Advice on winter shoes.

"Dobbers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Winter is on its way so should I go for thermal neoprene overshoes to
keep my toes warm or a pair of winter shoes? Does anyone use winter
shoes and do they restrict the ankles?

If your feet are the right shape, shimano W101 boots are the business. Get
them slightly large so you can fit into them with 2 pairs of socks.
The ankle bits are just neoprene, so really they're just a pair of shoes
with a cuff.

I used to use neoprene overshoes, but the boots are loads better.

cheers,
clive

Clive George said:

"Dobbers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Winter is on its way so should I go for thermal neoprene overshoes to
keep my toes warm or a pair of winter shoes? Does anyone use winter
shoes and do they restrict the ankles?

If your feet are the right shape, shimano W101 boots are the business. Get
them slightly large so you can fit into them with 2 pairs of socks.
The ankle bits are just neoprene, so really they're just a pair of shoes
with a cuff.

I used to use neoprene overshoes, but the boots are loads better.

I agree although I use the Northwave version.

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Tony

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"Dobbers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Winter is on its way so should I go for thermal neoprene overshoes to
keep my toes warm or a pair of winter shoes?Does anyone use winter
shoes and do they restrict the ankles?

Aldi have over shoes on sale £3.99 a couple of pairs would last the
winter.

http://uk.aldi.com/

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"Dobbers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Winter is on its way so should I go for thermal neoprene overshoes to
keep my toes warm or a pair of winter shoes?Does anyone use winter
shoes and do they restrict the ankles?

Aldi have over shoes on sale £3.99 a couple of pairs would last the
winter.

http://uk.aldi.com/

As much as love Aldi bargains, I'm not sure I'd use their shoes as winter
shoes...

Cheers, helen s

"Dobbers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Winter is on its way so should I go for thermal neoprene overshoes to
keep my toes warm or a pair of winter shoes?Does anyone use winter
shoes and do they restrict the ankles?

As already recommended: Shimano W101's.
While they are more cumbersome than shoes they're a darn sight less
cumbersome than numb tootsies.
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Quoted message said:

Winter is on its way so should I go for thermal neoprene overshoes to
keep my toes warm or a pair of winter shoes?Does anyone use winter
shoes and do they restrict the ankles?

I have a pair of Northwave Fahrenheit boots which are superb. A much
better shape than anything in the Shimano range, as far as my feet are
concerned.

Guy
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Winter is on its way so should I go for thermal neoprene overshoes to
keep my toes warm or a pair of winter shoes?Does anyone use winter
shoes and do they restrict the ankles?

I've just bought myself a new pair of SIDI winter boots to replace my old
SIDI winter boots which have been my favourite cycling footwear for some
time. The new ones are 'Lorica' not leather, and (probably consequently)
aren't such a perfect glovelike fit as the old ones; but they are less
garishly coloured and have absolutely toasty warm lining. But IMHO
there's nothing that contributes more to your winter cycling comfort
than a nice pair of cosy, waterproof winter boots.

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Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Dobbers

(') said:

Winter is on its way so should I go for thermal neoprene overshoes to
keep my toes warm or a pair of winter shoes?Does anyone use winter
shoes and do they restrict the ankles?

I've just bought myself a new pair of SIDI winter boots to replace my old
SIDI winter boots which have been my favourite cycling footwear for some
time. The new ones are 'Lorica' not leather, and (probably consequently)
aren't such a perfect glovelike fit as the old ones; but they are less
garishly coloured and have absolutely toasty warm lining. But IMHO
there's nothing that contributes more to your winter cycling comfort
than a nice pair of cosy, waterproof winter boots.

So, I've always cycled in trainers - generally an old, no good any
more for running, running shoe. My pedals have no clips or anything,
what's the reasoning behind special shoes?

Jim.

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So, I've always cycled in trainers - generally an old, no good any
more for running, running shoe. My pedals have no clips or anything,
what's the reasoning behind special shoes?

Proper cycling shoes have a fairly solid inflexible sole - unlike a trainer.
This makes them more efficient and more comfortable to pedal on - but
possibly worse off the bike.

For somebody who's interested in performance, you can also lose any tread
and any shock absorbing - there's no point, the only contact point is with
the pedal. All the design compromises (ventilation, fabric choice, padding)
made in the shoe can be to make it better for cycling rather than walking -
unlike trainers. (of course a lot of trainers have the design compromise
chosen to look good, but I'm guessing you don't use them :-) ).

If you're happy with plain platform pedals, there's no real reason to use
cycling shoes.

However lots of people like a bit more contact with the bike - originally
provided with clips + straps, nowadays normally by some variety of clipless
pedal. This enables you pedal for more of the pedal circle - most obviously
pulling up, which gives you more power/efficiency.

With clips + straps, you can use trainers, but something with a knobbly sole
is IME a bit [censored] (makes it hard to get in + out). With clipless, obviously
you need a shoe the cleat will mount to, which inevitably means a proper
cycling shoe.

(Clipless pedals are great, but not necessary. All my riding is done in them
though :-) )

cheers,
clive

Clive George said:

"Jim Ley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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So, I've always cycled in trainers - generally an old, no good any
more for running, running shoe. My pedals have no clips or anything,
what's the reasoning behind special shoes?

For somebody who's interested in performance, you can also lose any tread
and any shock absorbing - there's no point, the only contact point is with
the pedal. All the design compromises (ventilation, fabric choice, padding)
made in the shoe can be to make it better for cycling rather than walking -
unlike trainers. (of course a lot of trainers have the design compromise
chosen to look good, but I'm guessing you don't use them :-) ).

No the trainers I cycle in cost over 1/3rd of the cost of the bike,
they're just now useless for the job of running in having done too
many miles to have any tread or cushioning left in them, they also
look so old and broken that no-one's going to mistake them for looking
good.

Thanks for the info!

Cheers,

Jim.

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Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Dobbers

(') said:

Winter is on its way so should I go for thermal neoprene overshoes to
keep my toes warm or a pair of winter shoes?Does anyone use winter
shoes and do they restrict the ankles?

I've just bought myself a new pair of SIDI winter boots to replace my
old SIDI winter boots which have been my favourite cycling footwear for
some time. The new ones are 'Lorica' not leather, and (probably
consequently) aren't such a perfect glovelike fit as the old ones; but
they are less garishly coloured and have absolutely toasty warm lining.
But IMHO there's nothing that contributes more to your winter cycling
comfort than a nice pair of cosy, waterproof winter boots.

So, I've always cycled in trainers - generally an old, no good any
more for running, running shoe. My pedals have no clips or anything,
what's the reasoning behind special shoes?

Primarily, to locate your foot correctly on the pedal, to hold it firmly
there so that it doesn't slip, to increase and smooth your power output
by enabling you to drive through a greater proportion of the pedal
revolution and, perhaps most importantly, to spread the load over the
whole of the sole of your foot rather than concentrate it in one place.

There are other benefits, too, but those are the main ones. Once you've
tried them you'll never go back.

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Simon Brooke said:

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Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Dobbers
([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

> Winter is on its way so should I go for thermal neoprene overshoes to
> keep my toes warm or a pair of winter shoes?Does anyone use winter
> shoes and do they restrict the ankles?

I've just bought myself a new pair of SIDI winter boots to replace my
old SIDI winter boots which have been my favourite cycling footwear for
some time. The new ones are 'Lorica' not leather, and (probably
consequently) aren't such a perfect glovelike fit as the old ones; but
they are less garishly coloured and have absolutely toasty warm lining.
But IMHO there's nothing that contributes more to your winter cycling
comfort than a nice pair of cosy, waterproof winter boots.

So, I've always cycled in trainers - generally an old, no good any
more for running, running shoe. My pedals have no clips or anything,
what's the reasoning behind special shoes?

Primarily, to locate your foot correctly on the pedal, to hold it firmly
there so that it doesn't slip, to increase and smooth your power output
by enabling you to drive through a greater proportion of the pedal
revolution and, perhaps most importantly, to spread the load over the
whole of the sole of your foot rather than concentrate it in one place.

There are other benefits, too, but those are the main ones. Once you've
tried them you'll never go back.

Thanks for all the tips folks.Much appreciated.