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  1. Air Free Tires, Inc. 104 Smith St. New Smyrna, FL. 32168
    (386) 478-1861   fax 309 218-2459   Intl. 386 478-1861

    This company is a SCAM and a RIPOFF. I was stupid enough to order tires
    from them on their website:

    1. They charged my credit card the same day I ordered
    2. They double billed my card for the same one order
    3. They NEVER shipped the merchandise to me

    I have called their "customer service" phone number at least 30 times,
    and have NEVER spoken to a human being, only an answering machine.
    After 30 voicemails and 20 e-mails, I have NO response from them.
    The Florida Better Business Bureau has an "unsatisfactory" rating for
    them due to failure to respond to complaints.

    Next time, I will check with the BBB *before* I throw away my money.

  2. tph said:

    Air Free Tires, Inc. 104 Smith St. New Smyrna, FL. 32168
    (386) 478-1861 fax 309 218-2459 Intl. 386 478-1861

    This company is a SCAM and a RIPOFF. I was stupid enough to order tires
    from them on their website:

    1. They charged my credit card the same day I ordered
    2. They double billed my card for the same one order
    3. They NEVER shipped the merchandise to me

    I have called their "customer service" phone number at least 30 times,
    and have NEVER spoken to a human being, only an answering machine.
    After 30 voicemails and 20 e-mails, I have NO response from them.
    The Florida Better Business Bureau has an "unsatisfactory" rating for
    them due to failure to respond to complaints.

    Next time, I will check with the BBB *before* I throw away my money.

    Oddly enough, my old copy of Richard's Bicycle Book warns against scams
    involving airfree tyres. They're total [censored] anyway - Mr Dunlop got it
    right all those years ago.

  3. "tph" wrote: This company is a SCAM and a RIPOFF. (clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    In cases like this you should be able to get the credit card company to
    reverse the charges.

    Thanks for the "heads up."

  4. "tph" wrote: This company is a SCAM and a RIPOFF. (clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    In cases like this you should be able to get the credit card company to
    reverse the charges.

    Thanks for the "heads up."

  5. Zog The Undeniable said:
    tph said:

    Air Free Tires, Inc. 104 Smith St. New Smyrna, FL. 32168 (386) 478-1861
    fax 309 218-2459 Intl. 386 478-1861
    This company is a SCAM and a RIPOFF. I was stupid enough to order tires
    from them on their website:
    1. They charged my credit card the same day I ordered
    2. They double billed my card for the same one order
    3. They NEVER shipped the merchandise to me
    I have called their "customer service" phone number at least 30 times,
    and have NEVER spoken to a human being, only an answering machine.
    After 30 voicemails and 20 e-mails, I have NO response from them.
    The Florida Better Business Bureau has an "unsatisfactory" rating for
    them due to failure to respond to complaints.
    Next time, I will check with the BBB *before* I throw away my money.

    Oddly enough, my old copy of Richard's Bicycle Book warns against scams
    involving airfree tyres. They're total [censored] anyway - Mr Dunlop got it
    right all those years ago.

    Apparently these ones are also rubber-free. The emperor has no clothes.

    --
    Benjamin Lewis

    I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of
    oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate
    commerce. -- J. Edgar Hoover

  6. Benjamin Lewis said:
    Zog The Undeniable said:
    tph said:

    Air Free Tires, Inc. 104 Smith St. New Smyrna, FL. 32168 (386) 478-1861
    fax 309 218-2459 Intl. 386 478-1861
    This company is a SCAM and a RIPOFF. I was stupid enough to order tires
    from them on their website:
    1. They charged my credit card the same day I ordered
    2. They double billed my card for the same one order
    3. They NEVER shipped the merchandise to me
    I have called their "customer service" phone number at least 30 times,
    and have NEVER spoken to a human being, only an answering machine.
    After 30 voicemails and 20 e-mails, I have NO response from them.
    The Florida Better Business Bureau has an "unsatisfactory" rating for
    them due to failure to respond to complaints.
    Next time, I will check with the BBB *before* I throw away my money.

    Oddly enough, my old copy of Richard's Bicycle Book warns against scams
    involving airfree tyres. They're total [censored] anyway - Mr Dunlop got it
    right all those years ago.

    Apparently these ones are also rubber-free.

    Keyboard!

  7. Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:49:58 -0700, Benjamin Lewis <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Zog The Undeniable said:


    Oddly enough, my old copy of Richard's Bicycle Book warns against scams
    involving airfree tyres. They're total [censored] anyway - Mr Dunlop got it
    right all those years ago.

    Apparently these ones are also rubber-free.

    Keyboard!

    I don't get it...

    --
    Benjamin Lewis

    I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of
    oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate
    commerce. -- J. Edgar Hoover

  8. Benjamin Lewis said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:49:58 -0700, Benjamin Lewis <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Zog The Undeniable wrote:
    >
    > Oddly enough, my old copy of Richard's Bicycle Book warns against scams
    > involving airfree tyres. They're total [censored] anyway - Mr Dunlop got it
    > right all those years ago.

    Apparently these ones are also rubber-free.

    Keyboard!

    I don't get it...

    Sorry, it's a convention is some newsgroups that if something really makes you
    LOL, you mention that the purveyor of the comic quip has caused you to ruin your
    keyboard by spraying it with coffee.

    Of course, you usually haven't actually soaked the keyboard - it's just a sort
    of compliment.

  9. On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:43:43 -0400, tph <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    Air Free Tires, Inc. 104 Smith St. New Smyrna, FL. 32168
    (386) 478-1861   fax 309 218-2459   Intl. 386 478-1861

    Florida. It figures. (I used to live in Florida. Commercially, much
    of it makes Mos Eisley look like the Vatican. Boca Raton, in
    particular, is recognized as the spam capitol of the planet. The most
    common business model in Florida is "grab the cash and run."😉

    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
    Some gardening required to reply via email.
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  10. (Muttley) said:
    Benjamin Lewis said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:49:58 -0700, Benjamin Lewis <[email hidden]>
    wrote:
    > Zog The Undeniable wrote:
    >>
    >> Oddly enough, my old copy of Richard's Bicycle Book warns against scams
    >> involving airfree tyres. They're total [censored] anyway - Mr Dunlop got it
    >> right all those years ago.
    >
    > Apparently these ones are also rubber-free.

    Keyboard!

    I don't get it...

    Sorry, it's a convention is some newsgroups that if something really makes you
    LOL, you mention that the purveyor of the comic quip has caused you to ruin your
    keyboard by spraying it with coffee.

    Of course, you usually haven't actually soaked the keyboard - it's just a sort
    of compliment.

    rec.bicycles.tech doesn't seem to have an acknowledged convention for
    that; in news.admin.net-abuse.email, the [C&C] tag warning of humorous
    content is known (C&C = "Cats and Coffee Warning, put both in a safe
    place before reading"😉, and in alt.callahans the acts of spraying the
    monitor with coffee (or beverage of your choice) is called
    "kittening", for reasons that would take too long to explain.
    Analogous customs exist in other newsgroups.
    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
    Some gardening required to reply via email.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  11. Quoted message said:
    (Muttley) said:

    On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:13:20 -0700, Benjamin Lewis <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    >
    > Keyboard!

    I don't get it...

    Sorry, it's a convention is some newsgroups that if something really
    makes you LOL, you mention that the purveyor of the comic quip has
    caused you to ruin your keyboard by spraying it with coffee.

    Of course, you usually haven't actually soaked the keyboard - it's just
    a sort of compliment.

    rec.bicycles.tech doesn't seem to have an acknowledged convention for
    that;

    That because, aside from the occasional zinger from Jobst, we're a fairly
    humourless bunch over here.

    However, I note that this is also cross-posted to .misc and .soc.

    --
    Benjamin Lewis

    I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of
    oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate
    commerce. -- J. Edgar Hoover

  12. Werehatrack said:

    Florida. It figures. (I used to live in Florida. Commercially, much
    of it makes Mos Eisley look like the Vatican. Boca Raton, in
    particular, is recognized as the spam capitol of the planet. The most
    common business model in Florida is "grab the cash and run."😉

    "Boca Raton" sounds better in Spanish, but I prefer to refer to it by
    the English translation: "Rat Mouth, Florida."

    Sheldon "Translator" Brown
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    | of any sort. --E. J. Smith, Captain, RMS Titanic |
    +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
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    Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
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    Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
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  13. I bought 4 tires from them and I like them. I ordered a replacement due
    to theft on Feb 8, have yet to see anything from them. I do not know
    what his problem is. Dispute the credit card charges, you have 60 days
    for that. Then order from http://www.nuteck.com . This is the actual
    manufacturer in Colorado. I lose a little speed from the solid tires,
    but it sure beats having a lot of flats.

    tph said:


    Air Free Tires, Inc. 104 Smith St. New Smyrna, FL. 32168
    (386) 478-1861 fax 309 218-2459 Intl. 386 478-1861

    This company is a SCAM and a RIPOFF. I was stupid enough to order tires
    from them on their website:

    1. They charged my credit card the same day I ordered
    2. They double billed my card for the same one order
    3. They NEVER shipped the merchandise to me

    I have called their "customer service" phone number at least 30 times,
    and have NEVER spoken to a human being, only an answering machine.
    After 30 voicemails and 20 e-mails, I have NO response from them.
    The Florida Better Business Bureau has an "unsatisfactory" rating for
    them due to failure to respond to complaints.

    Next time, I will check with the BBB *before* I throw away my money.

  14. On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:34:06 -0700, Benjamin Lewis <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    (Muttley) said:

    Sorry, it's a convention is some newsgroups that if something really
    makes you LOL, you mention that the purveyor of the comic quip has
    caused you to ruin your keyboard by spraying it with coffee.

    Of course, you usually haven't actually soaked the keyboard - it's just
    a sort of compliment.

    rec.bicycles.tech doesn't seem to have an acknowledged convention for
    that;

    That because, aside from the occasional zinger from Jobst, we're a fairly
    humourless bunch over here.

    "Zingers from Jobst"... Yeah. Right. Good thing I wasn't scritching
    the cat when I read *that* line.

    And Barraged On Chestnut, or whatever his name is, cannot be credibly
    accused of being humorless.

    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
    Some gardening required to reply via email.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  15. Sheldon Brown said:
    Werehatrack said:

    Florida. It figures. (I used to live in Florida. Commercially, much
    of it makes Mos Eisley look like the Vatican. Boca Raton, in
    particular, is recognized as the spam capitol of the planet. The most
    common business model in Florida is "grab the cash and run."😉

    "Boca Raton" sounds better in Spanish, but I prefer to refer to it by
    the English translation: "Rat Mouth, Florida."

    Idiomatically, in Spanish, "raton" is "mouse", and rat is "rata",
    but...

    "Boca Raton" been misrepresented as "rat's mouth" in so many places
    for so long that it's like "there's a sucker born every minute"; even
    though PT Barnum never said it, the attribution now belongs to him by
    popular acclamation...and even though Boca Raton means "mouth mouse"
    in a correct Spanish-English translation, in the US it is "rat's
    mouth" in the mind of the public.

    I've been there. IMNSHO, it has earned the appellation.
    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
    Some gardening required to reply via email.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  16. Mike Schwab said:

    ... Then order from http://www.nuteck.com . This is the actual
    manufacturer in Colorado. I lose a little speed from the solid tires,
    but it sure beats having a lot of flats.

    You forgot a hyphen. The URL is http://www.nu-teck.com

    --
    =========================================================================
    Bob Parnass, AJ9S GNU/Linux User http://parnass.com

  17. Mike Schwab said:

    I bought 4 tires from them and I like them. I ordered a replacement
    due to theft on Feb 8, have yet to see anything from them. I do not
    know what his problem is. Dispute the credit card charges, you have
    60 days for that. Then order from http://www.nuteck.com . This is
    the actual manufacturer in Colorado. I lose a little speed from the
    solid tires, but it sure beats having a lot of flats.

    I can't visualize what sort of bicycling you do with solid tires, but
    exceeding 15mph while riding over even a 1/2" step in the pavement
    will damage rims, there being insufficient compression in a
    non-pneumatic tire to absorb such shock. Just the same, there is a
    use for these tires but it is not a reasonable solution to flat tires
    considering how many thousand miles most riders cover between flats.
    I can't imagine riding 1000 miles on "Airfree Tires".

    Jobst Brandt
    [email hidden]

  18. Mike Schwab said:

    I bought 4 tires from them and I like them. I ordered a replacement due
    to theft on Feb 8, have yet to see anything from them. I do not know
    what his problem is. Dispute the credit card charges, you have 60 days
    for that. Then order from http://www.nuteck.com . This is the actual
    manufacturer in Colorado. I lose a little speed from the solid tires,
    but it sure beats having a lot of flats.

    Actually, should be www.nu-teck.com

  19. Quoted message said:

    ...
    I can't visualize what sort of bicycling you do with solid tires, but
    exceeding 15mph while riding over even a 1/2" step in the pavement
    will damage rims, there being insufficient compression in a
    non-pneumatic tire to absorb such shock. Just the same, there is a
    use for these tires...

    They would be my tires of choice for use on wheelbarrows.

    --
    Tom Sherman

  20. Tom Sherman said:
    Quoted message said:

    ...
    I can't visualize what sort of bicycling you do with solid tires, but
    exceeding 15mph while riding over even a 1/2" step in the pavement
    will damage rims, there being insufficient compression in a
    non-pneumatic tire to absorb such shock. Just the same, there is a
    use for these tires...

    They would be my tires of choice for use on wheelbarrows.

    There's a hotdog vendor here in Houston who uses them on his cart.
    Oh, and the guy at the lbs said the small ones make a dandy support
    ring to help flatten out the spare tire cover on his hatchback. I
    suppose that a big one might make a decent protective foot under a
    spool table, but I haven't seen one of those in a long time. (As a
    table, that is.)
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