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  1. Original post
    Ffbsensei
    Archived post
    #1

    Hello all,

    I have two bikes, a 1985 Specialized Allez (Suntour Superbe
    Pro - friction, not index shifting) and a 1995 Specialized
    Stumpjumpber (Deore LX). I'm just getting back into biking
    after many many years...and I find that my 12 -speed Allez
    is now a 6 speed, and my 21-speed Stumpjumper is now a 2
    speed because the derailleurs need adjusting. I've typically
    taken the bikes in for a tune-up, but I just got laid off
    and don't want to spend the $150 to tune up both bikes.

    Can someone explain to me what I need to do to adjust the
    front and rear derailleurs? Thanks in advance for any
    assitance you can provide!

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  2. William Holiday
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    #2

    On 10 May 2004 19:13:22 -0700, [email hidden] (FFBSensei) wrote:

    <Hello all, < <I have two bikes, a 1985 Specialized Allez
    (Suntour Superbe Pro - <friction, not index shifting) and a
    1995 Specialized Stumpjumpber <(Deore LX). I'm just getting
    back into biking after many many <years...and I find that my
    12 -speed Allez is now a 6 speed, and my <21-speed
    Stumpjumper is now a 2 speed because the derailleurs need
    <adjusting. I've typically taken the bikes in for a tune-up,
    but I <just got laid off and don't want to spend the $150 to
    tune up both <bikes. < <Can someone explain to me what I
    need to do to adjust the front and <rear derailleurs? Thanks
    in advance for any assitance you can <provide!

    This ought to do the trick: sheldonbrown.comderailer
    adjustment.html

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  3. daveornee
    Archived post
    #3
    Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by William Holiday
    On 10 May 2004 19:13:22 -0700, [email hidden] (FFBSensei) wrote:

    <Hello all, < <I have two bikes, a 1985 Specialized Allez
    (Suntour Superbe Pro - <friction, not index shifting) and a
    1995 Specialized Stumpjumpber <(Deore LX). I'm just getting
    back into biking after many many <years...and I find that my
    12 -speed Allez is now a 6 speed, and my <21-speed
    Stumpjumper is now a 2 speed because the derailleurs need
    <adjusting. I've typically taken the bikes in for a tune-up,
    but I <just got laid off and don't want to spend the $150 to
    tune up both <bikes. < <Can someone explain to me what I
    need to do to adjust the front and <rear derailleurs? Thanks
    in advance for any assitance you can <provide!

    This ought to do the trick: sheldonbrown.comderailer
    adjustment.html


    or put it on one line so it can be clicked as a link:
    http://sheldonbrown.com/derailer-adjustment.html

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  4. carlfogel
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    #4
    daveornee said:
    William Holiday said:

    On 10 May 2004 19:13:22 -0700, [email hidden]
    (FFBSensei) wrote: <Hello all, < <I have two bikes, a
    1985 Specialized Allez (Suntour Superbe Pro -
    <friction, not index shifting) and a 1995 Specialized
    Stumpjumpber <(Deore LX). I'm just getting back into
    biking after many many <years...and I find that my 12
    -speed Allez is now a 6 speed, and my <21-speed
    Stumpjumper is now a 2 speed because the derailleurs
    need <adjusting. I've typically taken the bikes in for
    a tune-up, but I <just got laid off and don't want to
    spend the $150 to tune up both <bikes. < <Can someone
    explain to me what I need to do to adjust the front and
    <rear derailleurs? Thanks in advance for any assitance
    you can <provide! This ought to do the trick: sheldonbrown.comderailer
    sheldonbrown.comderailer adjustment.html

    or put it on one line so it can be clicked as a link: sheldonbrown.comderailer
    adjustment.html

    Dear Dave,

    Sorry, but your effort was no better on some newsreaders,
    wrapping and breaking off the tail end just like
    William's effort.

    sheldonbrown.comderailer adjustment.html

    Now I'll see if mine is any better.

    Carl Fogel

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  5. daveornee
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    #5

    <SNIP>

    Dear Dave,

    Sorry, but your effort was no better on some newsreaders,
    wrapping and breaking off the tail end just like
    William's effort.

    sheldonbrown.comderailer adjustment.html

    Now I'll see if mine is any better.

    Carl Fogel [/B][/QUOTE]

    Carl,
    Sorry I don't know about the formats for all the readers, but I tried to improve; and my posting worked on my reader.
    Yours did too.
    What should I have done to prevent the wrap on those other readers?
    I seee some buttons on my reader, that I usually ignore: one for http:// .... Maybe I should use it and not be "ignorant".

    By the way, I am still waiting delivery of my special vise.sheldonbrown.comderailer adjustment.html

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  6. Sheldon Brown
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    #6
    daveornee said:

    <SNIP>

    Dear Dave,

    Sorry, but your effort was no better on some newsreaders,
    wrapping and breaking off the tail end just like
    William's effort.

    sheldonbrown.comderailer adjustment.htmlhttp://sheldonbrown.com/derailer-
    adjustment.html

    Now I'll see if mine is any better.

    Carl Fogel

    Carl, Sorry I don't know about the formats for all the
    readers, but I tried to improve; and my posting worked on
    my reader. Yours did too. What should I have done to
    prevent the wrap on those other readers? I seee some
    buttons on my reader, that I usually ignore: one for
    http:// ... Maybe I should use it and not be "ignorant".

    Most newer software will spot "http://" and automatically
    turn it into a link, if you just type the URL with no
    special formatting.

    Not sure if it works in News, especially if it gets
    wrapped and interrupted by ">"s, but if you enclose a URL
    between angle brackets, it won't be wrecked by line breaks
    in email thus:

    <http://www.sheldonbrown.com/derailer-adjustment.html>

    It's also helpful to put URLs at the beginning of a line,
    this reduces the chance of them getting broken by word wrap.

    I've been creating forwarding links to simplify popular URLs
    on my site, so for most links you will no longer need the
    ".html" part.

    Also, on my site, and on many other sites, the "www." part
    of the URL is not needed, though it may appear as a result
    of following old links.

    Thus, you can get that page from:

    <http://sheldonbrown.com/derailer-adjustment>

    My latest bike pages are:

    sheldonbrown.orgpicchio
    sheldonbrown.orgthorn
    sheldonbrown.orgquickbeam

    Sheldon "URLy To Bed, URLy To Rise..." Brown +----------------------------------------
    +
    | Friends don't send friends vcf files. |
    +----------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery,
    West Newton, Massachusetts Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-
    1041 harriscyclery.comharriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped
    Worldwide captainbike.comcaptainbike.com sheldonbrown.comsheldonbrown.com

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  7. Mark
    Archived post
    #7

    Hi Sensei, The Link that William has provided you is a great
    resource for bikes. I recommend you save it to a favs
    folder, and study up/read the articles. Maintainence on a
    bike is not all that difficult, and you can do it, and save
    yourself some cash.

    Having the right tools will be of help, and most stuff on
    these bikes will typically be metric, so if you have some
    metric Wrenches, and Allen Wrenches, decent Phillips
    screwdriver, this will be a plus. Very possible that all
    that is needed is a Phillips screwdriver, and a good light
    lubricating oil available just about anywhere.

    Provided you don't have any damaged, or worn out-rusted out
    derailleur Cables, and housings, it will be a simple matter
    of lubrication, and adjustment.

    It help if you can some how support the bike such as would
    be in a bike shop, with the bike on a Mechanic's stand. If
    you can't figure out an inexpensive way to do this, have
    someone hold the bike up, with the rear wheel off the
    ground, so you can rotate the pedals, and watch the
    drivetrain go through its operation, while you sit there
    alongside, and examine what exactly is going on.. Go though-
    adjust one derailleur first, and then the other.

    Sheldon's read should be quite helpful in helping you, and
    should there be other issues that you find wrong, or don't
    understand, the great folks in this groups will hgelp you
    get it ironed out. Mark

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  8. carlfogel
    Archived post
    #8
    daveornee said:

    <SNIP>

    Dear Dave,

    Sorry, but your effort was no better on some newsreaders,
    wrapping and breaking off the tail end just like
    William's effort.

    sheldonbrown.comderailer adjustment.htmlhttp://sheldonbrown.com/derailer-
    adjustment.html

    Now I'll see if mine is any better.

    Carl Fogel

    Carl, Sorry I don't know about the formats for all the
    readers, but I tried to improve; and my posting worked on
    my reader. Yours did too. What should I have done to
    prevent the wrap on those other readers? I seee some
    buttons on my reader, that I usually ignore: one for
    http:// ... Maybe I should use it and not be "ignorant".

    By the way, I am still waiting delivery of my special vise.http://sheldonbrown.com/derailer-
    adjustment.htmlhttp://sheldonbrown.com/derailer-
    adjustment.html

    Dear Dave,

    As far as I can see, all that you can do is put a link on a
    line by itself with a blank line above and below it and hope
    that it's short enough not to wrap by itself:

    sheldonbrown.comderailer adjustment.html

    (A single line and a single address.)

    Curiously, when your newsreader or editor copied my effort
    above, the same odd thing happened--in some newsreaders, the
    link shows up broken at "derailer-" and continues on the
    next line and is then re-copied without even an intervening
    space on the rest of the line:

    sheldonbrown.comderailer

    (partial single line broken at hyphen)

    adjustment.htmlhttp://sheldonbrown.com/derailer-
    adjustment.html

    (rest of link followed by copy of entire link, all on
    single line)

    If I didn't have a deep and abiding faith in all computer
    programs, I'd suspect that there's a bug in some editor
    or newsreader and the way that it handles links
    containing hyphens.

    Carl Fo- gelCarlFo-gel

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  9. carlfogel
    Archived post
    #9
    daveornee said:

    <SNIP>

    Dear Dave,

    Sorry, but your effort was no better on some newsreaders,
    wrapping and breaking off the tail end just like
    William's effort.

    sheldonbrown.comderailer adjustment.htmlhttp://sheldonbrown.com/derailer-
    adjustment.html

    Now I'll see if mine is any better.

    Carl Fogel

    Carl, Sorry I don't know about the formats for all the
    readers, but I tried to improve; and my posting worked on
    my reader. Yours did too. What should I have done to
    prevent the wrap on those other readers? I seee some
    buttons on my reader, that I usually ignore: one for
    http:// ... Maybe I should use it and not be "ignorant".

    By the way, I am still waiting delivery of my special vise.http://sheldonbrown.com/derailer-
    adjustment.htmlhttp://sheldonbrown.com/derailer-
    adjustment.html

    Dear Dave,

    Aha! I grovelled back through this thread and may have found
    what caused the original problem.

    When William replied to the original post, his editor or
    newsreader "quoted" each line of the original not with the
    tradiitional greater-than sign but with the reverse, a less-
    than sign, which in HTML code means hey, a command or at
    least something weird is about to start.

    An example follows where it will do the least harm.

    Carl Fogel

    Quoted message said:

    This is normal "quoting" of the previous post for two lines
    beginning with greater-than marks.

    <This is the mistakenly reversed and unspeakable <lesser-
    than mark that began several lines of text <and probably
    choked a few editors and newsreaders <after the second post
    in this thread--they're looking <hopefully for a closing greater-
    than and may be <gagging when it arrives or is silently
    added around <a URL

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  10. Rick Onanian
    Archived post
    #10
    Quoted message said:

    As far as I can see, all that you can do is put a link on a
    line by itself with a blank line above and below it and
    hope that it's short enough not to wrap by itself:

    Of course, when it gets to be this much of an issue, it's
    well worth accompanying the long, line-wrapped link with a
    short TinyURL.
    --
    Rick Onanian

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  11. Werehatrack
    Archived post
    #11

    On Tue, 11 May 2004 11:02:32 -0400, Sheldon Brown

    may have said:

    I've been creating forwarding links to simplify popular
    URLs on my site, so for most links you will no longer need
    the ".html" part.

    Also, on my site, and on many other sites, the "www." part
    of the URL is not needed, though it may appear as a result
    of following old links.

    Thus, you can get that page from:

    <http://sheldonbrown.com/derailer-adjustment>

    Umm, Sheldon, when you're building links from one page to
    another, could I politely request that you eschew the meta-
    refresh relay pages, or at least put in a manual "If your
    browser doesn't forward you to the next page automatically,
    please click here" tag on them when you use them? Due to the
    penchant for use of the meta-refresh tag by malicious site
    coders to pass a visitor to a URL that's obfuscated, I have
    all of the systems here configured to ignore that tag; this
    mirrors the policy at several large corporate locations in
    this area as well.

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via
    e-mail. Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature. Words
    processed in a facility that contains nuts.

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  12. carlfogel
    Archived post
    #12

    On Tue, 11 May 2004 12:09:31 -0400, Rick Onanian <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As far as I can see, all that you can do is put a link on
    a line by itself with a blank line above and below it and
    hope that it's short enough not to wrap by itself:

    Of course, when it gets to be this much of an issue, it's
    well worth accompanying the long, line-wrapped link with a
    short TinyURL.

    Dear Rick,

    I suspect that this particular problem was a punctuation bug
    that would have shown up on some newsreaders even for
    a.coma.com.

    (That short fake URL doesn't break or duplicate or move to a
    separate line on my most fragile newsreader.)

    The mistaken use of less-than signs for the normal greater-
    than signs may have led some newsreaders to choke on lines
    that looked just fine in the original editor.

    William's original quote with the wrong-way angle-brackets
    shows up just fine, for example, in Google Groups, which is
    relentlessly ASCII and faithful to whatever we monkeys pound
    into the keyboard. The URL appears on a separate line,
    unbroken, unrepeated.

    But in cycling forums, the URL appears highlighted on the
    same line as the introductory text, breaks at the hyphen,
    and the rest appears on the next line, not highlighted and
    lost to any simple double-clicking.

    In news.comcast.giganews.com through Forte, the line breaks
    at the hyphen, is highlighted above and below, and the URL
    is duplicated immediately without any spacing.

    So even a short URL on a separate line would probably have
    looked fine in the original, but goofed up various viewers
    after they tried to pass the greater and less than signs
    through their digestive tracts.

    Eventually, google groups will catch up and show all
    this about as plainly as possible, beginning with the
    original post at:

    groups.google.comgroups
    8&selm=fe5916f0.0405101813.6913bf1b%40posting.google.com

    or

    tinyurl.com2npk7

    Again, I suspect that length was not the problem and that
    everything looked fine to each person who was posting in
    their own newsreader, but that the addition of numerous

    Quoted message said:

    's

    to mark lines from the previous post then stumbled over
    the mistaken

    <'s

    used to mark such lines in the second post of the thread.

    Quoted message said:


    Carl<Fogel

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  13. Werehatrack
    Archived post
    #13

    On Mon, 10 May 2004 22:40:22 -0400, William Holiday

    may have said:

    This ought to do the trick: sheldonbrown.comderailer
    adjustment.html

    I find these to be helpful as well:

    parktool.comhowfix frontderail
    leur.shtml

    parktool.comFAQrindx.shtml

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via
    e-mail. Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature. Words
    processed in a facility that contains nuts.

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  14. Werehatrack
    Archived post
    #14

    On Tue, 11 May 2004 09:31:53 -0600, [email hidden] may have

    Quoted message said:

    If I didn't have a deep and abiding faith in all computer
    programs, I'd suspect that there's a bug in some editor
    or newsreader and the way that it handles links
    containing hyphens.

    It may be an artifact of the Cycle Forums interface; I think
    Dave was posting from there.

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via
    e-mail. Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature. Words
    processed in a facility that contains nuts.

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  15. William Holiday
    Archived post
    #15

    On Tue, 11 May 2004 03:32:13 GMT, daveornee <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    <William Holiday wrote: < > On 10 May 2004 19:13:22 -0700,
    [email hidden] (FFBSensei) wrote: snip < > This ought
    to do the trick: sheldonbrown.comderailer
    sheldonbrown.comderailer < > adjustment.html < <
    <or put it on one line so it can be clicked as a link: sheldonbrown.comderailer
    <adjustment.html

    It's your software or rather your interface... among other
    things ;-)

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  16. William Holiday
    Archived post
    #16

    On Tue, 11 May 2004 10:45:38 -0600, [email hidden] wrote:

    <Again, I suspect that length was not the problem and that
    everything <looked fine to each person who was posting in
    their own newsreader,

    Roshomon!

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  17. carlfogel
    Archived post
    #17
    William Holiday said:

    On Tue, 11 May 2004 10:45:38 -0600,
    [email hidden] wrote:

    <Again, I suspect that length was not the problem and that
    everything <looked fine to each person who was posting in
    their own newsreader,

    Roshomon!

    Dear William,

    MARGE: Come on, Homer, Japan will be fun. You liked
    Rashomon. HOMER: That's not how I remember it!

    Carl Fogel

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