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What if the AFLD suit results in him being found innocent?

Joseph

Then things get interesting.

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What if the AFLD suit results in him being found innocent?

Joseph

Is that even a possibility? I'd wondered about that when reading the initial
report; I'd assumed it was simply a procedural issue, not a trial of facts,
but it appears that might not be the case. I'm surprised the French would
subject themselves to that sort of thing, instead of finding a way to accept
the results of the UCI, even though no longer accepting their authority in
other matters.

It's also possible, perhaps even likely, that they might be willing to
negotiate something with Floyd that simply keeps him out of the TdF for the
same amount of time as his UCI suspension, and nothing more. A bargaining
ploy to get him to at least tacitly admit guilt.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

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What if the AFLD suit results in him being found innocent?

Joseph

Ummm...seeing as how the AFLD runs "the lab formerly known as
LNDD"...how likely do you think THAT is??

Tom_A said:

On Oct 21, 12:10 pm, "[email hidden]"

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What if the AFLD suit results in him being found innocent?

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Joseph

Ummm...seeing as how the AFLD runs "the lab formerly known as
LNDD"...how likely do you think THAT is??

About as likely as justice in Houston before the expose? --D-y

Tom_A said:

On Oct 21, 12:10 pm, "[email hidden]"

Quoted message said:

What if the AFLD suit results in him being found innocent?

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Joseph

Ummm...seeing as how the AFLD runs "the lab formerly known as
LNDD"...how likely do you think THAT is??

I have no idea. The thing that got me thinking was the mention that
AFLD was going to contact Floyd's lawyers to persue the matter. Persue
it with whom? I suppose to persue they have to present their "case" to
somebody, and that somebody would also get to hear from Floyd's side
(otherwise why would Floyd's lawyers need to be contacted at all?) and
just maybe they will be reasonable people and come to the same
conclusion all reasonable people do about this.

Joseph

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Quoted message said:

What if the AFLD suit results in him being found innocent?

Joseph

Is that even a possibility? I'd wondered about that when reading the
initial report; I'd assumed it was simply a procedural issue, not a
trial of facts, but it appears that might not be the case. I'm
surprised the French would subject themselves to that sort of thing,
instead of finding a way to accept the results of the UCI, even
though no longer accepting their authority in other matters.

It's also possible, perhaps even likely, that they might be willing to
negotiate something with Floyd that simply keeps him out of the TdF
for the same amount of time as his UCI suspension, and nothing more.
A bargaining ploy to get him to at least tacitly admit guilt.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

In a criminal matter, no one is ever, ever, ever found innocent.
--
Sandy

Ce n'est pas que j'ai peur de la mort.
Je veux seulement ne pas être là
quand elle arrivera.

In article <[email hidden]>,

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Tom_A said:

On Oct 21, 12:10 pm, "[email hidden]"

Quoted message said:

What if the AFLD suit results in him being found innocent?

Quoted message said:

Joseph

Ummm...seeing as how the AFLD runs "the lab formerly known as
LNDD"...how likely do you think THAT is??

I have no idea. The thing that got me thinking was the mention that
AFLD was going to contact Floyd's lawyers to persue the matter. Persue
it with whom? I suppose to persue they have to present their "case" to
somebody, and that somebody would also get to hear from Floyd's side
(otherwise why would Floyd's lawyers need to be contacted at all?) and
just maybe they will be reasonable people and come to the same
conclusion all reasonable people do about this.

Kangaroo Court.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_court

_ Booker C. Bense

Sandy said:

Dans le message denews:[email hidden],
Mike Jacoubowsky <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

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What if the AFLD suit results in him being found innocent?

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Joseph

Quoted message said:

Is that even a possibility? I'd wondered about that when reading the
initial report; I'd assumed it was simply a procedural issue, not a
trial of facts, but it appears that might not be the case. I'm
surprised the French would subject themselves to that sort of thing,
instead of finding a way to accept the results of the UCI, even
though no longer accepting their authority in other matters.

Quoted message said:

It's also possible, perhaps even likely, that they might be willing to
negotiate something with Floyd that simply keeps him out of the TdF
for the same amount of time as his UCI suspension, and nothing more.
A bargaining ploy to get him to at least tacitly admit guilt.

Quoted message said:

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

In a criminal matter, no one is ever, ever, ever found innocent.

Do you think that this will actually make it's way into a real court
of law where (as your tongue in cheek comment suggest) people are
actually found innocent every once in a while?

Joseph

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Sandy said:

Dans le message
denews:[email hidden], Mike
Jacoubowsky <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

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> What if the AFLD suit results in him being found innocent?

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> Joseph

Quoted message said:

Is that even a possibility? I'd wondered about that when reading the
initial report; I'd assumed it was simply a procedural issue, not a
trial of facts, but it appears that might not be the case. I'm
surprised the French would subject themselves to that sort of thing,
instead of finding a way to accept the results of the UCI, even
though no longer accepting their authority in other matters.

Quoted message said:

It's also possible, perhaps even likely, that they might be willing
to negotiate something with Floyd that simply keeps him out of the
TdF for the same amount of time as his UCI suspension, and nothing
more. A bargaining ploy to get him to at least tacitly admit guilt.

Quoted message said:

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

In a criminal matter, no one is ever, ever, ever found innocent.

Do you think that this will actually make it's way into a real court
of law where (as your tongue in cheek comment suggest) people are
actually found innocent every once in a while?

Joseph

The current disposition is preliminary to criminal court proceedings.

Sandy said:

In a criminal matter, no one is ever, ever, ever found innocent.

Rbr's legal council is back. I trust you being away for a while had
nothing to do with Sarkozy's wife wanting greener pastures ?

Sandy said:

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Sandy said:

Dans le message
denews:[email hidden], Mike
Jacoubowsky <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

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>> What if the AFLD suit results in him being found innocent?

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>> Joseph

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> Is that even a possibility? I'd wondered about that when reading the
> initial report; I'd assumed it was simply a procedural issue, not a
> trial of facts, but it appears that might not be the case. I'm
> surprised the French would subject themselves to that sort of thing,
> instead of finding a way to accept the results of the UCI, even
> though no longer accepting their authority in other matters.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> It's also possible, perhaps even likely, that they might be willing
> to negotiate something with Floyd that simply keeps him out of the
> TdF for the same amount of time as his UCI suspension, and nothing
> more. A bargaining ploy to get him to at least tacitly admit guilt.

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> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
>www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

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In a criminal matter, no one is ever, ever, ever found innocent.

Quoted message said:

Do you think that this will actually make it's way into a real court
of law where (as your tongue in cheek comment suggest) people are
actually found innocent every once in a while?

Quoted message said:

Joseph

The current disposition is preliminary to criminal court proceedings.

That sounds very promising indeed. If it's a rehash, but this time in
a real court, that seems like it would be a good thing.

Joseph

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Sandy said:

In a criminal matter, no one is ever, ever, ever found innocent.

Rbr's legal council is back. I trust you being away for a while had
nothing to do with Sarkozy's wife wanting greener pastures ?

Come on !! You know we can't discuss that !

On the other hand, I am still not grotesquely fat enough to comprise an
entire council.
--
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Sandy

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Cela se compense.
[Arthur Schopenhauer]

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On Oct 22, 7:28 pm, "Sandy" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Dans le message
> denews:[email hidden], Mike
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>>> What if the AFLD suit results in him being found innocent?

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>>> Joseph

Quoted message said:

>> Is that even a possibility? I'd wondered about that when reading
>> the initial report; I'd assumed it was simply a procedural issue,
>> not a trial of facts, but it appears that might not be the case.
>> I'm surprised the French would subject themselves to that sort of
>> thing, instead of finding a way to accept the results of the UCI,
>> even though no longer accepting their authority in other matters.

Quoted message said:

>> It's also possible, perhaps even likely, that they might be
>> willing to negotiate something with Floyd that simply keeps him
>> out of the TdF for the same amount of time as his UCI suspension,
>> and nothing more. A bargaining ploy to get him to at least
>> tacitly admit guilt.

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>> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
>> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

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> In a criminal matter, no one is ever, ever, ever found innocent.

Quoted message said:

Do you think that this will actually make it's way into a real court
of law where (as your tongue in cheek comment suggest) people are
actually found innocent every once in a while?

Quoted message said:

Joseph

The current disposition is preliminary to criminal court proceedings.

That sounds very promising indeed. If it's a rehash, but this time in
a real court, that seems like it would be a good thing.

Joseph

Recycled hash ?? Am I missing something newly stricken off the list ?

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