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  1. I have a question for all you who are knowledgeable on unicycle
    durability issues. I'm 6'3" and weigh 220 lbs and currently own a 20"
    no-name unicycle....the thing has no markings on it whatsoever, except
    for the tire which is marked DURO and little plastic cap on the crank
    that says SHUN. I bought it from a local bike shop at the end of last
    summer for about $65 not knowing hardly anything about unicycles. All I
    knew is that my little sister got one and was getting good at it, which
    made me think "Hey, I can do this too!"

    Since the weather has gotten nice I've been getting back on and getting
    a lot better. I'm thinking I'll be wanting to learn to do some jumps
    soon. I can already ride off a small curb. I am worried about how much
    force my unicycle can take, however. I figure I should get a new
    unicycle with a bigger tire, but I can't spend much more than
    $100...hopefully less.

    I see a 24" Torker CX unicycle on Ebay that looks pretty good:

    http://tinyurl.com/7ze3u

    There's also one made by Sun that is similarly priced...

    Anyone have any advice for a big man on a budget that wants to have
    something nice to ride and hop around on? Thanks!

    Justin

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  2. (warning - long and possible rambling post which may or may not answer
    your question)

    HistoricalGoof said:

    I have a question for all you who are knowledgeable on unicycle
    durability issues. I'm 6'3" and weigh 220 lbs and currently own a 20"
    no-name unicycle....

    One option is to ride it until it breaks, _then_ get a better one. That's
    what I did with my learner unicycle. One day the spindle just sheared off
    - I don't think I was anywhere near 220 pounds, either at the time.

    Hopping really does put a lot of force on your pedals - more than you'd
    ever imagine. DM did lots of research with some electronic pedals which
    would record the force on them. He demonstrated at the 4th British
    Unicycle Convention, and some of the graphs were astounding.

    Anyway - one way to help prevent problems is if you're hopping static (ie.
    not rolling) then you can move your feet onto the whole crank instead of
    just the pedals. This reduces the forces dramatically.

    You will always bend or break your learner cycle (if you're trying hard
    enough!) so why not take this opportunity to learn lots of skill on the
    old one before 'graduating' to your desired cycle.

    I got my second unicycle (DM Ringmaster Pro) in about 1996 and rode it
    HARD for about 4 years, then on and off until the present day. Apart from
    2 broken spokes (during kick-up mounts) I haven't had a problem with it. I
    think once you're more accomplished, the likelyhood of bending/breaking
    you cycle reduces a lot. Unless you're doing 3-foot drops, of course!

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone have any advice for a big man on a budget that wants to have
    something nice to ride and hop around on? Thanks!

    Unfortunately, I can't comment on modern unicycles - I don't have the up
    to date experience to suggest good manufacturers or models. Certainly
    splined hubs are something to look out for (in a good way) if you want
    strength for hopping.

    As for weight - my rule of thumb is that if you're over 16 stone (224
    pounds) you will break unicycles. There's no real justification to that
    rule. But having only recently got down under that weight, I'm now back on
    and enjoying it - hoping the exercise will help with further weight loss.

    Keep it up, and good luck!

    Stu
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  3. HistoricalGoof said:

    *I have a question for all you who are knowledgeable on unicycle
    durability issues. I'm 6'3" and weigh 220 lbs and currently own a 20"
    no-name unicycle....the thing has no markings on it whatsoever, except
    for the tire which is marked DURO and little plastic cap on the crank
    that says SHUN. I bought it from a local bike shop at the end of
    last summer for about $65 not knowing hardly anything about unicycles.
    All I knew is that my little sister got one and was getting good at
    it, which made me think "Hey, I can do this too!"

    Since the weather has gotten nice I've been getting back on and
    getting a lot better. I'm thinking I'll be wanting to learn to do
    some jumps soon. I can already ride off a small curb. I am worried
    about how much force my unicycle can take, however. I figure I should
    get a new unicycle with a bigger tire, but I can't spend much more
    than $100...hopefully less.

    I see a 24" Torker CX unicycle on Ebay that looks pretty good:

    http://tinyurl.com/7ze3u

    There's also one made by Sun that is similarly priced...

    Anyone have any advice for a big man on a budget that wants to have
    something nice to ride and hop around on? Thanks!

    Justin *

    The Torker CX probably isn't much better than what you have; I wouldn't
    bother going for that one. The Torker LX ($99 at unicycle.com) has a
    better seat and is a bit more rugged; if you put some extra tension into
    the spokes, it should serve you reasonably well.

    But I would definitely stick with your current unicycle until it breaks;
    I still have the unicycle I learned on, and while the seat base is
    cracked, it still works fine; four people have learned to ride on it
    now.

    By the time your current unicycle breaks, you'll know better what you
    want to do with unicycling, and then you'll be able to make a better
    decision about what to upgrade to.

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  4. Here is a photo of the axle and crank of a 20" Torker CX after my 190
    pounds made a three stair hop down. It wasn't my unicycle either.

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  5. I also broke the first unicycle I rode on, then replaced the hub with a
    Suzue hub, and that's still intact. After that I managed to bend the rim
    to the extent that a portion of it was at a 90 degree angle to the rest
    of it, and replaced the rim. I still use it occiasionally when going out
    for touring, as it has a slick, and my 20" trial bike has this big
    massive tire. Mainly it just sits there while I learn some new tricks
    though 😉

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  6. Thanks for the reply Stu! I'll heed your advice and ride mine till it
    breaks, although do you think that a 24" tire would make me a much
    happier unicyclist being 6'3"? Maybe I could just get a longer seat
    post? What do you think about that?

    Justin

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  7. You definitely should get a long enough seat post that your leg can be
    almost fully extended at the bottom of your pedal stroke. A 20"
    unicycle is best for performance and gym skills; if you're riding on
    your own, outside, a 24" will be more versatile.

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  8. A 24" wheel is considered to be the best compromise for speed, strength,
    portability, and manueverability. A 24" wheel is comfortable for someone
    from five feet to seven feet tall to ride.

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    -Greg Harper

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  9. Thanks for the tips everyone! So, if I decide that a 24" unicycle is
    what I want, but need to spend $100 or less is that Torker a wise
    investment?

    Justin

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  10. HistoricalGoof said:

    *So, if I decide that a 24" unicycle is what I want, but need to spend
    $100 or less is that Torker a wise investment?
    *

    It is wise to invest in your happiness.

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    -Greg Harper

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  11. HistoricalGoof said:

    *Thanks for the tips everyone! So, if I decide that a 24" unicycle is
    what I want, but need to spend $100 or less is that Torker a wise
    investment?

    Justin *

    As I noted above, the Torker LX is $99 at unicycle.com, and is a
    significantly better unicycle than the CX.

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  12. The LX would probably be a good investment, the CX would not. I rode my
    CX for almost a year before trashing it completely, but I didn't do any
    trials-type stuff. It has a terribly uncomfortable saddle, which makes
    rides of more than about a mile miserable, even after you develop
    callouses. The rim is fairly weak, and for freestyle stuff the LX has a
    better frame. (wider fork)

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  13. This is the torker LX on ebay. I used this seller to get the same
    unicycle. It came in an unopened box, labeled with Torkers
    identification. It seemed to have been sent to a place called auction
    solutions, than directly over to my house. The total came out to be
    $105. The free stand is a little cheap, I just lean against a wall. I
    have dropped/fell off this thing numorous times. The pedals are a
    little worn down, and so are the handles on the seat. But that does not
    affect the unicycle.

    When you assemble, read the directions. I wore down part of my treads
    when I put the pedals in the wrong cranks. It seemed to be right, but
    then I realized halfway through. It still works.

    If you do go with this auction, pay and then email the buyer
    immediately, he will ship it out for you the next day.

    http://tinyurl.com/affma

    e39m5

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  14. tholub said:

    You definitely should get a long enough seat post that your leg can be
    almost fully extended at the bottom of your pedal stroke. A 20"
    unicycle is best for performance and gym skills; if you're riding on
    your own, outside, a 24" will be more versatile.

    Yeah... what he said!

    I'm biased towards having a 20" for freestyle plus a 26" for distance. A
    24" is a good compromise.

    I don't do that coker thing. 🙂

    Stu
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  15. I think the 24" torker LX on ebay would be your best bet.

    I did the same thing harper did to mine,going off a 3 1/2 foot drop(I
    guess you wont be doing those though)

    The LX is a great step up from the CX,youll like it much better.

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    "You do not make the unicycle-the unicycle makes you."

    ~Y.C. tv

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  16. Today I made some great improvements...I've been working at it a lot
    lately. I can free-mount about 75% of the time now, I hopped around for
    the first time without holding onto anything and rode away, also did a
    rolling hop and went up a long hill that's pretty steep. I also made a
    $20 bet with my friend that I will be able to hop down the steps of
    these grandstands at this baseball field by the end of the
    summer...haha, might be getting ahead of myself.

    I nearly splurged and bought that Torker LX when I got home....I decided
    to sleep on it. Not sure what to do....I might just ride this 20" into
    the ground. I want to be doing some big-time hopping soon!

    Justin

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  17. Good for you.Keep practicing.

    If you really want to do hopping,and not worry about breaking it,save up
    for the Torker DX.You can find them on ebay for $175 total.
    They're splined,and will hold up to 4-5 foot drops.But,it might be a
    little excessive for you yet.

    just think about it awhile.

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