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Here's a pic of a Torker LX airseat. They have them for KH, but I
couldn't find a pic, sorry.

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Speaking of air seats .... I bought a KH air seat several weeks ago. I
put it on my 29er and have been riding it.

My question.....how much air should it have?
A little air...the tube almost flat?
Moderate amount of air ... tube about half full?
A lot of air ... the tube so full it is almost pushing the seat cover
off the frame?

I have tried different amounts and my thoughts are:
A little air ... why bother?
Moderate air ... seat still gets pretty hard after about 30 minutes
Lots of air ... sitting up there on that 29er feels real unstable
especially when turning.

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i had an old viscount seat and i took off the original covering. i then
took my 12" bike tube and did the dog-bone shape. use duct-tape to keep
it from the 70's waterbed feeling. i then had a costom seat cover made
out of vinyl for about 75 bucks... dont use it on a muni or trials cause
it can rip eaisily if dropped, but for distance its fine. use a draw
string on the bottom to seal it up like the fussion cover by KH. for the
amount of air, i have mine pretty full; about 3/4 full. with the
duct-tape holding it in place and the high pressure, its still pretty
stable and i can ride for hours before i start feeling it:p

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I find the KH airseat took some getting used to at first, but a lot more
comfortable overall than the original. I keep it with a medium amount of
air inside so that the seat surface is very plush. I cut a .5 inch
section of foam from the top of the original foam to help with cushion
feeling and also help to shape the seat top correctly and fill it out
properly. Looks/feels fine except the back you can sometimes see the
pokey corner of the tube even thru the UDC air pillow, doesn't bother me
though. Maybe when you cut the foam you can make a little extra tongue
come down the side to hold the shape of the edge better. I'll upload
pics as soon as my cam is done charging...

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there's some really really good instructions for converting a Miyata
into an air saddle on unicycling.org, 'HERE'
(http://unicycling.org/airseat/). tells you absolutely everything you
need to know. those instructions can be used for a Torker LX also, and
with a little bit of work, it can be used for a KH too. but you
generally need a KH Fusion seat cover to do it with a KH Saddle.

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I'm a big fan of my 'JC Air Seat Conversion'
(http://gallery.unicyclist.com/Airseat). It makes for a very good air
seat for muni and with some modifications it makes for a very good Coker
seat. I haven't done the same with a KH seat but it should be similar
with a suitable high volume seat cover.

My muni seat uses the Miyata foam. My Coker seat uses some old foam
from an old Schwinn seat. The Schwinn foam is more contoured (it's
shaped very similarly to a Viscount) and makes for a more comfortable
Coker seat. Coker seats are up higher so you sit differently on a Coker
seat than a muni seat. The Miyata foam works plenty well enough for
muni.

My style of air seat works very well for muni. It's not overly floppy.
It absorbs bumps and acts like a bit of suspension. Yet it still keeps
its shape and is firm enough to still give you good control of the
muni.

I'm going to experiment and try some KH foam in my Coker seat. Might
work better than the old Schwinn foam. A better Coker seat is the Holy
Grail.

One problem with my design is that there is no commercial single layer
air pillow similar to the one I sewed up. You could try a 'UDC dog bone
style air pillow' (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=258)
and sew it in half to make it a single layer air pillow. Should work
but I haven't tried it.

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Butty said:

*i was wondering what an air seat is like and if it is any good*

I wondered the same thing... until I did it. It's like sitting on a
cloud, where as the KH seat is like sitting on a brick. Your crotch
will sing heavenly praises to your new seat when you go for your first
ride.

I shaved my KH foam down to about 1/2 it's orig. thickness (use a bread
knife), put a 12" inner tube between the foam and the base, then wrap it
with a nice cover. Or some duct tape. Whatever you fancy.

Start with just a _little_ air, then work up from there slowly. Don't
go overboard with the air. Too little air and your tube is useless.
Too much air and either you'll rip your cover or you'll be bounced off
the seat with the first bump you hit. Experiment. Let us know how it
goes!

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[image: http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~rl224/khairseat.jpg]

There is an added bonus of the front curve being much more mellow after
the conversion, creating much more room up front for the special bits.
Incidentally, I don't experience numbness up front anymore as a result
of pressure...

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cheers that helps a lot, i should be getting 1 soon

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Here are some pictures I took when I made a KH airseat a while ago
http://gallery.unicyclist.com/spencer

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Here's the inside of my home-made costom airsaddle:

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opps... forgot to put the pic in... here it is:

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Here it is with the costom cover:

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I drilled a hole in the back for the valve so I can adjust the pressure
in my saddle, and I also put on an extender so I could get to it. Here
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my old saddle was a viscount and wasnt very comfortable, so I fixed it
up and it is soooo comfy 😄 hope yours is too!

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that saddle looks pretty cool. 😎

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thanks, it took a few weeks of no riding though cause I first had to
wait for my costom cover to be made for like 75$ (now im broke), and
then my innertube sprung a leak cause the guy who made the cover cut it
🙁 so i couldnt ride for about a month, but i can tell ya, it was sooo
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i have now just made my air seat and it is really cumfy and it doesnt
look to bad either have a look 'here'
(http://gallery.unicyclist.com/free4all?page=7) . its called air seat
1/2/3

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that is pretty good butty, how did alicks turn out?

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