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Hey, dems fightin' words about the triple chainring. What, do you live
in Florida?

bill said:

...and so are clipless pedals, any shorts that aren't black, socks that
aren't white or longer than 3 inches above the shoe, clip-on "time
trial" handlebars, anything with the phrase "tri" attached to it, ahead
sets, wheels with fewer than 28 spokes, and all brakes with "dual
pivot" action.

Oh, and triple chainrings on a "racing" bike.

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bill said:

...and so are clipless pedals, any shorts that aren't black, socks that
aren't white or longer than 3 inches above the shoe, clip-on "time
trial" handlebars, anything with the phrase "tri" attached to it, ahead
sets, wheels with fewer than 28 spokes, and all brakes with "dual
pivot" action.

Oh, and triple chainrings on a "racing" bike.

Gary said:

Hey, dems fightin' words about the triple chainring. What, do you live
in Florida?

No, but I should have had a triple in Mt. Nebo once- or at least not a
straight block 6-speed :-)

Remember when 42 was the smallest chainring? I still think 39 is to
tourist-y for a racing bike.

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...and so are clipless pedals, any shorts that aren't black, socks that
aren't white or longer than 3 inches above the shoe, clip-on "time
trial" handlebars, anything with the phrase "tri" attached to it, ahead
sets, wheels with fewer than 28 spokes, and all brakes with "dual
pivot" action.

Oh, and triple chainrings on a "racing" bike.

Don't forget helmets...

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:00:32 -0600, "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]>

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...and so are clipless pedals, any shorts that aren't black, socks that
aren't white or longer than 3 inches above the shoe, clip-on "time
trial" handlebars, anything with the phrase "tri" attached to it, ahead
sets, wheels with fewer than 28 spokes, and all brakes with "dual
pivot" action.

Oh, and triple chainrings on a "racing" bike.

Don't forget helmets...

Geez, a five block and a stop watch taped to the handlebars should be
enough for anyone timetrialing. One inch pitch block chains, anyone? I
figure Carl started out on those, maybe with bamboo rims, maybe one in
the back room still...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:00:32 -0600, "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]>

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...and so are clipless pedals, any shorts that aren't black, socks that
aren't white or longer than 3 inches above the shoe, clip-on "time
trial" handlebars, anything with the phrase "tri" attached to it, ahead
sets, wheels with fewer than 28 spokes, and all brakes with "dual
pivot" action.

Oh, and triple chainrings on a "racing" bike.

Don't forget helmets...

Geez, a five block and a stop watch taped to the handlebars should be
enough for anyone timetrialing. One inch pitch block chains, anyone? I
figure Carl started out on those, maybe with bamboo rims, maybe one in
the back room still...

My friend when I was a 13 year old intermediate had antique 1 inch
chain on his Austro-Daimler fixed gear winter bike. And at my team as a
junior, the shop owner had a complete old motorpace track bike, with 1"
chain, and a HUGE chainring.

I've been thinking of custom-milling spacers so that I can put a
5-block on my campy 10 speed hub. It sure is more gnarly looking than
all those stupid 23 tooth granny gears like some MTB fool:-)

bill wrote:

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I've been thinking of custom-milling spacers so that I can put a
5-block on my campy 10 speed hub. It sure is more gnarly looking than
all those stupid 23 tooth granny gears like some MTB fool:-)

That seems like a lot of work. Why not just make every second cog have the
same number of teeth as the one before it? You would then have only five
gears, shifting would be as complicated as when you used friction shifters,
and nobody would think you were a wuss by saving the five cogs worth (meet
George Jetson!) of weight. Alternatively, you could use the 10-speed, but
only use the five smallest cogs. If you go that route, make sure you tell
everyone you ride with what you are doing. You'll have to remind them
every five minutes.

--
Bill Asher

bill said:

I've been thinking of custom-milling spacers so that I can put a
5-block on my campy 10 speed hub. It sure is more gnarly looking than
all those stupid 23 tooth granny gears like some MTB fool:-)

I remember the days when my low gear was 42-21. Coventional wisdom of
the time was that you needed to learn to climb in those gears to climb
well in races. What really happened was that we stayed away from the
steeper climbs during training and then sucked on them during races. As
I got older and wiser, and cassettes became larger, my acceptable low
gear got smaller and smaller. Now when I'm serious about climbing, I
ride a 50/34 in front and 12/28 10sp in back and go anywhere I want. I
run a smaller cassette (12/25) on my MTB because of the triple.

Bret

Bret said:

I
ride a 50/34 in front and 12/28 10sp in back and go anywhere I want. I
run a smaller cassette (12/25) on my MTB because of the triple.

I will show my ignorance of the latest gear (Super Record Brakes,
pedals and down-tube shifters and front derailleur work for a long
time🙂--what crank runs a 34 tooth on a double chainring set-up?

bill said:

Bret said:

I
ride a 50/34 in front and 12/28 10sp in back and go anywhere I want. I
run a smaller cassette (12/25) on my MTB because of the triple.

I will show my ignorance of the latest gear (Super Record Brakes,
pedals and down-tube shifters and front derailleur work for a long
time🙂--what crank runs a 34 tooth on a double chainring set-up?

50/34 is the standard compact crankset configuration and is available
from Campy, FSA, Ritchey and others. Shimano has one in development if
its not already available. I use the FSA with an American Classic
cassette on a Shimano hub and otherwise Campy drivetrain.

I notice you don't mention the Super Record crankset or rear
derailleur. I broke mine too back in 1985.

Bret

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I notice you don't mention the Super Record crankset or rear
derailleur. I broke mine too back in 1985.

__ :-)

bill said:

Bret said:

I
ride a 50/34 in front and 12/28 10sp in back and go anywhere I want. I
run a smaller cassette (12/25) on my MTB because of the triple.

I will show my ignorance of the latest gear (Super Record Brakes,
pedals and down-tube shifters and front derailleur work for a long
time🙂--what crank runs a 34 tooth on a double chainring set-up?

Just about any crankset with a 110mm bolt circle diameter.
Yours is probably 144mm if you have the original cranks, and
the smallest ring it will take is 42 teeth (or the extra-obscure
41t chainring).