American Classic road hubs

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Is anyone a fan of these hubs? If so, why? Also, what are the negatives?
I'm considering a set of wheels made with them and my past experiences

have

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all been with Campy and Shimamo hubs.

Thx,

Cal

I've got a set of custom wheels that were built up by Mike Garcia at
www.oddsandendos.com. They've got the American Classic micro hub on the
front and their new, high flange, lightweight rear hub (can't recall the
name right off). The front is 24 spoke radially laced to a Velocity
Aerohead rim. The rear is 28 spokes and I believe they're 2-cross and also
laced to Vel. Aero. rim.

I've probably got 2,000 miles on them. They're my climbing wheels, but I've
used them for a few training rides and I live in an area with mostly rough,
tar and gravel roads. They seem to be doing quite well.

The hubs are smooth and the rear is quiet. I've had no problems with the
wheels whatsoever.

I've read that the rear hub is unnecessarily difficult to service. I can't
elaborate. I don't remember where I read that and it was a few months back.
The American Classic website has all kinds of info on the hubs, so I can't
image they'd be all that hard to figure out.

Anyway, I got a really nice set of wheels built up for somewhere around $350
(set) that are quite light and are holding up well. Time will tell.

Bob C.

Been using the hub for 3 years and a few design changes. Two 19mm wrenches
and a screwdriver are all that is needed for disassembly, press fits for
cartridge R+R. When you get a good one, it is really good. Some have had
Q.C. problems, but that seems to be the first runs.
With over 100 wheels built, including 5 on tandems, I've replaced one
lunched freehub body, 3 rears for bearings, 3 front bearings. In other
words, normal. Other observations: until the most recent variation, the
right flange was 2mm too far inboard, solved by an "elbows out" lace on the
right. Newest versions and the Ritchey ones have typical right flange
placement. The new version is 205 gm (3 beam). Older models, 255.
58 new micro front. Ritchey rear is 220gm.
Tom
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"WTF,O" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Is anyone a fan of these hubs? If so, why? Also, what are the

negatives?

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I'm considering a set of wheels made with them and my past experiences

have

Quoted message said:

all been with Campy and Shimamo hubs.

Thx,

Cal

I've got a set of custom wheels that were built up by Mike Garcia at
www.oddsandendos.com. They've got the American Classic micro hub on the
front and their new, high flange, lightweight rear hub (can't recall the
name right off). The front is 24 spoke radially laced to a Velocity
Aerohead rim. The rear is 28 spokes and I believe they're 2-cross and

also

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laced to Vel. Aero. rim.

I've probably got 2,000 miles on them. They're my climbing wheels, but

I've

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used them for a few training rides and I live in an area with mostly

rough,

Quoted message said:

tar and gravel roads. They seem to be doing quite well.

The hubs are smooth and the rear is quiet. I've had no problems with the
wheels whatsoever.

I've read that the rear hub is unnecessarily difficult to service. I

can't

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elaborate. I don't remember where I read that and it was a few months

back.

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The American Classic website has all kinds of info on the hubs, so I can't
image they'd be all that hard to figure out.

Anyway, I got a really nice set of wheels built up for somewhere around

$350

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(set) that are quite light and are holding up well. Time will tell.

Bob C.

bikerdoc-<< Is anyone a fan of these hubs? If so, why? Also, what are the
negatives?
I'm considering a set of wheels made with them and my past experiences have
all been with Campy and Shimamo hubs. >><BR><BR>

Considering the weights, ease of service, price and availability of parts, hard
to beat Campagnolo(Record, Chorus, Centaur) and 7700, 6500 from shimano. These,
along with other heavily marketed hubsets, don't really make for a better
wheelset.

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

psycholist said:

I've got a set of custom wheels that were built up by Mike Garcia at
www.oddsandendos.com. They've got the American Classic micro hub on
the front and their new, high flange, lightweight rear hub (can't
recall the name right off). The front is 24 spoke radially laced to
a Velocity Aerohead rim. The rear is 28 spokes and I believe
they're 2-cross and also laced to Vel. Aero. rim.

I've probably got 2,000 miles on them. They're my climbing wheels,

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Out of curiosity, what's the weight of those rims? It always seems
odd to me to use a heavy aero rim for "climbing wheels" but perhaps
these are lighter than most.

Tim McNamara said:

Out of curiosity, what's the weight of those rims? It always seems
odd to me to use a heavy aero rim for "climbing wheels" but perhaps
these are lighter than most.

Aeroheads are actually quite light, in the low-400g range.

Matt O.

Matt O'Toole said:

Tim McNamara said:

Out of curiosity, what's the weight of those rims? It always seems
odd to me to use a heavy aero rim for "climbing wheels" but perhaps
these are lighter than most.

Aeroheads are actually quite light, in the low-400g range.

Well, then, that's comparable to most clincher rims. Thanks!

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bikerdoc-<< Is anyone a fan of these hubs? If so, why? Also, what are the
negatives?
I'm considering a set of wheels made with them and my past experiences have
all been with Campy and Shimamo hubs. >><BR><BR>

Considering the weights, ease of service, price and availability of parts, hard
to beat Campagnolo(Record, Chorus, Centaur) and 7700, 6500 from shimano. These,
along with other heavily marketed hubsets, don't really make for a better
wheelset.

When you say "These along with other heavily marked hubsets", you mean
boutique hubs like American Classic, Chris King, White, Hugi, Tune and
others that are NOT the Campy or Shimano ones you mentioned, correct?

bfd-<< When you say "These along with other heavily marked hubsets", you mean
boutique hubs like American Classic, Chris King, White, Hugi, Tune and
others that are NOT the Campy or Shimano ones you mentioned, correct?

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Thas what I mean-

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

tim-<< Out of curiosity, what's the weight of those rims? It always seems
odd to me to use a heavy aero rim for "climbing wheels" but perhaps
these are lighter than most. >><BR><BR>

Aeroheads are not 'heavy aero rims' at all. The lightest clincher Velocity
makes-about 415 grams or so. Only about 1cm 'deep'..

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

Tim-<< Well, then, that's comparable to most clincher rims. Thanks! >><BR><BR>

Not to be too picky but most all other clincher rims are heavier, from Mavic,
Torelli, Ambrosio, Sun, etc..

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"