ADHD cure?

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Topic: ADHD cure?

I saw a TV info-commerical today. The fellow is selling a book
entitled:
"Natural Cures: What They Don't Want You To Know" for $30 USD. He has
also established a web site: www.naturalcures.com as a private
subscription arrangement for $10 USD per month.

He stated during the TV info-commerical that there is a "cure" for ADHD.
And because the www.naturalcures.com web site functions on a private
subscription basis, he can use the "cure" word without any hassle from a
government agency. And stated many health problems result from a food
allergy problem or lack of nutritional supplements.

Does that mean the disclaimer for the book is a lie?

[Note: this book does not contain any specific cures for any specific
diseases. It is not a substitute for any medication you may be taking or
medical advice given to you by your doctor. Information contained in the
book is general in nature and speaks more in terms of the regulation present
in the health industry and living an overall healthy lifestyle. Therefore,
please be aware that you may or may not find the information in the book
helpful for your specific situation. We do not verify the quality and
validity of the information contained in these products. Therefore, we do
not guarantee any and all claims, content, opinions, and information
contained in these types of products. This book is to be accepted and used
for informational purposes only. By purchasing the book, you are
acknowledging that you are aware and acknowledge these facts.]

In the case of ADHD, at least, the disclaimer is true. The book does not
describe a natural cure for ADHD. Nor does it refer the reader to a source
for such a cure. In fact it offers no help for ADHD at all. Yes, the book's
author, Kevin Trudeau does state in the infomercial that "Natural remedies
are curing people of cancer, curing people of diabetes, curing people of
depression, curing kids of Attention Deficit Disorder within days", but
neither the infomercial nor his book offer any evidence whatsoever that any
part of that statement is other than pure [censored]. And note that Trudeau
can produce more [censored] than a herd of bulls. He has been prosecuted for
his infomercial lies, selling a raft of bogus products (remember coral
calcium?) and is now prohibited from promoting any products other than
publications.

--Rich

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Rich said:

In the case of ADHD, at least, the disclaimer is true. The book does not
describe a natural cure for ADHD. Nor does it refer the reader to a
source
for such a cure. In fact it offers no help for ADHD at all. Yes, the

book's

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author, Kevin Trudeau does state in the infomercial that "Natural
remedies
are curing people of cancer, curing people of diabetes, curing people of
depression, curing kids of Attention Deficit Disorder within days", but
neither the infomercial nor his book offer any evidence whatsoever that

any

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part of that statement is other than pure [censored]. And note that Trudeau

Yes, Rich, the $30 book is a come-on for the private subscription
area of the www.naturalcures.com web site for an additional $10 per month.

btw, the $30 book contains some anti-cow's milk information.

Which is just as bogus as the rest of Trudeau's [censored].

--Rich

Topic: ADHD cure?

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"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote:
I saw a TV info-commerical today. The fellow is selling a book
entitled:
"Natural Cures: What They Don't Want You To Know" for $30 USD. He has
also established a web site: www.naturalcures.com as a private
subscription arrangement for $10 USD per month.

He stated during the TV info-commerical that there is a "cure" for ADHD.
And because the www.naturalcures.com web site functions on a private
subscription basis, he can use the "cure" word without any hassle from a
government agency. And stated many health problems result from a food
allergy problem or lack of nutritional supplements.

"Rich" <[email hidden]> replied:
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/barefootftc.html

Rich, that is why Kevin T. established a PRIVATE SUBSCRIPTION area
within www.naturalcures.com . FDA and FTC now will NOT have any power
over him.

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Topic: ADHD cure?

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"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote:
I saw a TV info-commerical today. The fellow is selling a book
entitled:
"Natural Cures: What They Don't Want You To Know" for $30 USD. He has
also established a web site: www.naturalcures.com as a private
subscription arrangement for $10 USD per month.

He stated during the TV info-commerical that there is a "cure" for ADHD.
And because the www.naturalcures.com web site functions on a private
subscription basis, he can use the "cure" word without any hassle from a
government agency. And stated many health problems result from a food
allergy problem or lack of nutritional supplements.

"Rich" <[email hidden]> replied:
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/barefootftc.html

Rich, that is why Kevin T. established a PRIVATE SUBSCRIPTION
area
within www.naturalcures.com . FDA and FTC now will NOT have any
power
over him.

They have the power to stop his bilking of millions of dollars from victims
of his fraudulent infomercials. He can say anything he wants in his private
subscription area, but even there he runs the risk of further prosecution if
he uses it to sell worthless health products.

--Rich

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Topic: ADHD cure?

I saw a TV info-commerical today. The fellow is selling a book
entitled:
"Natural Cures: What They Don't Want You To Know" for $30 USD. He has
also established a web site: www.naturalcures.com as a private
subscription arrangement for $10 USD per month.

He stated during the TV info-commerical that there is a "cure" for ADHD.
And because the www.naturalcures.com web site functions on a private
subscription basis, he can use the "cure" word without any hassle from a
government agency. And stated many health problems result from a food
allergy problem or lack of nutritional supplements.

http://www.quack

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

Rich is telling you how it is all a lie, and then he gives you the biggest
lying website of all!!!!!

http://www.chelationtherapyonline.com/articles/p182.htm#quack

Here is the photo of the man behind the web site
http://www.quackwatch.com/index.html. He often attacks various health
products and practices by making false claims about them, as if those claims
came FROM them, and then knocks down these straw men of his own device.
One of the most evil people on the web is a former psychiatrist who lashes
out against just about every possible alternative health product or
practice. It is, in fact, a hall of fame. If you are mentioned in his
pages you can assume you are doing a good job!

LL/Jan

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"Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> In the case of ADHD, at least, the disclaimer is true. The book does

not

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> describe a natural cure for ADHD. Nor does it refer the reader to a
> source
> for such a cure. In fact it offers no help for ADHD at all. Yes, the
book's
> author, Kevin Trudeau does state in the infomercial that "Natural
> remedies
> are curing people of cancer, curing people of diabetes, curing people

of

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> depression, curing kids of Attention Deficit Disorder within days",
> but
> neither the infomercial nor his book offer any evidence whatsoever
> that
any
> part of that statement is other than pure [censored]. And note that

Trudeau

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Yes, Rich, the $30 book is a come-on for the private

subscription

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area of the www.naturalcures.com web site for an additional $10 per

month.

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btw, the $30 book contains some anti-cow's milk information.

Which is just as bogus as the rest of Trudeau's [censored].

--Rich

The bigger the lie the more you can charge for it.

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A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie
was believed.When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to
the
masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its
speaker, a raving lunatic. -Dresden James

"Knowledge never hurt anyone, ignorance does"
Frank T. Schubert

LL/Jan

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Topic: ADHD cure?

I saw a TV info-commerical today. The fellow is selling a book
entitled:
"Natural Cures: What They Don't Want You To Know" for $30 USD. He has
also established a web site: www.naturalcures.com as a private
subscription arrangement for $10 USD per month.

He stated during the TV info-commerical that there is a "cure" for ADHD.
And because the www.naturalcures.com web site functions on a private
subscription basis, he can use the "cure" word without any hassle from a
government agency. And stated many health problems result from a food
allergy problem or lack of nutritional supplements.

In other words, he is a scumbag trying to make money.

Jeff

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"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Topic: ADHD cure?

I saw a TV info-commerical today. The fellow is selling a book
entitled:
"Natural Cures: What They Don't Want You To Know" for $30 USD. He

has

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also established a web site: www.naturalcures.com as a private
subscription arrangement for $10 USD per month.

He stated during the TV info-commerical that there is a "cure" for

ADHD.

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And because the www.naturalcures.com web site functions on a private
subscription basis, he can use the "cure" word without any hassle from

a

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government agency. And stated many health problems result from a

food

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allergy problem or lack of nutritional supplements.

Does that mean the disclaimer for the book is a lie?

[Note: this book does not contain any specific cures for any specific
diseases. It is not a substitute for any medication you may be taking or
medical advice given to you by your doctor. Information contained in the
book is general in nature and speaks more in terms of the regulation

present

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in the health industry and living an overall healthy lifestyle.

Therefore,

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please be aware that you may or may not find the information in the book
helpful for your specific situation. We do not verify the quality and
validity of the information contained in these products. Therefore, we

do

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not guarantee any and all claims, content, opinions, and information
contained in these types of products. This book is to be accepted and

used

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for informational purposes only. By purchasing the book, you are
acknowledging that you are aware and acknowledge these facts.]

In the case of ADHD, at least, the disclaimer is true. The book does not
describe a natural cure for ADHD. Nor does it refer the reader to a

source

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for such a cure. In fact it offers no help for ADHD at all. Yes, the

book's

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author, Kevin Trudeau does state in the infomercial that "Natural

remedies

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are curing people of cancer, curing people of diabetes, curing people of
depression, curing kids of Attention Deficit Disorder within days", but
neither the infomercial nor his book offer any evidence whatsoever that

any

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part of that statement is other than pure [censored]. And note that

Trudeau

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can produce more [censored] than a herd of bulls. He has been prosecuted

for

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his infomercial lies, selling a raft of bogus products (remember coral
calcium?) and is now prohibited from promoting any products other than
publications.

--Rich

That's why it's natural cures that the medical industry doesn't want you

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know.

Do you know the mechanism of AD/HD and how any of these "natural *cures*"
can affect it? Note the emphasis on cures, which requires that treatment be
of limited duration and not symptom oriented.

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Before paying for services offered, one might want to check out Kevin
Trudeau and why he is doing this in this way:

One might want to check this:

http://www.infomercialwatch.org/tran/trudeau.shtml

LadyLollipop wrote:

Snippoooo

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"Knowledge never hurt anyone, ignorance does"
Frank T. Schubert

That must explain your problems.

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Before paying for services offered, one might want to check out Kevin
Trudeau and why he is doing this in this way:

One might want to check this:

http://www.chelationtherapyonl­ine.com/articles/p182.htm#quac­k

Why would anyone in their right mind want to read [censored]?

George Lagergren said:

Topic: ADHD cure?

George,

Save your money on these comeon ads promising magic cures. While there
is no cure yet for ADHD, the most promising development yet, published
in Dec., 2004, can be viewed for free at:

http://archpedi.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/158/12/1113

Basically, ferritin levels in ADHD children average 23 vs. 44 in
non-ADHD children. The lower the ferritin level, the more severe the
ADHD symptoms. Low ferritin is an indication of low iron levels, and
iron is essential in making dopamine. Dopamine is the neurotransmitter
that is increased by taking ritalin. So now everything makes sense,
including why ritalin is so effective. However, this also suggests that
any child that benefits from ritalin will benefit even more by
increasing iron consumption instead until their ferritin level is raised
to the normal average.

Ed Friedman

You don't need a cure if you don't stress your body in the first place.
The biggest problem in "advanced, Western nations" in the oxidative
stress from dietary sources, mostly highly unsaturated oils used in
cooking and processed foods. With basic nutrition and the avoidance of
the highly unsaturated fatty acids, as well as oxidized cholesterol
(which comes from powdered dairy and eggs, used a lot in baked and
processed foods, as well as meats cooked while exposed to air and/or
with highly unsaturated oils), you can save the $30 and not worry about
this any more. You should try to eat foods high in antioxidants, such
as berries, dark chocolate, and white tea too, but without the main
sources of oxidative stress in your diet, you don't have to eat huge
amounts of these foods if you don't like them.

Ed Friedman said:

George Lagergren said:

Topic: ADHD cure?

George,

Save your money on these comeon ads promising magic cures. While there
is no cure yet for ADHD, the most promising development yet, published
in Dec., 2004, can be viewed for free at:

http://archpedi.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/158/12/1113

Basically, ferritin levels in ADHD children average 23 vs. 44 in
non-ADHD children. The lower the ferritin level, the more severe the
ADHD symptoms. Low ferritin is an indication of low iron levels, and
iron is essential in making dopamine. Dopamine is the neurotransmitter
that is increased by taking ritalin. So now everything makes sense,
including why ritalin is so effective. However, this also suggests that
any child that benefits from ritalin will benefit even more by
increasing iron consumption instead until their ferritin level is raised
to the normal average.

That is interesting and is a study that I missed.

Just be warned that there is a poster in mha that thinks that Iron is Evil.

George Lagergren said:

Topic: ADHD cure?

I saw a TV info-commerical today. The fellow is selling a book

entitled:

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"Natural Cures: What They Don't Want You To Know" for $30 USD. He

has

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also established a web site: www.naturalcures.com as a private
subscription arrangement for $10 USD per month.

He stated during the TV info-commerical that there is a "cure" for

ADHD.

Quoted message said:

And because the www.naturalcures.com web site functions on a private
subscription basis, he can use the "cure" word without any hassle

from a

Quoted message said:

government agency. And stated many health problems result from a

food

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allergy problem or lack of nutritional supplements.

I've seen this guy on TV and I believe that he is correct on a lot of
points and believable when he talks about "cures", whether for ADHD or
other conditions. I don't like the way he is into marketing his
information, but I think he is on the right track, in terms of health
advice, and can provide you with important information that is not
available from the mainstream medical establishement.

I am not agreeing with everything he says, but a lot of what he says is
close to what I've found in my own personal research over the last 5 or
6 years. He tends to be in agreement with the concepts of
Orthomolecular Medicine, which I fully agree with.

TC

Topic: ADHD cure?

"TC" <[email hidden]> wrote: >
[in ref to Kevin T.'s www.naturalcures.com web site]

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I've seen this guy on TV and I believe that he is correct on a lot of
points and believable when he talks about "cures", whether for ADHD or
other conditions. I don't like the way he is into marketing his
information, but I think he is on the right track, in terms of health
advice, and can provide you with important information that is not
available from the mainstream medical establishement.

IOW, whether subscripting to his www.naturalcures.com web site is
worth $10 USD per month?

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I am not agreeing with everything he says, but a lot of what he says is
close to what I've found in my own personal research over the last 5 or
6 years. He tends to be in agreement with the concepts of
Orthomolecular Medicine, which I fully agree with.

I, too, agree with the concept of Orthomolecular Medicine which I
view as "baseline" medicine [that is, diet / folk / nutritional medicine].

George Lagergren said:

Topic: ADHD cure?

"TC" <[email hidden]> wrote: >
[in ref to Kevin T.'s www.naturalcures.com web site]

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I've seen this guy on TV and I believe that he is correct on a lot

of

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points and believable when he talks about "cures", whether for ADHD

or

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other conditions. I don't like the way he is into marketing his
information, but I think he is on the right track, in terms of

health

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advice, and can provide you with important information that is not
available from the mainstream medical establishement.

IOW, whether subscripting to his www.naturalcures.com web

site is

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worth $10 USD per month?

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I am not agreeing with everything he says, but a lot of what he

says is

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close to what I've found in my own personal research over the last

5 or

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6 years. He tends to be in agreement with the concepts of
Orthomolecular Medicine, which I fully agree with.

I, too, agree with the concept of Orthomolecular Medicine

which I

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view as "baseline" medicine [that is, diet / folk / nutritional

medicine].

For myself, I don't need to subscribe to the website. I've done my own
rather extensive research that has led me to similar conclusions as
this fellow. My only interest would be in the possibility of confirming
most of what I know or to possibly find some nugget of new or
interesting info or to simply make comparisons between my research
results and his. At this point, this would fall under a matter of
curiosity for myself rather than any basic research need.

It may be worth it for someone just starting to sort the wheat from the
chaff (pun intended) in the areas of nutritional and general health
sciences. It may well be worth it, at least as a starting point for
ones personal research on the various topics. Or it may be worth it to
see his take on topics that my research hasn't touched on yet.

It may be worth it to get a one-month access to his stuff to see if it
is actualy worth it.

TC

TC said:

George Lagergren said:

Topic: ADHD cure?

I saw a TV info-commerical today. The fellow is selling a book

entitled:

Quoted message said:

"Natural Cures: What They Don't Want You To Know" for $30 USD. He

has

Quoted message said:

also established a web site: www.naturalcures.com as a private
subscription arrangement for $10 USD per month.

He stated during the TV info-commerical that there is a "cure" for

ADHD.

Quoted message said:

And because the www.naturalcures.com web site functions on a private
subscription basis, he can use the "cure" word without any hassle

from a

Quoted message said:

government agency. And stated many health problems result from a

food

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allergy problem or lack of nutritional supplements.

I've seen this guy on TV and I believe that he is correct on a lot of
points and believable when he talks about "cures", whether for ADHD or
other conditions. I don't like the way he is into marketing his
information, but I think he is on the right track, in terms of health
advice, and can provide you with important information that is not
available from the mainstream medical establishement.

I am not agreeing with everything he says, but a lot of what he says is
close to what I've found in my own personal research over the last 5 or
6 years. He tends to be in agreement with the concepts of
Orthomolecular Medicine, which I fully agree with.

If you think Kevin Trudeau is credible, then, please allow me to offer
for sale this bridge that begins in Manhattan and ends in Brooklyn.

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"TC" <[email hidden]> wrote:

[in ref to Kevin T.'s www.naturalcures.com web site]

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For myself, I don't need to subscribe to the website. I've done my own
rather extensive research that has led me to similar conclusions as
this fellow. My only interest would be in the possibility of confirming
most of what I know or to possibly find some nugget of new or
interesting info or to simply make comparisons between my research
results and his. At this point, this would fall under a matter of
curiosity for myself rather than any basic research need.

Ditto from me. His $30 book just re-confirmed for me that my
knowledge about proper diet style and diet choices were correct.

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It may be worth it for someone just starting to sort the wheat from the
chaff (pun intended) in the areas of nutritional and general health
sciences. It may well be worth it, at least as a starting point for
ones personal research on the various topics. Or it may be worth it to
see his take on topics that my research hasn't touched on yet.

Of course, there are other good health web sites like www.lef.org
..

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It may be worth it to get a one-month access to his stuff to see if it
is actualy worth it.

Yes to see how complete his natural cures info is.