Akto pitching cockup... help?

Hi,
I think that end on into the wind means your feet should face the wind
whilst you are lying down.
In this manner your tent bell end is in the lee of the wind, and you are
offering the smallest surface area towards it.

The other way, if i understand you correclty you are in effect broadside on
to the wind, and taking the brunt of the wind on the side of your tent.

Well thats my theory any way.

John

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On Friday I went straight up to the Lakes after my London trip, and
last night I camped at Sprinkling Tarn. When I got there it was Very,
Very Windy, and wet as well. Much of the ground was boggy, so it took
me some time to find a pitch. I found a good one in the end, though.

When it came to pitching the tent I found myself confused. Well,
nothing new there...🙂 The conditions were by far the windiest in
which I've yet used the Akto, but I knew that I should pitch it "end
on" to the wind. I assumed that that meant that one of the zip-up
vents should be facing into the wind, which meant that the pole should
face the wind horizontally. However, when I put up the tent that way
it looked wrong, because of the way the wind was blowing the tent in
front of the pole. I therefore took it down and re-pitched it with the
pole in line with the wind (I hope you see what I mean...), hoping
that the wind would blow right over the top.

Somewhere in the night, I realised that the tent seemed to have
partially collapsed. The inner was almost resting on my face, and each
time there was a big gust of wind (which happened approximately every
4.65 seconds) it hit me in the eye. When I got up this morning I saw
that one of the guylines at one end had given way. It was my fault for
not fixing it properly in place.

I now have 2 questions.

1. What is meant by pitching the Akto "end on" to the wind? Should a
vent face the wind, or the door/side opposite the door?

2. When I turned the tent round after the first pitch I could tell
that the groundsheet wasn't square/oblong, but I couldn't make it
right. In still conditions I'd have taken all the pegs out and turned
it over to see whether something had snagged, but it was so windy last
night that I had to get it pegged out or lose it. That meant that when
I extended the guys at the "non-square" end it didn't sit right. I
took photo's but it wasn't my digital camera, so I've not had them
developed yet. I think that must have contributed to the problem that
happened later in the night.

Can anyone think of what might have happened to prevent me from
pegging the tent out "square"? I wondered whether it might have
something to do with the blak tapes, but I'm not a person to whom
tent-lore comes automatically - even though I find it facinating - so
I'm not sure what went wrong.

Any help much appreciated 🙂

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

Pitch length ways into the wind, i.e., with the pole at right angles to the
wind. The poles will bend with the wind (sometimes quite dramatically) but
the Hilleberg can take it. All 'tunnel' tents are better this way although
I find that tightening the tension straps where the pole fits into the outer
tern makes a big difference. Don't worry about the poles bending - they are
designed for that.

--
Andy Howell
Birmingham, UK

John Myers said:

Hi,
I think that end on into the wind means your feet should face the wind
whilst you are lying down.
In this manner your tent bell end is in the lee of the wind, and you are
offering the smallest surface area towards it.

Ok, thanks. That's how I had it before I turned it round. I'll know
for next time!

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 18:47:59 GMT, Andy Howell

andy.howellNOSPAM@ecotrendDOTorgDOTuk said:

Pitch length ways into the wind, i.e., with the pole at right angles to the
wind. The poles will bend with the wind (sometimes quite dramatically) but
the Hilleberg can take it. All 'tunnel' tents are better this way although
I find that tightening the tension straps where the pole fits into the outer
tern makes a big difference. Don't worry about the poles bending - they are
designed for that.

Thank you - I had it right first time, then. It'll be interesting to
see how it goes next time, when I'll do it right.

Another thing is that I leaned out of the tent in the middle of the
night to close the ventilation holes at both ends. I was afraid that
the wind rushing in might do some damage. Should I have left them
alone, d'you think? It was an unusually windy night: one of the
windiest I've ever experienced in the Lakes, anyway.

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

i pitched a spacepacker once with the side that my head was at into a strong
wind. that side was flattened and bent the pole. the guide line on that side
also had no effect. the tent doors on single poled tents also have a lot to
do
with the strength of the tent in a strong wind so when i unzipped them the
tent collapsed even
more. i was left thinking that pitching the tent so that one of the sides
with the entrances on onto the wind would help to stop in the tent
collapsing
because it's easier for the pole to pull to oneside rather than
if the wind blows in line with it which i think will cause the pole to
flatten downwards in a strong wind but it will help to keep the tent in
shape and the pole should take the wind better.
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Hi,
I think that end on into the wind means your feet should face the wind
whilst you are lying down.
In this manner your tent bell end is in the lee of the wind, and you are
offering the smallest surface area towards it.

The other way, if I understand you correclty you are in effect broadside
on
to the wind, and taking the brunt of the wind on the side of your tent.

Well thats my theory any way.

John

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"Peewiglet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On Friday I went straight up to the Lakes after my London trip, and
last night I camped at Sprinkling Tarn. When I got there it was Very,
Very Windy, and wet as well. Much of the ground was boggy, so it took
me some time to find a pitch. I found a good one in the end, though.

When it came to pitching the tent I found myself confused. Well,
nothing new there...🙂 The conditions were by far the windiest in
which I've yet used the Akto, but I knew that I should pitch it "end
on" to the wind. I assumed that that meant that one of the zip-up
vents should be facing into the wind, which meant that the pole should
face the wind horizontally. However, when I put up the tent that way
it looked wrong, because of the way the wind was blowing the tent in
front of the pole. I therefore took it down and re-pitched it with the
pole in line with the wind (I hope you see what I mean...), hoping
that the wind would blow right over the top.

Somewhere in the night, I realised that the tent seemed to have
partially collapsed. The inner was almost resting on my face, and each
time there was a big gust of wind (which happened approximately every
4.65 seconds) it hit me in the eye. When I got up this morning I saw
that one of the guylines at one end had given way. It was my fault for
not fixing it properly in place.

I now have 2 questions.

1. What is meant by pitching the Akto "end on" to the wind? Should a
vent face the wind, or the door/side opposite the door?

2. When I turned the tent round after the first pitch I could tell
that the groundsheet wasn't square/oblong, but I couldn't make it
right. In still conditions I'd have taken all the pegs out and turned
it over to see whether something had snagged, but it was so windy last
night that I had to get it pegged out or lose it. That meant that when
I extended the guys at the "non-square" end it didn't sit right. I
took photo's but it wasn't my digital camera, so I've not had them
developed yet. I think that must have contributed to the problem that
happened later in the night.

Can anyone think of what might have happened to prevent me from
pegging the tent out "square"? I wondered whether it might have
something to do with the blak tapes, but I'm not a person to whom
tent-lore comes automatically - even though I find it facinating - so
I'm not sure what went wrong.

Any help much appreciated 🙂

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

Scott said:

i pitched a spacepacker once with the side that my head was at into a strong
wind. that side was flattened and bent the pole.

IME the Spacepacker is definitely better off with the wind blowing along
the pole, but though both are transverse single hoops the Akto has quite
a different profile for catching the wind, and it's probably more
aerodynamic across the pole (like a tunnel tent).
The Akto is more a one-pole tunnel design, where the Sapcepacker has a
much rounder pitching plan. The roof slope away from the pole is quite
a bit shallower on an Akto too, so the end guying will probably
contribute more to keeping the roof off your face/feet in a blow at
right angles to the pole.

Pete.
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Peewiglet said:

Another thing is that I leaned out of the tent in the middle of the
night to close the ventilation holes at both ends. I was afraid that
the wind rushing in might do some damage. Should I have left them
alone, d'you think? It was an unusually windy night: one of the
windiest I've ever experienced in the Lakes, anyway.

You have to judge this at that moment! If it is very windy you won't need
much in the way of open ventilation! Remember, these vents are there to deal
with condensation which is not usually a problem in these conditions!

--
Andy Howell
Birmingham, UK

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 05:40:37 GMT, Andy Howell

andy.howellNOSPAM@ecotrendDOTorgDOTuk said:

Quoted message said:

Another thing is that I leaned out of the tent in the middle of the
night to close the ventilation holes at both ends. I was afraid that
the wind rushing in might do some damage. Should I have left them
alone, d'you think? It was an unusually windy night: one of the
windiest I've ever experienced in the Lakes, anyway.

You have to judge this at that moment! If it is very windy you won't need
much in the way of open ventilation! Remember, these vents are there to deal
with condensation which is not usually a problem in these conditions!

Maybe I was right to close then, then. Thanks 🙂

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet