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  1. New access laws start to bite...

    A long term problem, the fortified bridge over the Etive "behind" Stob
    Gabhar and below Beinn Mhic Chasgaig NN198512 seems to be now
    history.

    Got this mail from Dave Hewitt via the rhb group

    ~~~~~
    News from Mikes Dales at the MCofS that the notorious Alltchaoruinn
    gate
    (NN197513 on Landranger 41), scene of an access battle going back many
    years, finally appears to have had its fortifications removed.

    Mike heard yesterday that the estate factor had phoned John Hutcheson,
    the
    Lochaber access officer at Highland Council, to say that the estate
    had
    removed the padlock and barbed wire. Seemingly the padlock is still
    hanging
    on the gate, but isn't actually locking it.
    Mike says the estate backed down when they realised that Highland
    Council
    was serious about serving something called a section 14(2) order on
    them,
    under which a landowner can be told to remove an inappropriate sign or
    access barrier within three weeks or else the local authority will do
    it for
    them and then bill them for the work.
    The power to do this has come about via the new Scottish access law,
    but as
    yet no one - at least no estate - has been served with such a notice.
    Faced
    with being the first, the owners of Alltchaoruinn backed down. John
    Hutcheson had apparently written to the estate six times, and was
    preparing
    a paper for the relevant Highland Council committee, after which a
    14(2)
    would almost certainly have been served.
    This is called progress, I think...

    (Incidentally, the forthcoming TAC66, due out in something like two or
    three
    weeks from now, will include a comprehensive list of access officers
    in
    Scotland, ie the people to contact in similar situations to
    Alltchaoruinn.)

    Dave

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Richard Webb

  2. Richard Webb said:

    New access laws start to bite...

    A long term problem, the fortified bridge over the Etive "behind" Stob
    Gabhar and below Beinn Mhic Chasgaig NN198512 seems to be now
    history.

    Excellent news. In the debate over the Land Reform Bill, there was a lot
    of discussion about the use of the words "could" and "would" when it
    came to the councils' responsibility to ensure access. "Would" got the
    nod - thereby ensuring a statutory on the Council to react.

    druidh

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    Richard Webb said:

    New access laws start to bite...

    A long term problem, the fortified bridge over the Etive "behind" Stob
    Gabhar and below Beinn Mhic Chasgaig NN198512 seems to be now
    history.

    Excellent news. In the debate over the Land Reform Bill, there was a lot
    of discussion about the use of the words "could" and "would" when it
    came to the councils' responsibility to ensure access. "Would" got the
    nod - thereby ensuring a statutory on the Council to react.

    Strike one to the Land Reform Act.

    The Access Officer at Lochaber put pressure on the Estate under sec 14(2).
    If the Estate didn't remove the padlock then ultimately the council would
    and bill them for the work. The Estate have apparently backed down and say
    they've unlocked the padlock.

    I'm thinking of a trip to Beinn Mhic Chasgaig next week to check.

    --
    Duncan Gray

    The Mountaineering Council of Scotland
    www.mountaineering-scotland.org.uk

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    Quoted message said:

    New access laws start to bite...

    Thanks for that Richard.

    --
    Cheers,
    Compo - Good advice seen on a bottle: "Always keep out of reach of children"

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    Quoted message said:

    New access laws start to bite...

    A long term problem, the fortified bridge over the Etive "behind"


    Stob

    Quoted message said:

    Gabhar and below Beinn Mhic Chasgaig NN198512 seems to be now
    history.

    Got this mail from Dave Hewitt via the rhb group

    ~~~~~
    News from Mikes Dales at the MCofS that the notorious Alltchaoruinn
    gate
    (NN197513 on Landranger 41), scene of an access battle going back


    many

    Quoted message said:

    years, finally appears to have had its fortifications removed.

    Great News, have been pondering this one a while so it looks like a
    dry foot crossing will be possible

    We may even see a little flurry of activity as I think a number of
    people have delayed attempting this one due to the access uncertainty

    Cheers
    Graham

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    Quoted message said:

    New access laws start to bite...

    A long term problem, the fortified bridge over the Etive "behind" Stob
    Gabhar and below Beinn Mhic Chasgaig NN198512 seems to be now
    history.

    Hi Richard and all,

    I was in Glen Etive on Saturday to do Beinn Trilleachan. Thought about
    Beinn Mhic Chasgaig for Sunday, so stopped on the way back to check how
    easy it would be to climb over the gate - assuming it would be locked.

    I can confirm that the gate is no longer locked🙂

    Extraordinarily cold in a blustery wind on the top of BT - great hill
    with lots of interest. It was sluicing it down on Sunday morning so BMC
    was left for a better day.

    --

    Russ Clare

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