Ageism

"W. D. Grey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>, Craven
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Although they're not into "proper" gear, Hawkshead /do/ have older
models
in their catalogue.

Depends on what IS proper gear for hillwalking in the UK IMHO. Most is
utterly over the top and you pay through the nose for it :-(

Keep up man! We're talking about ageism - models in catalogues , NOT
gear.

Keep up! I certainly do ;-) Think about it, people are in outdoor pursuit
businesses to sell gear AND make money, gear advertised nowadays are not
necessarilly needed to hillwalk in the UK, maybe on an Everest expedition
though:-0

Craven

Great attitude and realistic perspective on the catalogs. Thanks. I
always get a chuckle when I see a youngster all outfitted for a
Himalayan trek on a short day hike. Gotta test the gear, right?

So terrific that you keep on going. Keep it up, you are a great role
model in that respect... maybe you can get someone to photograph you
for one of their ads for :proper: gear. Smile.

Michael Hobby said:

I have just picked up a catalogue for Field & Trek - all shiny new products
and glossy pictures.

However, as one who is approaching 60 but still keen on walking etc, I am
very aware that all the pics that feature people wearing clothing etc.
depict youngsters.

All catalogues - Cotswold etc. - are the same. Why are older people NOT
represented. We have just as much spending power as the kids.

Oh, for goodness sake, stop being so pompous and get over yourself.

What earthly difference does it make _who_ models what?

IMHO, in the grand scheme of things there are things to be
legitimately (sic.) concerned about, models in advertising material
doesn't make it onto my list.

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:18:14 +0100
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SteveO wrote :
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What earthly difference does it make _who_ models what?

I look forward to your appearance in the lingerie section of one of the
home shopping catalogues ;-)

SteveO said:

IMHO, in the grand scheme of things there are things to be
legitimately (sic.) concerned about

Such as whether your fleece has the manufacturer's logo on it, for
instance...

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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:15:10 +0100, Bootlaces <[email hidden]>

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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:18:14 +0100
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SteveO wrote :
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What earthly difference does it make _who_ models what?

I look forward to your appearance in the lingerie section of one of the
home shopping catalogues ;-)

Give me enough for a coupla pints o' beeyor and I'll be happy to
oblige!

....I could set up web cam and charge extortionate amounts of money!
Hey, that's a great idea!!! I'll be minted!!!

Cheers for the idea 'laces.

Hey, here's a thought as an aside, as a safety tip if you like...
Bootlaces, do you carry a penknife so that you can set yourself free
if your knots become too tight to untie?

Simon Caldwell said:

SteveO said:

IMHO, in the grand scheme of things there are things to be
legitimately (sic.) concerned about

Such as whether your fleece has the manufacturer's logo on it, for
instance...

exactomundo, preciselisimus!!

Dominic Sexton said:

You could equally say it they were sizeist due to the lack of larger
framed models or perhaps even racist too as I have rarely seen other
than white models in the catalogues.

Or sexist, because although they do have women it always seems to me
that they have blokes using all the most interesting kit.

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Dominic Sexton said:

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All catalogues - Cotswold etc. - are the same. Why are older people NOT
represented. We have just as much spending power as the kids.

Why does it matter?

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Simon Caldwell said:

SteveO said:

IMHO, in the grand scheme of things there are things to be
legitimately (sic.) concerned about

Such as whether your fleece has the manufacturer's logo on it, for
instance...

Or whether someone else does/doesn't like poles, or does/doesn't like
walking with music, or does/doesn't take a mobile out, or does/doesn't
use a GPS, or does/doesn't etc etc....

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Whoever he is - he is my hero. When I grow up I want to look like him
(I'm 55 now) He has fingers like pork sausages.

He has to be a top climber...

Pedro

My mother in law is a Pole...

;-)

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My mother in law is a Pole...

;-)

She can probably sue, then!

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Peewiglet <[email hidden]> wrote

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Dominic Sexton said:

You could equally say it they were sizeist due to the lack of larger
framed models or perhaps even racist too as I have rarely seen other
than white models in the catalogues.

Or sexist, because although they do have women it always seems to me
that they have blokes using all the most interesting kit.

.......In the eye of the beholder. ;-)
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Gordon Harris

"Michael Hobby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have just picked up a catalogue for Field & Trek - all shiny new products
and glossy pictures.

However, as one who is approaching 60 but still keen on walking etc, I am
very aware that all the pics that feature people wearing clothing etc.
depict youngsters.

If I'm about to spend £200 on a new waterproof jacket I don't give a toss
who is wearing it in the catalogue or how pretty/tough the background
scenery is in the picture. I'm much more interested in how the item
performs, will it fit me, does it weigh much, how small will it pack down
etc?
If someone is so shallow to buy purely on how good the model looks in it
then they must be bloody stupid and not worth caring about in the first
place.

Nick

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"Michael Hobby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have just picked up a catalogue for Field & Trek - all shiny new products
and glossy pictures.

However, as one who is approaching 60 but still keen on walking etc, I am
very aware that all the pics that feature people wearing clothing etc.
depict youngsters.

If I'm about to spend £200 on a new waterproof jacket I don't give a toss
who is wearing it in the catalogue or how pretty/tough the background
scenery is in the picture. I'm much more interested in how the item
performs, will it fit me, does it weigh much, how small will it pack down
etc?
If someone is so shallow to buy purely on how good the model looks in it
then they must be bloody stupid and not worth caring about in the first
place.

Not necessarily. If I see an outfit - any outfit - on a gorgeous model
with a fabulous figure then I'll see that outfit on that model. To
translate it into how it might look on /me/ I'd sooner see it on someone
who looks a bit more normal.

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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:42:42 +0100, Peewiglet <[email hidden]>

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Or whether someone else does/doesn't like poles, or does/doesn't like
walking with music, or does/doesn't take a mobile out, or does/doesn't
use a GPS, or does/doesn't etc etc....

You forgot to mention digital cameras or photoshop.

S.

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Simon Caldwell said:

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:42:42 +0100, Peewiglet <[email hidden]>

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Or whether someone else does/doesn't like poles, or does/doesn't like
walking with music, or does/doesn't take a mobile out, or does/doesn't
use a GPS, or does/doesn't etc etc....

You forgot to mention digital cameras or photoshop.

Or goretex liners in boots :-)
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It is not something I would argue about, but I agree, I prefer "normal"
people in catalogues.

BUT wouldnt we be putting all those beautiful people out of work?

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Great attitude and realistic perspective on the catalogs. Thanks. I
always get a chuckle when I see a youngster all outfitted for a
Himalayan trek on a short day hike. Gotta test the gear, right?

So terrific that you keep on going. Keep it up, you are a great role
model in that respect... maybe you can get someone to photograph you
for one of their ads for :proper: gear. Smile.

Don't need to, been photographed on most Continents, hillwalking & climbing.
And not in gear that's not required for the said places:-(((

Over the top nowadays gear no matter what Clinch says; (sigh)

0-)))))

Craven