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  1. I just saw the movie "American Flyer". There is a scene at the end where two cyclists are at the
    front of the race and one cyclist deliberately leans into another cyclist over an extended period
    clearly trying to make him crash. I have seen tapes of actual races where sprinters are relegated to
    last place when they engage in “dangerous sprinting”. So here are my questions:

    1. Wouldn’t an official be in position to see such behavior at the front of a race and
    penalize the cyclist who is deliberately attempting to wreck the other.

    2. If a cyclist was regularly so dirty…wouldn’t his fellow peleton members have
    already taken care of him long before he even got to that position. After all, such a rider
    would be a threat to the earnings and lives of all the peleton members.

    I've never raced, so I'm looking for the opinions of people who have.

  2. Four words: "Only In The Movies."

  3. It's Hollywood.

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  4. "Time Cop" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Four words: "Only In The Movies."


    Actually, the three letter acronym is "POS:" Power Of the Script. Solves a lot of sticky problems
    for those that make movies...

    Mike

  5. [email hidden] (Matt Cahill) wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I just saw the movie "American Flyer". There is a scene at the end where two cyclists are at the
    front of the race and one cyclist deliberately leans into another cyclist over an extended period
    clearly trying to make him crash. I have seen tapes of actual races where sprinters are relegated
    to last place when they engage in “dangerous sprinting”. So here are my questions:

    1. Wouldn’t an official be in position to see such behavior at the front of a race and
    penalize the cyclist who is deliberately attempting to wreck the other.

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    2. If a cyclist was regularly so dirty…wouldn’t his fellow peleton members have
    already taken care of him long before he even got to that position. After all, such a rider
    would be a threat to the earnings and lives of all the peleton members.

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    I've never raced, so I'm looking for the opinions of people who have.

    Don't let this type of behaviour scare you off. Like others have said, its mostly just for the
    movies. You will almost never see this type of thing happen (at least intentionally) in a real race.

    - Boyd S.

  6. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I just saw the movie "American Flyer". There is a scene at the end where two cyclists are at the
    front of the race and one cyclist deliberately leans into another cyclist over an extended
    period clearly trying to make him crash. I have seen tapes of actual races where sprinters are
    relegated to last place when they engage in “dangerous sprinting”. So here are my
    questions:

    1. Wouldn’t an official be in position to see such behavior at the front of a race and
    penalize the cyclist who is deliberately attempting to wreck the other.

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    2. If a cyclist was regularly so dirty…wouldn’t his fellow peleton members have
    already taken care of him long before he even got to that position. After all, such a
    rider would be a threat to the earnings and lives of all the peleton members.

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    I've never raced, so I'm looking for the opinions of people who have.

    Don't let this type of behaviour scare you off. Like others have said, its mostly just for
    the movies. You will almost never see this type of thing happen (at least intentionally) in a
    real race.

    - Boyd S.


    ...and at the level he'd be racing, if someone tried a stunt like that, half the pack would
    fall over!

    Mike

  7. Boyd Speerschneider said:

    Don't let this type of behaviour scare you off. Like others have said, its mostly just for
    the movies. You will almost never see this type of thing happen (at least intentionally) in a
    real race.

    - Boyd S.

    Many years ago I participated in a cat-4 criterium where someone in front of me did this leaning.
    He'd apparently had just watched the movie. It was silly; we were at least one kilometer from the
    finish, it was a peloton of maybe 20 spread out across a wide road. I remember thinking, "Oh,
    there's the designated squirrel of the day."

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    could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security." --Microsoft VP in
    charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.

  8. Boyd Speerschneider said:

    [email hidden] (Matt Cahill) wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I just saw the movie "American Flyer". There is a scene at the end where two cyclists are at the
    front of the race and one cyclist deliberately leans into another cyclist over an extended period
    clearly trying to make him crash.


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Don't let this type of behaviour scare you off. Like others have said, its mostly just for
    the movies. You will almost never see this type of thing happen (at least intentionally) in a
    real race.

    - Boyd S.

    You've never ridden a Highland Games grass track meet then, Boyd? "This type of behaviour" is
    compulsory there.

    Regards! Stephen

  9. "Boyd Speerschneider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Matt Cahill) wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I just saw the movie "American Flyer". There is a scene at the end where two cyclists are at the
    front of the race and one cyclist deliberately leans into another cyclist over an extended
    period clearly trying to make him crash. I have seen tapes of actual races where sprinters are
    relegated to last place when they engage in “dangerous sprinting”. So here are my
    questions:

    1. Wouldn’t an official be in position to see such behavior at the front of a race and
    penalize the cyclist who is deliberately attempting to wreck the other.

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    2. If a cyclist was regularly so dirty…wouldn’t his fellow peleton members have
    already taken care of him long before he even got to that position. After all, such a
    rider would be a threat to the earnings and lives of all the peleton members.

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:

    I've never raced, so I'm looking for the opinions of people who have.

    Don't let this type of behaviour scare you off. Like others have said, its mostly just for
    the movies. You will almost never see this type of thing happen (at least intentionally) in a
    real race.

    But do be careful of opponents jamming a frame pump into your front wheel.

    dave h

  10. Yes and yes.
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