alternative road bikes.

complience said:

been thinking about buy a road bike ..🙂 as many of you know..
when i came across these and i wondered what you guys thought of em.
its called a cyclecross bike and its surposed to be a cross between a
mountian and road bike. Looks just like road bike with moutianbikeish
wheels on to me.

Very similar to a road bike, but will have larger clearances between the
stays for mud clearance, the bottom bracket will be a bit higher, the
frame geometry will be different, and it'll have cantilever brakes.Quite
similar to road-touring bikes.

Quoted message said:

Why do road bikes for Triatheltes have handelbars that go up.. instead
of the ones that roll downwards like normal roadracers?

Wind resistance. You go faster if you are more aeordynamic.'Aero-bars'
make you more aerodynamic, as you will be lower, and a little more
stretched.
Alan.

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complience said:

been thinking about buy a road bike ..🙂 as many of you know..

when i came across these and i wondered what you guys thought of em.

its called a cyclecross bike and its surposed to be a cross between a
mountian and road bike. Looks just like road bike with moutianbikeish
wheels on to me.

It has bigger clearances than a road bike, because cyclocross races are
usually very muddy. Cantilever brakes are used because dual-pivots
would catch all the crud.

Quoted message said:

I also have another question thats been buggin me..

Why do road bikes for Triatheltes have handelbars that go up.. instead
of the ones that roll downwards like normal roadracers?

They're cow-horn (upswept) bars with tri-bars clipped on. The
triathletes spend virtually all the time on the tri-bars, so the
cowhorns just provide a hand position for starting off and tight
corners, plus somewhere convenient to mount brake levers.

It dont understand.. if these cowhorn bars offer a better postion.. why doesnt lance armstrong use them in the tour de france?

Quoted message said:

I also have another question thats been buggin me..

Why do road bikes for Triatheltes have handelbars that go up.. instead
of the ones that roll downwards like normal roadracers?

They're cow-horn (upswept) bars with tri-bars clipped on. The
triathletes spend virtually all the time on the tri-bars, so the
cowhorns just provide a hand position for starting off and tight
corners, plus somewhere convenient to mount brake levers.[/QUOTE]

complience said:

been thinking about buy a road bike ..🙂 as many of you know..

when i came across these and i wondered what you guys thought of em.

its called a cyclecross bike and its surposed to be a cross between a
mountian and road bike. Looks just like road bike with
moutianbikeish wheels on to me.

http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/05/ce/model-5XR8.html

I also have another question thats been buggin me..

Why do road bikes for Triatheltes have handelbars that go up.. instead
of the ones that roll downwards like normal roadracers?

Triathlons are not normal road races. They are time trials essentially and
you will see similar machines in road timetrials though I suspect the UCI
rules prevent some of the more radical designs these days.

complience said:

It dont understand.. if these cowhorn bars offer a better postion..
why doesnt lance armstrong use them in the tour de france?

Quoted message said:

I also have another question thats been buggin me..

Why do road bikes for Triatheltes have handelbars that go up..
instead of the ones that roll downwards like normal roadracers?

They're cow-horn (upswept) bars with tri-bars clipped on. The
triathletes spend virtually all the time on the tri-bars, so the
cowhorns just provide a hand position for starting off and tight
corners, plus somewhere convenient to mount brake levers.

They are not allowed for mass start road races.

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complience (') said:

I also have another question thats been buggin me..

Why do road bikes for Triatheltes have handelbars that go up.. instead
of the ones that roll downwards like normal roadracers?

These ones below explain what i mean
http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/05/ce/cats/TR.html

Triathletes and time-trialists ride as individuals rather than in a
bunch. There are usually no other riders around them. Consequently the
need for precise control is less and the need to be able to brake
suddenly is less. Furthermore, without other riders to break the wind
for you, aerodynamics are much more important.

You'll notice that these tri-bars have the brake levers on the
cow-horns, whereas the normal riding position is elbows in the rests
and hands on the forward extension. Consequently riding with tri-bars
you cannot instantly grab the brakes - you have to sit up, change your
posture, change your hand position first.

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so for recreational riding Trihorn bars are actualy better then?

complience said:

so for recreational riding Trihorn bars are actualy better then?

That depends on what sort of recreational riding you have in mind.
Twisty, turny stuff they'd not be much use, fairly flat and relatively
straight, much better. Drops are inherently more flexible in use

If you really want good aerodynamics then get a recumbent lowracer, but
you'll have to expand your budget a fair crack. These are faster than
conventional racers, and the reason they're not used in UCI races is
because the UCI banned them back in the 1930s. You can get slightly
detuned "semi lowracers" which are better suited to road use. Something
like http://www.londonrecumbents.co.uk/index.php?id=250

Pete.
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Quoted message said:

They are not allowed for mass start road races.

Not under BCF/UCI rules & regs, anyhow. I did hear a rumour that
someone used them in a TLI event and race officials didn't bat an
eyelid. Mind you, not allowing tri-bars of any sort in massed-start
events is A Good Thing; was it just me, or did the number of crashes
in Le Tour rocket a few years ago (the Passage du Gois causeway
pile-up being the notable incident) when people started experimenting
with Spinacis and similar brands of mini-extensions?

David E. Belcher

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Quoted message said:

complience said:

so for recreational riding Trihorn bars are actualy better then?

That depends on what sort of recreational riding you have in mind.
Twisty, turny stuff they'd not be much use

If mounted atop ordinary drop bars (as a lot of TTers do), they'd
probably compromise your handling if there was any serious cornering
to be done. And they add front-end weight which may prove a nuisance
in the hills.

David E. Belcher

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Quoted message said:

complience said:

so for recreational riding Trihorn bars are actualy better then?

That depends on what sort of recreational riding you have in mind.
Twisty, turny stuff they'd not be much use

If mounted atop ordinary drop bars (as a lot of TTers do), they'd
probably compromise your handling if there was any serious cornering
to be done. And they add front-end weight which may prove a nuisance
in the hills.

Errr.... no.

I habitually ride with a bar-bag which weighs more than a set of
tribars, and mounts ahead of the handlebars. Effect on steering? Above
walking pace, none. Effect on hill-climbing? none.

Allegedly heavy front panniers mounted high can cause negative steering
effects but not the weight of a set of tri-bars. The reason I don't
have them is simple: they'd interfere with my bar-bag, and it is more
useful.

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