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Johnny Sunset wrote:
> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> > Vee wrote:
> > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > On 14 Nov 2006 08:03:14 -0800, "Vee" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >[email protected] wrote:
> > > > >> On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:52:25 +0000, Tony Sweeney
> > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >Are there any advantages to aero brake levers (with the cable routed
> > > > >> >under the bar tape) over 'old fashioned' levers? Apart from being more
> > > > >> >choice and more easily available currently.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >And any disadvantages? I can think of a couple: -
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >You have to undo or replace bar tape when you want to replace the cable
> > > > >> >outer. You might have to undo the front brake cable from the caliper to
> > > > >> >lift a quill stem out.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If you hit a big bump or pothole and you are on the hoods, the
> > > > >> traditional arrangement may well keep your hands on the hoods, while
> > > > >> the new-fangled types will allow them to come off - and make it more
> > > > >> likely that you will lose control and come off as well.
> > > > >
> > > > >I don't understand. Are you saying that the run of housing on old
> > > > >fashioned hoods keeps your hands in place?
> > > >
> > > > Yes.
> > > >
> > > > > Are you serious?
> > > >
> > > > Yes.
> > > >
> > > > > Is there
> > > > >some other difference between aero and non-aero hoods that I'm missing?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Given your questions above, quite possibly.
> > >
> > > Sorry if my rhetorical pothole threw you off. Here's my question,
> > > phrased as literally as possible: how are traditional brake levers
> > > safer than aero levers when the rider hits a bump?
> > >
> >
> > Simple answer: they are not safer.
> >
> > Now, realize that in "jtaylor" you are dealing with an entity that
> > maintains that wearing a simple bicycle helmet makes it *more* likely
> > you will have a brain injury.
> >
> > IOW, you are dealing with a nutball. Good luck.
>
> Readers of rec.bicycles.tech:
>
> Since there is a theoretical possibility that bicycle helmets MIGHT
> increase rotational brain injuries and also the possibility that motor
> vehicle operators MIGHT change their behavior depending on whether or
> not the cyclist(s) in their vicinity are wearing helmets, the
> contention of J. Taylor is at least worth further consideration.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Post Free or Die!
Further consideration? What do you call the tens of thousands of
helmet posts that have smothered this group over the past few years?
Do you want to repeat the past? Kill this group anew? I know you're
just responding to Ozark's dismissive comment, but it's pointless.
Nobody's mind can be changed at present. In fact, it's even pointless
to talk about talking about helmets, since that's been done to death,
too. (Recall the "helmet nazi" posts.) The best we can do is pretend
we don't hear people when they use the h-word. Exactly like I haven't
done here.
-Vee
> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> > Vee wrote:
> > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > On 14 Nov 2006 08:03:14 -0800, "Vee" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >[email protected] wrote:
> > > > >> On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:52:25 +0000, Tony Sweeney
> > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >Are there any advantages to aero brake levers (with the cable routed
> > > > >> >under the bar tape) over 'old fashioned' levers? Apart from being more
> > > > >> >choice and more easily available currently.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >And any disadvantages? I can think of a couple: -
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >You have to undo or replace bar tape when you want to replace the cable
> > > > >> >outer. You might have to undo the front brake cable from the caliper to
> > > > >> >lift a quill stem out.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If you hit a big bump or pothole and you are on the hoods, the
> > > > >> traditional arrangement may well keep your hands on the hoods, while
> > > > >> the new-fangled types will allow them to come off - and make it more
> > > > >> likely that you will lose control and come off as well.
> > > > >
> > > > >I don't understand. Are you saying that the run of housing on old
> > > > >fashioned hoods keeps your hands in place?
> > > >
> > > > Yes.
> > > >
> > > > > Are you serious?
> > > >
> > > > Yes.
> > > >
> > > > > Is there
> > > > >some other difference between aero and non-aero hoods that I'm missing?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Given your questions above, quite possibly.
> > >
> > > Sorry if my rhetorical pothole threw you off. Here's my question,
> > > phrased as literally as possible: how are traditional brake levers
> > > safer than aero levers when the rider hits a bump?
> > >
> >
> > Simple answer: they are not safer.
> >
> > Now, realize that in "jtaylor" you are dealing with an entity that
> > maintains that wearing a simple bicycle helmet makes it *more* likely
> > you will have a brain injury.
> >
> > IOW, you are dealing with a nutball. Good luck.
>
> Readers of rec.bicycles.tech:
>
> Since there is a theoretical possibility that bicycle helmets MIGHT
> increase rotational brain injuries and also the possibility that motor
> vehicle operators MIGHT change their behavior depending on whether or
> not the cyclist(s) in their vicinity are wearing helmets, the
> contention of J. Taylor is at least worth further consideration.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Post Free or Die!
Further consideration? What do you call the tens of thousands of
helmet posts that have smothered this group over the past few years?
Do you want to repeat the past? Kill this group anew? I know you're
just responding to Ozark's dismissive comment, but it's pointless.
Nobody's mind can be changed at present. In fact, it's even pointless
to talk about talking about helmets, since that's been done to death,
too. (Recall the "helmet nazi" posts.) The best we can do is pretend
we don't hear people when they use the h-word. Exactly like I haven't
done here.
-Vee
