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  1. With the weather so good I decided to take a break from chores and have a short ride to get some
    fresh air. As I was leaving suburbia there is a roundabout leading to an estate. As I approached
    this with the intention of going straight over I heard a car cautiously approach from behind then
    cautiously overtake and equally cautiously turn left alongside me, I also turned left cautiously
    because I had little option. I decided to follow the car to ask the driver if they were aware of me.
    Now the lady driving was cautious to a fault, the kind of caution reserved for those over the drink
    limit being tailed by the police or who lack good eyesight.

    The car eventually pulled into the drive of a smart house and I waited patiently at the kerbside for
    the occupants to disembark. Now my intent was to use Nick Kews example of education, I wasn't angry
    or aggressive in any way, just sort of resigned. First out was the gentleman passenger, so being
    gallant and getting bored by their slow egress I addressed him, what follows is a rough transcript:

    Me: "Excuse me, are you aware of what your lady did a moment ago?" Him: "No, what was that?"
    N: "At the roundabout by the cemetery I was going straight on and she turned across me"
    O: "You didn't indicate" "In that case you should have treated me with more caution" "Go away"
    "Why?" "Because you're annoying me" "I just want you to be more aware in future"

    He approaches and gets quite close. "You must have accelerated" "Why would I do that?" "Because
    people like you....." looks me up and down disdainfully. "Yes, what about people like me?" "...are
    dressed to accelerate, now go away" "Why should I?" "Because you're on my land!" "Sorry, I didn't
    know you owned this bit of road" "Well, I do. I own it from my property to the centre" "In that case
    contact your solicitor and issue me a writ" "I am a solicitor" "Well, start issuing me a writ"

    By now his face is inches away from mine, his eyes are popping and his fists are clenched at his
    side. "Go away, you're annoying me" "No, I don't think I will" "You're making me very angry and when
    I get angry........." "I see, are you threatening me with violence?"

    This is quite funny, he's not a small chap and in his late 50's, now I'm 50 next week and there any
    physical similarities end.

    "Oh, alright, I'm very sorry we cut you up now go away!" not at all graciously. "Thank you for the
    apology but I would just like you....." Couldn't finish saying "to be more aware of cyclists" "Look,
    I've apologised and you've accepted it now go away or I'll call the police" "Call them by all means,
    I'll hang on" Shouts to wifey who has been unloading shopping without saying a word "Call the
    police, this mans creating a public nuisance" And to me "Go away, you're embarrassing me"

    I decide I've had enough and failed to make my point about watching out for cyclists in future so
    decide to leave and continue an otherwise enjoyable ride. (Of course what I should have done is call
    the police on my mobile on his behalf 🙂

    On reflection a few things about the scene: 1, Wifey was without opinion, I think he beats her. 2,
    When they pulled into their drive the next door neighbour was on his front but didn't speak to them,
    in a similar circumstance my neighbours always acknowledge us and we them, seemed to imply they
    don't care for him
    :-)
    3, He could have had a heart attack and I've recently learned CPR and so morally would have felt
    obliged to resus him but I didn't have a facial barrier with me, ugh! 4, I should have phoned the
    police as I wonder about the drivers eyesight or ability to be on the road.

    Pete

  2. "Peter B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
    <snipped blah de blah>

    For the other side to this story see the letters page of next weeks Daily Wail :-)

    Pete

  3. "Peter B" wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:

    3, He could have had a heart attack and I've recently learned CPR and so morally would have felt
    obliged to resus him but I didn't have a facial barrier with me, ugh!

    Are you, like a "proper" trained first aider then? Of course if necessary you'd have done the
    necessary to save the twerp, but if you hadn't his Wife would probably have sued you! :-)

  4. "Peter B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    H: "You didn't indicate"

    I would be interested to know how you indicate "I am going straight ahead"!

  5. Adrian Boliston said:

    "Peter B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    H: "You didn't indicate"

    I would be interested to know how you indicate "I am going straight ahead"!

    The highway code is a little vague about this. It says: When taking any intermediate exit
    * select the appropriate lane on approach to and on the roundabout, signalling as necessary
    * stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout
    * signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want.

    It is unclear to me from this whether any signal is required until you have passed the first exit,
    as it only specifically suggests signalling right if you are using the last exit. However, what I
    usually do when going straight on is to take the centre of the lane (or the right hand side of the
    left lane if its a two lane entry - I don't do more than two lane entry if avoidable). It is also
    unclear from the highway code text if "signalling as necessary" is intended to mean signalling if
    you need to change to a different entry lane prior to the roundabout.

    I think the highway code could be a little less vague.

    --
    Jim Price

    jimprice.dsl.pipex.comjimprice.dsl.pipex.com

    Conscientious objection is hard work in an economic war.

    Aye!.

  6. Jim [email hidden] Price wrote: ( It is also unclear from the highway code text ) if
    "signalling as necessary" is intended to mean signalling if you need ( to change to a different
    entry lane prior to the roundabout.

    That's how I've always read it.

    I got grumbled at by a cyclist who was trying to undertake me yesterday... no, Friday, because I had
    signalled right to move into the right-hand lane of two at a set of lights, and then stayed in it
    rather than turning right out of it at the turning before the lights as he expected. I wouldn't
    mind, but I was on a bike myself. And if I had been turning I wouldn't have stopped indicating when
    I finished changing lanes.

    ( Aye!.

    Aye.

    Someone tell me we'll forget exactly what that was for long before we stop doing it, won't we?

  7. Peter B said:

    With the weather so good I decided to take a break from chores and have a short ride to get some
    fresh air.

    I had a nice run in with a vehicle this afternoon. Another fool demanding that I should be using the
    pavement cycle lane (priory lane leaving Richmond park) He shouted abuse and cut me up, I gave him
    the bird, he stopped and forced me onto the pavement, where as he told me how much the cycle lane
    cost(with other abuse). I just told him I didn't care how much it cost, I didn't ask for it, and
    which page of the highway code says that cyclists must use a cycle lane. He drive off eventually.

    Of course abusing someone from your own car is one thing, doing it in the Wansworth council works
    van with lift platform is another! A nice email wings its way off to the director of technical
    services at Wansworth council as we speak.

    You never know, perhaps "get off the fu**ing road" is official Wansworth council policy!

    Steve

  8. AndyK' email hidden in said:

    "Peter B" wrote in message ...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    3, He could have had a heart attack and I've recently learned CPR and so morally would have felt
    obliged to resus him but I didn't have a facial barrier with me, ugh!

    Quoted message said:

    Are you, like a "proper" trained first aider then? Of course if necessary you'd have done the
    necessary to save the twerp, but if you hadn't his Wife would probably have sued you! :-)

    Rule number one of first aid is to assess your own safety before you even begin to think about "ABC"
    [1]. If you don't have a face shield then I would consider it unsafe to perform CPR.

    In my hospital, unprotected mouth-to-mouth ventilation is banned.

    Love and CPR from Rich x

    [1] ABC stands for Always Be Cool.
    --
    Two fish suddenly swim into a brick wall. Damn! To reply put only the word "richard" before
    the @ sign

  9. Steve Peake said:

    I had a nice run in with a vehicle this afternoon. Another fool demanding that I should be using
    the pavement cycle lane (priory lane leaving Richmond park) He shouted abuse and cut me up, I gave
    him the bird, he stopped and forced me onto the pavement, where as he told me how much the cycle
    lane cost(with other abuse). I just told him I didn't care how much it cost, I didn't ask for it,
    and which page of the highway code says that cyclists must use a cycle lane. He drive off
    eventually.

    Of course abusing someone from your own car is one thing, doing it in the Wansworth council works
    van with lift platform is another! A nice email wings its way off to the director of technical
    services at Wansworth council as we speak.

    You never know, perhaps "get off the fu**ing road" is official Wansworth council policy!

    I shouldn't stop there, Steve, I should contact the police as well. Forcing you off the road is
    beyond the pale.

    --
    Dave...

  10. Geraint Jones said:

    Jim [email hidden] Price wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    ( Aye!.

    Aye.

    Someone tell me we'll forget exactly what that was for long before we stop doing it, won't we?

    When we forget someone who can post the following style of reply to the question (Quoted from
    UK.tosspot - google is there if you don't believe me): "

    Quoted message said:

    But what about the chances of a death caused by dangerous driving ?

    Does the cause matter? "

    source: "]news://news.dsl.pipex.com:[email hidden]

    --
    Jim Price

    jimprice.dsl.pipex.comjimprice.dsl.pipex.com

    Conscientious objection is hard work in an economic war.

    Aye!. [censored]!.

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