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  1. Why isn't there a aluminium round crown trial frame on the market?
    It could be good for people who hit there knees against the flat crown
    trialframe and want a light round crown frame instead.
    I know there is the XTP, but that thing is SOO overpriced and not even
    that strong.

    So who want's to make the first aluminium round crown trial frame? :p

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    habbywall said:

    I bet yoggi would like that. It looks comfortable for nude riding.

    kris.lee said:

    as far as i know, you dont like the koxx unis, you love KH:p

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    OWNED!!!!

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    just like that time you got owned by that tennis net?


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  2. i jus wanna point out that the xtp is not as weak as you say. its
    stronger than the kris holm frame, proven cos i seen so many convos on
    forums and spoken to ppl. several broken 07 kh frames snapped, and not
    even 1 production xtp has snapped yet. (n yeah i know that yoggis
    prototype from 3 years ago snapped cos its a proto! i bet kh protos
    broke too!). one of my friends has had an xtp frame for a bit under a
    year now and he is harsh as hell and no crack even. i know that joe
    hodges cracked 2 but from what i hear on this forum he hasnt been able
    to snap either and the cracks have not spread one bit and hes snapped 2
    kh frames in under 6 months each whilst none of his xtps have even had
    their cracks spread.

    so yeah, i rode my friends xtp loadsa times, and is a sweet ass uni for
    trials. i know kh bummers will slate it but it is stronger than u guys
    think.

    as for round crown frame in alu, no one can be bothered cos uni is such
    a small sport. Steel is damn simple to weld compared to aluminium and
    so on, and alu can crack easy which means trouble with warranty and
    lodsa other things with the manufactuer and brand. people wanna avoid
    hassle and if u think about it only very few ppl will bother buying a
    round crown alu frame when u got the kh about and all the steel frames.

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  3. uhm
    let me think... I KNOW I KNOW!!!
    an AX FRAME!!
    i wonder if it will work, i have never seen one in person.

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  4. but torker uses small bearings, and machined holders. so it would only
    work with a dx or profile wheelset.

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  5. hmm
    unless you bent the bearing holders slightly
    the bearing holders arent as much of a problem as the tire clearance
    is, does anyone know if a trials wheelset will fit in the frame?

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  6. skrobo said:

    hmm
    unless you bent the bearing holders slightly
    the bearing holders arent as much of a problem as the tire clearance
    is, does anyone know if a trials wheelset will fit in the frame?

    ive thought about trying. next time im up at the bike shop ill see if i
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  7. skrobo said:

    unless you bent the bearing holders slightly

    Or you could machine it out more... if they're machined like the DX
    ones.. well those ones are actually forged.... but same idea, they're
    not metal just bent into shape.

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  8. manicpanicmuni said:

    i jus wanna point out that the xtp is not as weak as you say. its
    stronger than the kris holm frame, proven cos i seen so many convos on
    forums and spoken to ppl. several broken 07 kh frames snapped, and not
    even 1 production xtp has snapped yet. (n yeah i know that yoggis
    prototype from 3 years ago snapped cos its a proto! i bet kh protos
    broke too!). one of my friends has had an xtp frame for a bit under a
    year now and he is harsh as hell and no crack even. i know that joe
    hodges cracked 2 but from what i hear on this forum he hasnt been able
    to snap either and the cracks have not spread one bit and hes snapped 2
    kh frames in under 6 months each whilst none of his xtps have even had
    their cracks spread.

    so yeah, i rode my friends xtp loadsa times, and is a sweet ass uni for
    trials. i know kh bummers will slate it but it is stronger than u guys
    think.

    as for round crown frame in alu, no one can be bothered cos uni is such
    a small sport. Steel is damn simple to weld compared to aluminium and
    so on, and alu can crack easy which means trouble with warranty and
    lodsa other things with the manufactuer and brand. people wanna avoid
    hassle and if u think about it only very few ppl will bother buying a
    round crown alu frame when u got the kh about and all the steel frames.

    and how many people ride xtps? 4? seriously the KH is way more tested
    and without a doubt more riden. you can not say oh the XTP is a better
    frame. till their are close to the same number riden. unless you are
    just ignorant.

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    gordito8me said:

    it's like running across the highway at rush hour. Dangerous, stupid,
    but not really that fun.

    skianduniaddict said:

    never give 4 teenagers a camera... they go crazy

    johnfoss said:

    Yes, being old makes you stupid.


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  9. I only saw koxx riders with the xtp and I dont think they are allowed to
    say if they break something as you can see at the trouble which Joe get
    when Sponge wrote that he damaged the XTP.

    But I dont think that there is a market for a round trials frame.
    Nearly all trials rider enjoy it to do a little bit street or glide
    down a hill.

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  10. Lutz said:

    I only saw koxx riders with the xtp and I dont think they are allowed to
    say if they break something as you can see at the trouble which Joe get
    when Sponge wrote that he damaged the XTP.

    But I dont think that there is a market for a round trials frame.
    Nearly all trials rider enjoy it to do a little bit street or glide
    down a hill.

    I'd like to point out that Yoggi and other 'head honchos' over at Koxx
    overreacted at that situation. First of all, that XTP was lent to me
    for a long time by Joe, he was not the one who found the crack. I did.
    With all that being said, that particular XTP was bought from
    unicycle.com and not given out by Koxx, so they were shattering their
    own reputation for nothing.

    I'd also like to clear up the issue shrouding the XTP. Yes, fewer
    people have it, and yes it is overpriced. No doubt about those 2
    points. However, look at it logically:

    Joe- snapped 2 KH frames in front of my eyes in under 6 months each
    - put a small crack in XTP around 6 months and still going strong,
    (the crack hasn't even spread,
    _no_that_is_not_an_exaggeration_at_all_).

    ^I posted up pictures of the slightly cracked XTP and this whole
    community freaked out way more than I expected, I guess the some people
    were looking for an excuse to put their beloved KHs over the XTP.

    Right now, I can confidently say that the XTP is stronger, especially
    the newer ones with the gusset welded on the seattube-crown weld. The
    price is still ridiculous and this is where all the hated and jealousy
    of some people stem from. _It's_a_frame..._ Don't get me wrong at all:
    the KH is a brilliant frame and extremely good value for money, but the
    XTP is simply stronger. I've tried both out and borrowed them both for
    a long time and on top of that I ride regularly with someone who breaks
    things all the time and so far he's having a damn hard time doing any
    more damage to his XTP.

    As for round-crown alu frame, I don't really know of any trials-worthy
    ones right now, but it wouldn't be a bad idea because round crowns are
    supposed to be a stronger design than the slightly more complex square
    crowns.

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  11. Sponge said:

    I'd like to point out that Yoggi and other 'head honchos' over at Koxx
    overreacted at that situation. First of all, that XTP was lent to me
    for a long time by Joe, he was not the one who found the crack. I did.
    With all that being said, that particular XTP was bought from
    unicycle.com and not given out by Koxx, so they were shattering their
    own reputation for nothing.

    I'd also like to clear up the issue shrouding the XTP. Yes, fewer
    people have it, and yes it is overpriced. No doubt about those 2
    points. However, look at it logically:

    Joe- snapped 2 KH frames in front of my eyes in under 6 months each
    - put a small crack in XTP around 6 months and still going strong,
    (the crack hasn't even spread,
    _no_that_is_not_an_exaggeration_at_all_).

    ^I posted up pictures of the slightly cracked XTP and this whole
    community freaked out way more than I expected, I guess the some people
    were looking for an excuse to put their beloved KHs over the XTP.

    Right now, I can confidently say that the XTP is stronger, especially
    the newer ones with the gusset welded on the seattube-crown weld. The
    price is still ridiculous and this is where all the hated and jealousy
    of some people stem from. _It's_a_frame..._ Don't get me wrong at all:
    the KH is a brilliant frame and extremely good value for money, but the
    XTP is simply stronger. I've tried both out and borrowed them both for
    a long time and on top of that I ride regularly with someone who breaks
    things all the time and so far he's having a damn hard time doing any
    more damage to his XTP.

    As for round-crown alu frame, I don't really know of any trials-worthy
    ones right now, but it wouldn't be a bad idea because round crowns are
    supposed to be a stronger design than the slightly more complex square
    crowns.

    the only way to be as close to 100% percent sure as possible, about
    which frame was the strongest would be to make a machine that put
    pressure on the frame, and increased it till one broke. their is no
    point in doing that since very few KH or XTP frames have been broken
    and the point still stand they are each a very strong frame. some of
    the lack of likeing in the XTP may be due more to some of the actions
    of part of the Koxx team. (was it FLUCK they got kicked out of and
    refused to leave?).
    and yes while it took one really good rider 6 months each to break kh
    frame and only a crack in the same period of time on the xtp , points
    that the XTP is stonger. but trying to make a conclusion about which
    is stronger is ignorant of the fact of how they were treated,
    (scratches), amount of pressure put on them... etc.

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    it's like running across the highway at rush hour. Dangerous, stupid,
    but not really that fun.

    skianduniaddict said:

    never give 4 teenagers a camera... they go crazy

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    Yes, being old makes you stupid.


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  12. torkerdx said:

    the only way to be as close to 100% percent sure as possible, about
    which frame was the strongest would be to make a machine that put
    pressure on the frame, and increased it till one broke. their is no
    point in doing that since very few KH or XTP frames have been broken
    and the point still stand they are each a very strong frame. some of
    the lack of likeing in the XTP may be due more to some of the actions
    of part of the Koxx team. (was it FLUCK they got kicked out of and
    refused to leave?).
    and yes while it took one really good rider 6 months each to break kh
    frame and only a crack in the same period of time on the xtp , points
    that the XTP is stonger. but trying to make a conclusion about which
    is stronger is ignorant of the fact of how they were treated,
    (scratches), amount of pressure put on them... etc.

    Come over to my area, and I'll show you Joe's current XTP frame. It is
    COVERED in scratches and scrapes all over, and even a dent in one leg.
    When he bails on a line he lets the uni go, and he throws his uni a
    lot. From what I remember, his KHs were never as aesthetically
    'ruined'.

    The point is that people on this forum freaked out when I first posted
    pics of a slightly cracked XTP... so much more than when they see 3 or
    4 KH07frames snap. I'm purely pointing out that it's not as weak as you
    think. If you can get one cheap if you're sponsored by a koxx
    distributor in your country for example, then go for it if you really
    are that into trials.

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  13. Check that frame out at 0:13 seconds.

    Looks just like a quax
    frame but rounded crown. And it even says quax.

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  14. thats just a normal frame no alu

    it's a frame like on standard unicycles

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  15. Sponge said:


    As for round-crown alu frame, I don't really know of any trials-worthy
    ones right now, but it wouldn't be a bad idea because round crowns are
    supposed to be a stronger design than the slightly more complex square
    crowns.

    So who will make the first trials-worthy round crown aluminium
    frame?🙄

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    habbywall said:

    I bet yoggi would like that. It looks comfortable for nude riding.

    kris.lee said:

    as far as i know, you dont like the koxx unis, you love KH:p

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    OWNED!!!!

    iridemymuni said:

    just like that time you got owned by that tennis net?


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