg

    From 2002. The caption underneath the photo reads:

    "Wrong place, wrong time...an unavoidable pairing with Greg LeMond
    left Lance furious with the organizers - just a few months after
    LeMond had again questioned the 'purity' of Lance's Tour
    performances...Lance went home for the winter, even more determined to
    win 5, 6, even 7 Tours now..!"

    J. Spaceman

  4. "xzzy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    so given about the caption for the picture in your post,

    what is the caption for this picture:

    grahamwatson.com75.jpg

    The Frenchman has a gas problem

  5. Hell, I don't know if Lance has ever doped, and I really don't care anymore.
    But Greg Lemond ate some sour grapes in 1999 when another American won the
    Tour.

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    xzzy said:

    so given about the caption for the picture in your post,

    what is the caption for this picture:

    grahamwatson.com75.jpg

    "Crow to help Armstrong choose proper clothing for important public event"

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    The sheriff is near...

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

  7. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    xzzy said:

    so given about the caption for the picture in your post,

    what is the caption for this picture:

    grahamwatson.com75.jpg

    -- You want a piece of me, Jean-Marie?
    -- Simon did not say look.
    -- One of these days I'll regress to the mean.
    -- I have _got_ to talk to my tailor.

    --
    Michael Press

  8. "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    Look at the veins on Lance's hands -- that's a strong indicator of
    doping. And why isn't he wearing a tie? Is it in his "bagful of
    courage"? Everyone knows that its hard to tie a full-windsor or even
    a half-windsor when you're on a "program." I know hindsight is 20-20,
    but we should have spotted this earlier.

    He could have used a clip-on.

  9. Jason Spaceman said:

    grahamwatson.com76.jpg

    Look at the veins on Lance's hands -- that's a strong indicator of
    doping. And why isn't he wearing a tie? Is it in his "bagful of
    courage"? Everyone knows that its hard to tie a full-windsor or even
    a half-windsor when you're on a "program." I know hindsight is 20-20,
    but we should have spotted this earlier.

    It's so obvious.

    JT

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  10. xzzy said:

    so given about the caption for the picture in your post,

    what is the caption for this picture:

    grahamwatson.com75.jpg

    "Jason Spaceman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    grahamwatson.com76.jpg

    From 2002. The caption underneath the photo reads:

    "Wrong place, wrong time...an unavoidable pairing with Greg LeMond
    left Lance furious with the organizers - just a few months after
    LeMond had again questioned the 'purity' of Lance's Tour
    performances...Lance went home for the winter, even more determined to
    win 5, 6, even 7 Tours now..!"

    J. Spaceman

    Hey, Eddy, Bernie--I thought Andy Kaufman was dead!

    Steve

    --
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001


  11. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    what is the caption for this picture:

    grahamwatson.com75.jpg


    God I'm a fraud, but only Brian Lafferty has the intelligence to see it,
    and the courage to reveal it to the world. Nobody will beleive him
    though, unless he obsessively keeps on about it for years.

  12. Carl Sundquist said:

    "John Forrest Tomlinson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Look at the veins on Lance's hands -- that's a strong indicator of
    doping. And why isn't he wearing a tie? Is it in his "bagful of
    courage"? Everyone knows that its hard to tie a full-windsor or even
    a half-windsor when you're on a "program." I know hindsight is 20-20,
    but we should have spotted this earlier.

    He could have used a clip-on.

    But dopers do not wear ties. Not even clip ons. Are these guys wearing
    ties?
    http://www.rubylane.com/ni/shops/happyii/iteml/133#pic1

    No.

    Did you ever see this guy wear a tie?
    http://www.starpulse.com/Athletes/Palmeiro,_Rafael/gallery/3/

    No, you didn't.

    How about Doctors? A Dr. who doesn't take drugs looks like this:
    http://timstvshowcase.com/medical.html and one who DOES use drugs looks
    like this: http://www.doitnow.org/pages/timleary/FrameSet.htm

    We really don't need an EPO test here.

  13. Philip W. Moore said:

    Hell, I don't know if Lance has ever doped, and I really don't care anymore.
    But Greg Lemond ate some sour grapes in 1999 when another American won the
    Tour.

    I don't recall hearing any bitterness from Lemond until LANCE's
    relationship with the orange juice vendor was outed. From what
    I have heard from the people that have met him I have no doubt
    he is a much bigger person than pinheads like you give him credit
    for.

    Bob Schwartz

  14. John Forrest Tomlinson said:

    Look at the veins on Lance's hands -- that's a strong indicator of
    doping. And why isn't he wearing a tie? Is it in his "bagful of
    courage"? Everyone knows that its hard to tie a full-windsor or even
    a half-windsor when you're on a "program." I know hindsight is 20-20,
    but we should have spotted this earlier.

    It's so obvious.

    That explains this one.

    grahamwatson.com75.jpg

    Bob Schwartz

  15. "Bob Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > I don't
    recall hearing any bitterness from Lemond until LANCE's

    Quoted message said:

    relationship with the orange juice vendor was outed. From what
    I have heard from the people that have met him I have no doubt
    he is a much bigger person than pinheads like you give him credit
    for.

    Bob Schwartz

    Bob,

    Settle down, man. I don't care about Ferrari. But you can't tell me a
    champion like Lemond - the first great American cyclist - liked hearing all
    the buzz about Armstrong. Go back and read interviews from 1999 and 2000
    and see his reaction to the press' questions about and comparisons of him to
    Armstrong. I'd get annoyed by it, too. But Lemond had some sour grapes.
    That doesn't mean he's an [censored].

    -Philip

  16. Carl Sundquist said:
    Quoted message said:

    He could have used a clip-on.

    Tim Lines said:

    But dopers do not wear ties. Not even clip ons. Are these guys wearing
    ties?
    http://www.rubylane.com/ni/shops/happyii/iteml/133#pic1

    I haven't worn a tie for such a long time I've forgotten how to tie a
    tie knot.

    I'm a doper baby, why don't you kill me.

  17. 6. xzzy
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    "what is the caption for this picture:"

    "I've more money than all three of you guys put together so I don't
    need to impress anyone by wearing a tie. Besides I'm WAY cooler than
    you guys EVER were.

    And Eddy is STILL the champion of champions.

    But you have to admit that Bernard still looks great even at his
    advancing age......

    And let's face it - Greg was a great racer who would have done a great
    deal better if he'd not been out hunting. But he was and the accident
    did occur. And there isn't any such thing as a virtual win. As much as
    I like Greg he was out of line and spouting sour grapes about Lance.

  18. Philip W. Moore said:

    Settle down, man. I don't care about Ferrari. But you can't tell me a
    champion like Lemond - the first great American cyclist - liked hearing all
    the buzz about Armstrong.

    {sound of Major Taylor rolling in his grave}

    R

  19. Tom Kunich says...

    Quoted message said:

    As much as I like Greg he was out of line and spouting sour grapes about Lance.

    That was my initial impression too. As time has passed, I've waffled back and
    forth. Fundamentally, I don't have a problem with Lemond speaking his mind.
    One of his major lines of argument has to do with the sudden increase in average
    tour speed being an indication of widespread doping, etc. But others point out
    that there is a correlation between total miles in a given Tour and average
    speed. It's easy to agree with those that claim dopers are everywhere in pro
    cycling - what activity that has significant value is not subject to cheating?
    But when you see people going to such extremes to provide proof (such as Equipe)
    then the dope cops look equally suspect.

  20. Tom Kunich said:

    6. xzzy
    Dec 2, 8:55 pm show options

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    "what is the caption for this picture:"

    "I've more money than all three of you guys put together so I don't
    need to impress anyone by wearing a tie. Besides I'm WAY cooler than
    you guys EVER were.

    And Eddy is STILL the champion of champions.

    But you have to admit that Bernard still looks great even at his
    advancing age......

    Shut up--you well know he's younger than either of us.

    Steve

    Quoted message said:


    And let's face it - Greg was a great racer who would have done a great
    deal better if he'd not been out hunting. But he was and the accident
    did occur. And there isn't any such thing as a virtual win. As much as
    I like Greg he was out of line and spouting sour grapes about Lance.

    --
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001

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