Always feeling ill, tonsillitis?

Just my experience A few years ago I had the same simptoms except for the cold intolerance. I felt
absolutely down. My tonsils were infected, and I continuosly felt a sore throat. I resisted surgery
(tonsills out) for some months, then subsised. I got better, but then I am not 100% sure that it was
due to the tonsils. One thing seemed to me: when someone tonsiils are infected (not ocasionally) but
for several months may be better to have them out. Other thing: large tonsiils do not necessarily
means infection. Sometimes the small ones are the most troublesome.

just Nico

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I have never understood why, when a patient sees a doctor who makes a diagnosis very quickly,
the patient tends to interpret that as evidence that the doctor must be very knowledgeable and
therefore correct

Hi,

I just wanted to clarify that I don't think the doctor was being hasty. He was aware of my past
history, and he did discuss the issue with me thoroughly. He examined my throat, and saw the
state of my tonsils. He said that they looked very irregular and displayed a lot of scarring,
and that they were probably of no use to me because of this, and were quite obviously bound to
cause problems.

I don't think he was looking for a quick diagnosis, more that IN MY PARTICULAR CASE, the course
of action appeared obvious. It was also clear that he wasn't saying 'you must have a
tonsillectomy', but rather offering it as the most likely solution to my problems, should I
choose such a course of action.

That's good to hear! Please let us know how you fare post-operatively.

PF

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That's good to hear! Please let us know how you fare post-operatively.

PF

Hi all,

Well, 3 weeks from having started the thread, I've had the tonsillectomy performed. I'm now on the
3rd day since having the surgery done (almost exactly 48 hours), and yes, it is PRETTY painful. The
earache, as predicted, has come on today, and the throat is still swollen. All of the pain however
is only triggered by swallowing, so I wouldn't claim to be in constant pain. I'm on painkillers
(some derivative of codin), anti-inflammatory medication and anti-biotics. Am also feeling groggy
too, a bit woozy, though well enough to get on-line or wash the car!

I'm sure there may be more painful days than this, though the first 3 post-op days are hardly the
most easy. The surgeon mentioned ear ache as the major side-effect after the swelling and general
discomfort, but he didn't talk about bleeding as being very likely in his experience. I've found out
that since going to him, he's considered one of the best in his field round here, and very adept at
tonsillectomies. As for the resolution of my symptoms, it's obviously to soon to tell (post-op
trauma, pain and general dazy confusedness make it hard to judge!) but of course I shall be posting
again soon to update y'all.

Thanks.

P.S. anyone have any recommendations as to how to handle my recovery (eating/drinking/medication)?
I've been instructed since day one to eat as normal, and i have had proper meals, but mixed in
with a heady diet of ice lollies and ice cream...everything in moderation i say! Also, are
bleeding and earache almost certain post-op, or more of a rarity? I was led to believe (and
have only experienced) ear-ache being a side-effect, not bleeding.

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Just my experience A few years ago I had the same simptoms except for the cold intolerance. I felt
absolutely down. My tonsils were infected, and I continuosly felt a sore throat. I resisted
surgery (tonsills out) for some months, then subsised. I got better, but then I am not 100% sure
that it was due to the tonsils. One thing seemed to me: when someone tonsiils are infected (not
ocasionally) but for several months may be better to have them out. Other thing: large tonsiils do
not necessarily means infection. Sometimes the small ones are the most troublesome.

Hi,

I definitely see your point, and with symptoms as subtle as these, it makes sense to look at other
avenues. There's no way of telling if the tonsils are the cause or the response to the infections.
The thing for me though is that my tonsils are more than just enlarged, they're scarred and
jagged, and red a lot of the time. In the state they are, it's hard to imagine them NOT causing
problems. Also, my sypmtoms have persisted for years (apparently, assuming it IS the tonsils
causing the problem, the older you get then the less likely the problem is to go away). By the
way, I can't tell when you say 'I resisted surgery (tonsils out) for some months, then subsided'
what actually happened. Did you actually get your tonsils out in the end?

Thanks.

Hi Glad to know everything went al-right. The only time (as as adult) I was in tears in front of my
parents was after tonsillectomy. The pos-operation throat pain was excrutiating (sorry I did not say
this before to avoid scare you). I was unable to speak for about 5 days. As for the food I avoided
solids in the first few days.I did eat lots of soups and purees. As I do not like ice cream, did not
eat any contrary to doctors advice. I did not have ear pain or bleeding.

enjoy tour ice-creams and get well fast....

just Nico

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That's good to hear! Please let us know how you fare post-operatively.

PF

Hi all,

Well, 3 weeks from having started the thread, I've had the tonsillectomy performed. I'm now on the
3rd day since having the surgery done (almost exactly 48 hours), and yes, it is PRETTY painful.
The earache, as predicted, has come on today, and the throat is still swollen. All of the pain
however is only triggered by swallowing, so I wouldn't claim to be in constant pain. I'm on
painkillers (some derivative of codin), anti-inflammatory medication and anti-biotics. Am also
feeling groggy too, a bit woozy, though well enough to get on-line or wash the car!

I'm sure there may be more painful days than this, though the first 3 post-op days are hardly the
most easy. The surgeon mentioned ear ache as the major side-effect after the swelling and general
discomfort, but he didn't talk about bleeding as being very likely in his experience. I've found
out that since going to him, he's considered one of the best in his field round here, and very
adept at tonsillectomies. As for the resolution of my symptoms, it's obviously to soon to tell (post-
op trauma, pain and general dazy confusedness make it hard to judge!) but of course I shall be
posting again soon to update y'all.

Thanks.

P.S. anyone have any recommendations as to how to handle my recovery (eating/drinking/medication)?
I've been instructed since day one to eat as normal, and i have had proper meals, but mixed
in with a heady diet of ice lollies and ice cream...everything in moderation i say! Also, are
bleeding and earache almost certain post-op, or more of a rarity? I was led to believe (and
have only experienced) ear-ache being a side-effect, not bleeding.

Hi,

Well just another update, I'm on the sixth night since the operation now. Am surprised at how
persistent the symptoms are, i thought by now I'd be feeling pretty ok. The swollen throat is still
there, as is the ear ache, plus an increasing tightness where the wounds are. The pain comes and
goes, right now for example I'm pretty ok, swallowing is only mildly uncomfortable. Annoyingly I've
been feeling feverish and clammy the past four nights, and have run a temperature at times. Could it
be post-op fever? A new infection? Something I went into the operation with? Am on anti-biotics just
to play it safe.

Laters.

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Hi Glad to know everything went al-right. The only time (as as adult) I was in tears in front of
my parents was after tonsillectomy. The pos-operation throat pain was excrutiating (sorry I did
not say this before to avoid scare you). I was unable to speak for about 5 days. As for the food I
avoided solids in the first few days.I did eat lots of soups and purees. As I do not like ice
cream, did not eat any contrary to doctors advice. I did not have ear pain or bleeding.

enjoy tour ice-creams and get well fast....

Dude, if that is the same antibiotic you were already on, then i think u should call your Dr, and he
may call u in a different Rx to pick up at the pharmacy.

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Hi,

Well just another update, I'm on the sixth night since the operation
now. Am surprised at how persistent the symptoms are, i thought by now
I'd be feeling pretty ok. The swollen throat is still there, as is the
ear ache, plus an increasing tightness where the wounds are. The pain
comes and goes, right now for example I'm pretty ok, swallowing is
only mildly uncomfortable. Annoyingly I've been feeling feverish and
clammy the past four nights, and have run a temperature at times.
Could it be post-op fever? A new infection? Something I went into the
operation with? Am on anti-biotics just to play it safe.

Laters.

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Hi
Glad to know everything went al-right.
The only time (as as adult) I was in tears in front of my parents was
after tonsillectomy. The pos-operation throat pain was excrutiating
(sorry I did not say this before to avoid scare you). I was unable to
speak for about 5 days. As for the food I avoided solids in the first
few days.I did eat lots of soups and purees. As I do not like ice
cream, did not eat any contrary to doctors advice. I did not have ear
pain or bleeding.

enjoy tour ice-creams and get well fast....

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Dude, if that is the same antibiotic you were already on, then i think u should call your Dr, and
he may call u in a different Rx to pick up at the pharmacy.

Hiya,

Nope, I'm on a different anti-biotics to the original ones they gave me coming out of the
operation. Am feeling better gradually, though ever so slowly (8th day post-op!). I don't worry
about the earaches, throat pain or discomfort in the actual wound area, that's a given with this
operation. What's worrying me is the general feeling of ill health (chills, sweating, etc.), coz I
underwent this operation precisely to rid myself of those symptoms!!!

Hi,

Yep, your point about not throwing in the towel is right, I need to be fully healed at least
before I can start to make judgements on whether it's worked or not. Guess I've just been getting
a little fed up, and panicky. Besides, I'm not running a temperature anymore, and chills are much
less. Still feeling pretty weak and disorientated, though that's improved a bit today too. Am
sweating quite a bit actually, but I understand that if that's the only symptom (no fever, chills,
etc.) then it can be a GOOD sign, that your body is finally winning against the infections that
its fighting.

As for the earache, yeah, it's been surprisingly persistent. The surgeon warned me to expect it,
which is why I haven't done anything. I'll give it another 3 days, if not then I'll take something
to help it. Or would you recommend taking action sooner?

Thanks.

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Dang eight days seems like a long time, but so long as its getting better... Dude, take some
Dimetapp for the pressure on your ear it's not good to keep pressure on your ears like that.
Possibly after your throat finishes healing, the chills and other sx will go away, it's too early
to throw in the towel.

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Dude, hopefully your ear pain is gone by now, i've been told that the pressure on the ear can lead
to an infection, so Dimetapp is a safe way to go. They say, that if you press on the area behind
the ear, that it will hurt if you have an ear infection.

Don't let yourself get dehydrated or sick from not eating and drinking. If your feeling weak and
disoriented then u probably need to do more of both, unless of course u are diabetic.

Hi,

Things took a turn for the worse on thursday night (4 days ago). One of the tonsil beds started
bleeding without my knowledge, at about midnight. It felt like a sore throat and swelling, so I
dismissed it, and because the bleed was near the back of the throat, the blood wasn't entering my
mouth for me to taste it and realise what was going on. So I went to bed, and woke up at 4am, the
same sensation but this time unbearable. I started pacing about, then started to feel nauseous,
ran to the bathroom but didn't make it. Vomitted what looked like a huge amount of blood, probably
about 2 pints in reality, then went into shock and the ambulance had to come. Got admitted into
hospital, stayed till Saturday, no further bleeding.

My haemoglobin count was still low (under 11) when they let me out, and I can't believe how feeble
I've been feeling, even standing up is a chore. What's frustrating is that before the bleed, I was
still pretty weak and dizzy, and this has only added to it. I started doing stuff again today even
though I should've rested, because doing nothing 14 days straight has been driving me insane. Now I
feel more irritable and achey than ever, like I'm on the verge of some major fever. Funny, those
are the exact same symptoms I was looking to rid myself of by having the tonsillectomy! I really
didn't expect to be feeling like this 14 days on...

Hi,

Just an update on what's been happening. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I had a bleed, 9 days
post-op. Lost about 2 units of blood, went into hospital for about 2 days, then back out. Well I had
ANOTHER bleed 14 days post-op, went back into hospital. Lost more blood, stayed in and bled AGAIN on
the 18th day post-op (luckily while still in hospital). They finally took me back to theatre that
night, to suture both pairs of tonsil pillars on both sides of my throat, and pack the tonsil beds
with kaltostat (a seaweed-type packing/gauze pad, to keep pressure on the area and minimise
bleeding).

Overall I've had 5 units of blood transfused, am back at home now and feeling better (25th day post-
op, still pretty weak though). The left side of my throat has been feeling sore, and i've got an
earache again (pretty mild though). Anyone think I can safely say i'm 'in the clear' yet? Still
worried about keeping the tonsil areas clean, and further bleeding. Sutures won't dissolve for
another week, and the packing for another 3.

Thanks.

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Dude, hopefully your ear pain is gone by now, i've been told that the pressure on the ear can lead
to an infection, so Dimetapp is a safe way to go. They say, that if you press on the area behind
the ear, that it will hurt if you have an ear infection.

Don't let yourself get dehydrated or sick from not eating and drinking. If your feeling weak and
disoriented then u probably need to do more of both, unless of course u are diabetic.

Dang eight days seems like a long time, but so long as its getting better... Dude, take some
Dimetapp for the pressure on your ear it's not good to keep pressure on your ears like that.
Possibly after your throat finishes healing, the chills and other sx will go away, it's too early to
throw in the towel.

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Dude, if that is the same antibiotic you were already on,
then i think u should call your Dr, and he may call u in
a different Rx to pick up at the pharmacy.

Hiya,

Nope, I'm on a different anti-biotics to the original ones they gave
me coming out of the operation. Am feeling better gradually, though
ever so slowly (8th day post-op!). I don't worry about the earaches,
throat pain or discomfort in the actual wound area, that's a given
with this operation. What's worrying me is the general feeling of ill
health (chills, sweating, etc.), coz I underwent this operation
precisely to rid myself of those symptoms!!!

Dude, hopefully your ear pain is gone by now, i've been told that the pressure on the ear can lead
to an infection, so Dimetapp is a safe way to go. They say, that if you press on the area behind the
ear, that it will hurt if you have an ear infection.

Don't let yourself get dehydrated or sick from not eating and drinking. If your feeling weak and
disoriented then u probably need to do more of both, unless of course u are diabetic.
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Hi,

Yep, your point about not throwing in the towel is right, I need to
be fully healed at least before I can start to make judgements on
whether it's worked or not. Guess I've just been getting a little fed
up, and panicky. Besides, I'm not running a temperature anymore, and
chills are much less. Still feeling pretty weak and disorientated,
though that's improved a bit today too. Am sweating quite a bit
actually, but I understand that if that's the only symptom (no fever,
chills, etc.) then it can be a GOOD sign, that your body is finally
winning against the infections that its fighting.

As for the earache, yeah, it's been surprisingly persistent. The
surgeon warned me to expect it, which is why I haven't done anything.
I'll give it another 3 days, if not then I'll take something to help
it. Or would you recommend taking action sooner?

Thanks.

Hey,

You are really having a hard time with this!!! Are you sure you are not diabetic, you know they tend
to heal much slower than other people? Being 22, it seems you should heal quicker. I used to work
with an RN who was fanatic about diabetes. She was a diabetic also, so every time any man would have
even one symptom of diabetes she would ask if his mom was diabetic. Most of the male diabetics'
mothers were diabetic, but with some of them it was their grandmother. Only a couple of the male
diabetics appeared to have gotten it from their Dads' side. She was actually responsible for the
diagnoses of a few (probably more) diabetics.

Anyway, if you feel like you are getting a major infection, try cranberry fruit capsules. They're
not that expensive, and they'll knock out a fever within 8 hours. I've used them allot, and even
though they are not an antibiotic they work just as good. I usually end up using the Spring Valley
brand at Wal-Mart, 4 caps 4 times a day for 7 to 10 days. I know you don't believe me, but they work
and usually pretty fast.

Dude, make sure you drink allot of water to replace fluids you have lost. Your blood pressure may be
running low due to the blood loss which will also make you dizzy and weak. If you're still having
pressure on your ear drums, that can also make u dizzy . Don't forget to sit for a while and get
your bearings before getting out of bed. (Hopefully your DR has a follow-up appt scheduled?)

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Hi,

Things took a turn for the worse on thursday night (4 days ago). One
of the tonsil beds started bleeding without my knowledge, at about
midnight. It felt like a sore throat and swelling, so I dismissed it,
and because the bleed was near the back of the throat, the blood
wasn't entering my mouth for me to taste it and realise what was going
on. So I went to bed, and woke up at 4am, the same sensation but this
time unbearable. I started pacing about, then started to feel
nauseous, ran to the bathroom but didn't make it. Vomitted what looked
like a huge amount of blood, probably about 2 pints in reality, then
went into shock and the ambulance had to come. Got admitted into
hospital, stayed till Saturday, no further bleeding.

My haemoglobin count was still low (under 11) when they let me out,
and I can't believe how feeble I've been feeling, even standing up is
a chore. What's frustrating is that before the bleed, I was still
pretty weak and dizzy, and this has only added to it. I started doing
stuff again today even though I should've rested, because doing
nothing 14 days straight has been driving me insane. Now I feel more
irritable and achey than ever, like I'm on the verge of some major
fever. Funny, those are the exact same symptoms I was looking to rid
myself of by having the tonsillectomy! I really didn't expect to be
feeling like this 14 days on...

Good luck dude, i hope it heals up right this time 🙂 I would not dare to venture a guess as whether
u are in the clear *shaking head*
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Hi,

Just an update on what's been happening. As I mentioned earlier in the
thread, I had a bleed, 9 days post-op. Lost about 2 units of blood,
went into hospital for about 2 days, then back out. Well I had ANOTHER
bleed 14 days post-op, went back into hospital. Lost more blood,
stayed in and bled AGAIN on the 18th day post-op (luckily while still
in hospital). They finally took me back to theatre that night, to
suture both pairs of tonsil pillars on both sides of my throat, and
pack the tonsil beds with kaltostat (a seaweed-type packing/gauze pad,
to keep pressure on the area and minimise bleeding).

Overall I've had 5 units of blood transfused, am back at home now and
feeling better (25th day post-op, still pretty weak though). The left
side of my throat has been feeling sore, and i've got an earache again
(pretty mild though). Anyone think I can safely say i'm 'in the clear'
yet? Still worried about keeping the tonsil areas clean, and further
bleeding. Sutures won't dissolve for another week, and the packing for
another 3.

Thanks.

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Dude, hopefully your ear pain is gone by now, i've been told that the
pressure
on the ear can lead to an infection, so Dimetapp is a safe way to go.
They say, that if you press on the area behind the ear, that it will

hurt if

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you have
an ear infection.

Don't let yourself get dehydrated or sick from not eating and drinking.
If your feeling weak and disoriented then u probably need to do more of
both,
unless of course u are diabetic.

Deathray said:

Dang eight days seems like a long time, but so long as its getting better... Dude, take some
Dimetapp for the pressure on your ear it's not good to keep pressure on your ears like that.
Possibly after your throat finishes healing, the chills and other sx will go away, it's too early
to throw in the towel.

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~Ray~

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Dude, if that is the same antibiotic you were already on, then i think u should call your Dr,
and he may call u in a different Rx to pick up at the pharmacy.

Hiya,

Nope, I'm on a different anti-biotics to the original ones they gave me coming out of the
operation. Am feeling better gradually, though ever so slowly (8th day post-op!). I don't
worry about the earaches, throat pain or discomfort in the actual wound area, that's a given
with this operation. What's worrying me is the general feeling of ill health (chills,
sweating, etc.), coz I underwent this operation precisely to rid myself of those symptoms!!!

You trusted an ALLOPATH??? YIKES MAN...I wish you;ld contacted me first...EAR ACHES are
"CONGESTIVE in nature and there are a few ways to dispell them IF you know the cause?? A GOOD
decongestant would be a start! IRRIGATION of the ears from outside and clearing the Eustacian
tubes from within with anti-inflamatories. LOTS of VITAMIN "C" Once a KNIFE has been
used..healing even takes longer if ever! B-0b1

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You trusted an ALLOPATH??? YIKES MAN...I wish you;ld contacted me first...EAR ACHES are
"CONGESTIVE in nature and there are a few ways to dispell them IF you know the cause??

Someone hasn't read the whole thread, has he?

"The cause" would be tonsillectomy totally unrelated to his ears.

You knew that, right? ;-)