Aero Bike Positioning

Quoted message said:

Is there anyone out there that can show me pictures exactly of the
butt to saddle position I need.

I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to saddle
position you need.

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Quoted message said:

I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to saddle
position you need.

Quoted message said:

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Quoted message said:

I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to saddle
position you need.

He would have given you the picture already, but he is trying to
recover from the description of road bike ---> Tribike : upgrade.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Robert Chung said:

I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to saddle
position you need.

I bring you a favourite of M. Vardi:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg

Sorry, no new material.

--
E. Dronkert

Ewoud Dronkert said:

Robert Chung said:

I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to
saddle position you need.

I bring you a favourite of M. Vardi:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg

Someone should track her down and see what she looks like now.

On Mar 14, 4:31 pm, Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Robert Chung said:

I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to saddle
position you need.

I bring you a favourite of M. Vardi:http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg

Okay, I need a little help here. I read one and a half languages and
French ain't one of them. Can someone verify my translation of part
of that ad for me?
Here's what it says, with my guess as to what it means in parentheses:

couleurs au choix
("chocolate ass" - certainly looks sweet enough to me)
hauteur
("hot" - no [censored]?)
longueur
("loooong" - referring to the legs no doubt)
inclinasion a la demande
(that's either "reclines on demand" (please, God, let it be so!) or
"inclined to be demanding"😉
prise de cotes comprise
("willing to compromise on the price" or "everything is
included" (either one works for me))

I would suggest that someone take an old saddle, preferably stained,
fake up a COA signed by the lovely lady in that ad, and auction it off
on eBay. Send me 10%. Thanks for any assistance.

R

I bet if Andy Hampsten upgraded his bike like that he'd have lost that
stage in the snow over the Gavia.

Robert Chung said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to
saddle position you need.

Curtis L. Russell said:

He would have given you the picture already, but he is trying to
recover from the description of road bike ---> Tribike : upgrade.

<[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I've ridden a road bike for years and this winter upgraded to a Tri-
Specific bike. Leaning over the bars is natural, although it hurts my
neck after a while and the power I feel after my T2 is really nice.
I'm weaving a bit all over the road, but I'm thinking with practice
that'll straighten out.
My question is, with my hands gripping the aero bars and the shifters
on the bar ends, and my fingers readily moving them up and down. At
what position should my perenium and the two Ischium bones be on the
saddle? What is the proper position? I have a Quintana Roo Tri
saddle that came with the bike, and it seems to be slightly
uncomfortable at times. I also have some bike shorts with a nice gel
chomois that helps.

Is there anyone out there that can show me pictures exactly of the
butt to saddle position I need. Most pics I see of people in the Aero
position are from the side and never up close and of the back, or the
picture is of someone sprinting in the aggressive position.

Any help would be great, thanks.

Ask on rec.sport.triathlon, not here.

-S-

RicodJour said:

On Mar 14, 4:31 pm, Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Robert Chung said:

I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to saddle
position you need.

Quoted message said:

I bring you a favourite of M. Vardi:http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg

Okay, I need a little help here. I read one and a half languages and
French ain't one of them. Can someone verify my translation of part
of that ad for me?
Here's what it says, with my guess as to what it means in parentheses:

couleurs au choix
("chocolate ass" - certainly looks sweet enough to me)
hauteur
("hot" - no [censored]?)
longueur
("loooong" - referring to the legs no doubt)
inclinasion a la demande
(that's either "reclines on demand" (please, God, let it be so!) or
"inclined to be demanding"😉
prise de cotes comprise
("willing to compromise on the price" or "everything is
included" (either one works for me))

I would suggest that someone take an old saddle, preferably stained,
fake up a COA signed by the lovely lady in that ad, and auction it off
on eBay. Send me 10%. Thanks for any assistance.

R

Also "avec raccords" which means you get to negotiate bondage.

-ilan

On Mar 14, 9:31 pm, Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Robert Chung said:

I pretty sure Ewoud can point you to pictures of exactly the butt to saddle
position you need.

I bring you a favourite of M. Vardi:http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg

Sorry, no new material.

--
E. Dronkert

Do you think she gets to pump up her tires without paying 1.50 Euros?

-ilan

ilan said:

Quoted message said:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg

Do you think she gets to pump up her tires without paying 1.50 Euros?

Yes. I'll pump for free.

--
E. Dronkert

On Mar 15, 8:58 am, Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]>

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ilan said:

Quoted message said:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg

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Do you think she gets to pump up her tires without paying 1.50 Euros?

Yes. I'll pump for free.

After leaving a deposit, no doubt.

R

On 15 Mar 2007 06:06:35 -0700, "RicodJour" <[email hidden]>

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On Mar 15, 8:58 am, Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

ilan said:

>http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg

Quoted message said:

Do you think she gets to pump up her tires without paying 1.50 Euros?

Yes. I'll pump for free.

After leaving a deposit, no doubt.

R

No doubt your humanitarianism and generosity will leave some choked
up.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Boys, to the original question please? Unless you'd rather sniggle
over female Glutes.

Curtis L. Russell said:

On 15 Mar 2007 06:06:35 -0700, "RicodJour" <[email hidden]>

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On Mar 15, 8:58 am, Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]>

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On 15 Mar 2007 05:37:44 -0700, ilan wrote:

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>>http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/mm.jpg

Quoted message said:

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> Do you think she gets to pump up her tires without paying 1.50 Euros?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Yes. I'll pump for free.

Quoted message said:

After leaving a deposit, no doubt.

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R

No doubt your humanitarianism and generosity will leave some choked
up.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Quoted message said:

Boys, to the original question please? Unless you'd rather sniggle
over female Glutes.

If we're voting, I'll go with the sniggle - WTF that is.

Asking other people what your position on a bike should be, is like
asking other people if your shoes are too tight. Find a bike shop
that specializes in fitting bikes and pony up a few bucks.

This "WARNING: You are making a big mistake of you think proper bike
fitting can be done online!" from this site:
http://bethelcycle.com/page.cfm?PageID=221

Now stop hijacking your own thread - it's unseemly.

R

Quoted message said:

Boys, to the original question please? Unless you'd rather sniggle
over female Glutes.

OK, never have the seat where you hit your knees on the handlebars -
it hurts when you sprint, or so I've heard. I only sprinted when it
looked like the motor was about to wave me off the course.

BTW, we've never had a thread on the finely developed ability to ride
badly, yet always make the 'wave off' cut. My greatest experience was
the well of pride when I looked back and saw the CJ wave off the guys
just behind me. You do it three or four times in the same crit and you
can actually get cheers. A rider the crowd can identify with...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

RicodJour said:

Quoted message said:

Boys, to the original question please? Unless you'd rather sniggle
over female Glutes.

If we're voting, I'll go with the sniggle - WTF that is.

Asking other people what your position on a bike should be, is like
asking other people if your shoes are too tight. Find a bike shop
that specializes in fitting bikes and pony up a few bucks.

This "WARNING: You are making a big mistake of you think proper bike
fitting can be done online!" from this site:http://bethelcycle.com/page.cfm?PageID=221

Now stop hijacking your own thread - it's unseemly.

R

Had the bike professionally fitted, although it is really hard to find
a bike shop that specializes in Triathlon bike fitting and this guy
was road bike fitting. But in the Aero position, obviously your hip
angle is more acute and after a few hours, the tip of the saddle isn't
exactly in the same place as you would be out of the Aero position if
you know what I mean. Seat angle is 78 degrees, but there's hardly
ever any mention of proper seat placement anywhere. Anybody have any
ideas?

By the way, is it possible to hijack your very own discussion thread?
I had no idea. How rude of me.

Thanks for all the help RicodJour, I'm just trying to learn something
here and would like the respect you were probably handed through your
path through the biking world.

Quoted message said:

RicodJour said:

On Mar 15, 10:08 am, [email hidden] wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Boys, to the original question please? Unless you'd rather sniggle
over female Glutes.

Quoted message said:

If we're voting, I'll go with the sniggle - WTF that is.

Quoted message said:

Asking other people what your position on a bike should be, is like
asking other people if your shoes are too tight. Find a bike shop
that specializes in fitting bikes and pony up a few bucks.

Quoted message said:

This "WARNING: You are making a big mistake of you think proper bike
fitting can be done online!" from this site:http://bethelcycle.com/page.cfm?PageID=221

Quoted message said:

Now stop hijacking your own thread - it's unseemly.

Had the bike professionally fitted, although it is really hard to find
a bike shop that specializes in Triathlon bike fitting and this guy
was road bike fitting. But in the Aero position, obviously your hip
angle is more acute and after a few hours, the tip of the saddle isn't
exactly in the same place as you would be out of the Aero position if
you know what I mean. Seat angle is 78 degrees, but there's hardly
ever any mention of proper seat placement anywhere. Anybody have any
ideas?

If someone was fitting you for a different style of riding than what
you asked for, it wasn't a professional fitting.

You are attempting to isolate one specific element of the fit and that
just doesn't work. There are a lot of factors and they are all inter-
related. For all I know you could be shaped like a fire hydrant with
feet or you could be all arms and legs. If you get the precise
theoretical measurements and angles for that perfect fit, it means
nothing without taking into account your riding style and
measurements. Please don't post your measurements.

Quoted message said:

By the way, is it possible to hijack your very own discussion thread?
I had no idea. How rude of me.

Thanks for all the help RicodJour, I'm just trying to learn something
here and would like the respect you were probably handed through your
path through the biking world.

I've already given you my advice. If you can't, or won't, spend the
time to tinker with your own fit, then you have no choice but to
locate a shop that is familiar with tri fitting. It may involve
effort to get there.

If you're lucky, maybe Henry will weigh in and provide the respect as
I'm fresh out. 😉

R

Dave said:

[censored],

rbr is not the place to look for respect

You can look for it all you want - the trick is to not expect to find
it.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...