Al Trautwig score

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Since we're too stupid to understand cycling, we'll
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First hour: four references to baseball

I think that they picked him because of his authoritative
voice. He does sound good. But personally I prefer
Duffield to Trautwig and that Nascar guy. That's it -
Duffers and Sean.

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Since we're too stupid to understand cycling, we'll
keep score:

First hour: four references to baseball

UPDATE:

Pre-race half-hour: one reference to baseball Stage One half-
hour: no references

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Since we're too stupid to understand cycling, we'll
keep score:

First hour: four references to baseball

UPDATE:

(during pre-rae half-hour)

Prologue: one reference to baseball Stage One: no references

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 03:54:55 GMT, "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]>

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Since we're too stupid to understand cycling, we'll
keep score:

First hour: four references to baseball

I think that they picked him because of his authoritative
voice. He does sound good. But personally I prefer
Duffield to Trautwig and that Nascar guy. That's it -
Duffers and Sean.

Duffield has retired for health reasons. On British
Eurosport this year it's Mike Smith with Kelly and the ever
excellent Kristy Anderson.

Regards! Stephen

I like Al. I'm used to his authoritative, voice of reason
during the NBC Ironman broadcasts. He adds an air of respect
and admiration to the narrative. He appeals to the mass
audiences, when Bob, Paul, Phil, Kirsten, Sam, and Frankie
might leave them unsure of what is happening.

On the other hand, yesterday's Phil Liggett quote of the
day: (about 30 seconds before Lance crossed the line) "THIS
IS A WINNING TIME!"
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Since we're too stupid to understand cycling, we'll keep
score:

First hour: four references to baseball

I think that they picked him because of his authoritative
voice. He does sound good. But personally I prefer
Duffield to Trautwig and that Nascar guy. That's it -
Duffers and Sean.

I generally like Trautwig, especially in comparision to
others who have been in that "set-up" role. One thing that
really bugged me, though, in the one-hour TdF "preview" show
was his (I think it was his, and not Sam Posey's) statement
to the effect that "it took 30 years [after Merckx] to
produce another great champion," Lance, of that caliber.

Hello? Lance has been a great TdF rider, but he's no Bernard
Hinault, even if he wins six, and he's probably no Miguel
Indurain, either, at least until he wins a couple of Giros.
Sheesh. The fawning is just too much to swallow sometimes.

I only makes sence that a guy that smokes two packs of
cigarettes a day should comment on cycling.?+"

Mapei81 said:

I generally like Trautwig, especially in comparision to
others who have been in that "set-up" role. One thing that
really bugged me, though, in the one-hour TdF "preview"
show was his (I think it was his, and not Sam Posey's)
statement to the effect that "it took 30 years [after
Merckx] to produce another great champion," Lance, of that
caliber.

Hello? Lance has been a great TdF rider, but he's no
Bernard Hinault, even if he wins six, and he's probably no
Miguel Indurain, either, at least until he wins a couple
of Giros. Sheesh. The fawning is just too much to swallow
sometimes.

Al's an american. Most american sports commentators see
things with blinders on, which obstruct from view
accomplishments by non-americans. You'd think they'd give
him a pile of Tour history stuff to go through and maybe
tape delay his foot-in-mouth comments.

Evan Evans said:

I only makes sence that a guy that smokes two packs of
cigarettes a day should comment on cycling.?+"

It gives him a clearer, deeper voice. Ever notice how many
great singers smoked like chimneys?

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I generally like Trautwig, especially in comparision to
others who have

been in

Quoted message said:

that "set-up" role. One thing that really bugged me,
though, in the

one-hour

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TdF "preview" show was his (I think it was his, and not
Sam Posey's)

statement

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to the effect that "it took 30 years [after Merckx] to
produce another

great

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champion," Lance, of that caliber.

Hello? Lance has been a great TdF rider, but he's no
Bernard Hinault,

even if

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he wins six, and he's probably no Miguel Indurain, either,
at least until

he

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wins a couple of Giros. Sheesh. The fawning is just too
much to swallow sometimes.

I rate Lance better than Indurain motsly because I don't pay
much attention to any of the results from about '92 on
because EPO became so commonly used that none of the results
reflected who was the best rider. Charly Mottet was
gangbusters good but always was washed out at the end of a
race where people like Mr. 60% (we won't say his name but he
was a Swiss wasn't he?) were supposed to be heros.

They called Miguel the Extraterrestrial. To tell you the
truth I don't know what to believe about him. It would be
nice to know that he was really clean but how could you
ever know?

(Mapei81) said:

Hello? Lance has been a great TdF rider, but he's no
Bernard Hinault, even if he wins six, and he's probably no
Miguel Indurain, either, at least until he wins a couple
of Giros. Sheesh. The fawning is just too much to swallow
sometimes.

Lance doesn't race as much as Indurain, but I do like his
style more. He has, for instance, won a road stage while in
yellow, something Miguel never accomplished in 5 years.

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David N. Welton said:

(Mapei81) said:

Hello? Lance has been a great TdF rider, but he's no
Bernard Hinault, even if he wins six, and he's probably no
Miguel Indurain, either, at least until he wins a couple
of Giros. Sheesh. The fawning is just too much to swallow
sometimes.

Lance doesn't race as much as Indurain, but I do like his
style more. He has, for instance, won a road stage while
in yellow, something Miguel never accomplished in 5 years.

Lance could learn to smile more often:

cyclingnews.comtour04.phpOpen ↗
/stage1/44

From that expression you'd think he was really [censored] at
someone and planning to get even.

Now these guys are photogenic:

cyclingnews.comtour04.phpOpen ↗
4/stage1/9

BTW, how long has that red/white stripe said Discovery
Channel? Since the deal was inked? I don't recall that those
words on the stripe before.

I say bring back the man we loved to hate :

Adrian Karstens, I bet he works cheaper than Al.

Grumpy Graham

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Mapei81 said:

I generally like Trautwig, especially in comparision to
others who have

been in

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that "set-up" role. One thing that really bugged me,
though, in the

one-hour

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TdF "preview" show was his (I think it was his, and not
Sam Posey's)

statement

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to the effect that "it took 30 years [after Merckx] to
produce another

great

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champion," Lance, of that caliber.

Hello? Lance has been a great TdF rider, but he's no
Bernard Hinault,

even if

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he wins six, and he's probably no Miguel Indurain,
either, at least

until he

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wins a couple of Giros. Sheesh. The fawning is just too
much to

swallow

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sometimes.

Al's an american. Most american sports commentators see
things with blinders on, which obstruct from view
accomplishments by non-americans. You'd think they'd give
him a pile of Tour history stuff to go through and maybe
tape delay his foot-in-mouth comments.

I haven't been taping the pre-race shows, after I saw it
before the prologue. It was just one big Lanceathon, and I
wasn't impressed with Earwig either. And also, I save a half-
hour of tape. Those things tend to be a waste of space!

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Mapei81 said:

I generally like Trautwig, especially in comparision to
others who have been in that "set-up" role. One thing
that really bugged me, though, in the one-hour TdF
"preview" show was his (I think it was his, and not Sam
Posey's) statement to the effect that "it took 30 years
[after Merckx] to produce another great champion,"
Lance, of that caliber.

Hello? Lance has been a great TdF rider, but he's no
Bernard Hinault, even if he wins six, and he's probably
no Miguel Indurain, either, at least until he wins a
couple of Giros. Sheesh. The fawning is just too much to
swallow sometimes.

Al's an american. Most american sports commentators see
things with blinders on, which obstruct from view
accomplishments by non-americans. You'd think they'd give
him a pile of Tour history stuff to go through and maybe
tape delay his foot-in-mouth comments.

I saw Al at the finish of the Fleche Wallone race. He was
filming a short "fluff" sound bite. He and his crew were
standing right in the middle of the narrow walk way, while
Al taped the same piece about five times, before getting the
results that he was looking for. He kept flubbing his lines,
so he had to keep on doing re-takes.

I just hate all of the hystrionics that these fluff pieces
give. The heck with the masses....why do we always have to
cow-tow to the lowest common denomonitor and dumb down the
race? You know if Lance wasn't in the TDF, not a whole lot
of "masses" would be watching the broadcast.

And finally, what is this crud, showing the race mileage in
miles on the TV screen while the race is going on? I know
that it also shows up as kilometers, at other times, but
talk about dumbing it down for people who don't know, or
can't figure out the metric system! I noticed that Phil is
also doing the conversion while talikng about the race.

cipo_chick said:

And finally, what is this crud, showing the race mileage
in miles on the TV screen while the race is going on? I
know that it also shows up as kilometers, at other times,
but talk about dumbing it down for people who don't know,
or can't figure out the metric system! I noticed that Phil
is also doing the conversion while talikng about the race.

When they reach the last kilometer, does Phil say: "And
there's the red kite! Sixth-tenths of a mile to go!"?

Robert Chung said:

When they reach the last kilometer, does Phil say: "And
there's the red kite! Sixth-tenths of a mile to go!"?

Five furlongs to go.

On 07/04/2004 10:51 PM, in article
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I just hate all of the hystrionics that these fluff pieces
give. The heck with the masses....why do we always have to
cow-tow to the lowest common denomonitor and dumb down the
race? You know if Lance wasn't in the TDF, not a whole lot
of "masses" would be watching the broadcast.

That last statement is exactly the point. Lance gets people
to watch. Fluff pieces explain the race to the "lowest
common denominator" so they can understand what's going on.
If all goes well, then when Lance retires after 2005, OLN's
viewership for the Tour does not drop dramatically because
the masses get it and decide to keep coming back.

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And finally, what is this crud, showing the race mileage
in miles on the TV screen while the race is going on? I
know that it also shows up as kilometers, at other times,
but talk about dumbing it down for people who don't know,
or can't figure out the metric system! I noticed that Phil
is also doing the conversion while talikng about the race.

The Brits still do things in miles instead of kilometers
as well ...

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Since we're too stupid to understand cycling, we'll keep
score:

First hour: four references to baseball

I think that they picked him because of his authoritative
voice. He does sound good. But personally I prefer
Duffield to Trautwig and that Nascar guy. That's it -
Duffers and Sean.

He sounds just like John Tesh.