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  1. Here are some of the statements made by a member of ACAHF,
    defaming an Australian Medical Doctor, here on MHA.

    The statements are excerpted and the posts referenced, so
    that they may all be verified in context. Note, the
    following are only some of those statements:

    Excerpts:

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> Newsgroups:
    misc.health.alternative Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004
    12:09 PM Subject: Re: anth and the flush

    Quoted message said:

    By the way, Dr Cabot is no longer licensed to practice
    medicine in Australia.

    -----------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Wednesday, March
    03, 2004 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Liver/ gall bladder flush
    NOT! recommended at outset

    Quoted message said:

    Ex-Dr Sandra Cabot has medical qualifications which would
    allow her to practice anywhere in Australia if she still
    had a licence.

    ----------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> Newsgroups:
    misc.health.alternative Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:52
    PM Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    The fact that ex-Dr Cabot has had her registration to
    practise medicine in Australia withdrawn means that she
    must have the necessary qualifications at some time.

    ---------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> Newsgroups:
    misc.health.alternative Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 9:27
    PM Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    She thinks that her customers are so stupid that they
    won't know she's a doctor unless they see "MD" after her
    name (even though she is not licensed to practise anywhere
    in the world).

    -----------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> Newsgroups:
    misc.health.alternative Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:37 AM
    Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    She is not registered to practice medicine here because
    she broke the rules, not because she doesn't have the
    right degrees.

    ------------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> Newsgroups:
    misc.health.alternative Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 10:01
    AM Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    It is doubtful whether she should call herself "Doctor" as
    this is a courtesy title and she is no longer registered,
    but nobody really cares about this.

    ---------------------------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> Newsgroups:
    misc.health.alternative Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:04 AM
    Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    What is not a rumour is the fact that she is not allowed
    to practise medicine in Australia, despite having all the
    necessary qualifications.

    -----------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> Newsgroups:
    misc.health.alternative Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 5:38 PM
    Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, ex-Dr Sandra Cabot being a prime example.

  2. Quoted message said:

    Subject: ACAHF Fraud libels Aus Doc
    From: [email hidden]
    Date: 3/12/2004 7:51 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Here are some of the statements made by a member of ACAHF,
    defaming an Australian Medical Doctor, here on MHA.

    Yes. that is Peter's expertise, that's why he has been
    chosen to speak at a medical conference and has NO medical
    qualifications.

    The *GANG* round up.

    Good work Toby!

    Jan

    Quoted message said:

    The statements are excerpted and the posts referenced, so
    that they may all be verified in context. Note, the
    following are only some of those statements:

    Excerpts:

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Wednesday, March
    03, 2004 12:09 PM Subject: Re: anth and the flush

    Quoted message said:

    By the way, Dr Cabot is no longer licensed to practice
    medicine in Australia.

    -----------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Wednesday, March
    03, 2004 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Liver/ gall bladder flush
    NOT! recommended at outset

    Quoted message said:

    Ex-Dr Sandra Cabot has medical qualifications which would
    allow her to practice anywhere in Australia if she still
    had a licence.

    ----------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Saturday, March
    06, 2004 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    The fact that ex-Dr Cabot has had her registration to
    practise medicine in Australia withdrawn means that she
    must have the necessary qualifications at some time.

    ---------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Saturday, March
    06, 2004 9:27 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    She thinks that her customers are so stupid that they
    won't know she's a doctor unless they see "MD" after her
    name (even though she is not licensed to practise
    anywhere in the world).

    -----------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Sunday, March 07,
    2004 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    She is not registered to practice medicine here because
    she broke the rules, not because she doesn't have the
    right degrees.

    ------------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Sunday, March 07,
    2004 10:01 AM Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    It is doubtful whether she should call herself "Doctor"
    as this is a courtesy title and she is no longer
    registered, but nobody really cares about this.

    ---------------------------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Monday, March 08,
    2004 9:04 AM Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    What is not a rumour is the fact that she is not allowed
    to practise medicine in Australia, despite having all
    the necessary qualifications.

    -----------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Sunday, March 07,
    2004 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, ex-Dr Sandra Cabot being a prime example.

  3. (Jan) said:

    The *GANG* round up.

    TING

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project ratbags.comrsoles
    The Green Light ratbags.comgreenlight
    and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 ratbags.comloon
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  4. "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    (Jan) said:

    The *GANG* round up.

    TING

    --
    Peter Bowditch The Millenium Project
    ratbags.comrsoles The Green Light
    ratbags.comgreenlight and The New Improved
    Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and


    C-Q10 ratbags.comloon

    Quoted message said:

    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

    A one man gang!

    --
    "The emperor is naked!"
    "No he isn't, he's merely endorsing a clothing-optional lifestyle!"

    to email me
    Please remove "all your clothes"

    Doug

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Peter Bowditch said:
    (Jan) said:

    The *GANG* round up.

    TING

    "Doug and Dinnesdale now formed a gang, which they called
    "The Gang."

    -- Monty Python (Piranha Bros.
    sketch)

    [I hadn't realized it originally, but the Piranha brothers
    were based on actual gangster twins, the Kray brothers. I
    know that has nothing to do with alternative health, but
    it's a lot more interesting than these endless feuds.]

  6. I think it's disgraceful the attack on her also, I'm sure
    she has a lot of happy satisfied patients. She doesn't need
    this kind of abuse. Anth

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Here are some of the statements made by a member of ACAHF,
    defaming an Australian Medical Doctor, here on MHA.

    The statements are excerpted and the posts referenced, so
    that they may


    all

    Quoted message said:

    be verified in context. Note, the following are only some
    of those statements:

    Excerpts:

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Wednesday, March
    03, 2004 12:09 PM Subject: Re: anth and the flush

    Quoted message said:

    By the way, Dr Cabot is no longer licensed to practice
    medicine in Australia.

    -----------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Wednesday, March
    03, 2004 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Liver/ gall bladder flush
    NOT! recommended at outset

    Quoted message said:

    Ex-Dr Sandra Cabot has medical qualifications which
    would allow her to practice anywhere in Australia if she
    still had a licence.

    ----------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Saturday, March
    06, 2004 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    The fact that ex-Dr Cabot has had her registration to
    practise medicine in Australia withdrawn means that she
    must have the necessary qualifications at some time.

    ---------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Saturday, March
    06, 2004 9:27 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    She thinks that her customers are so stupid that they
    won't know she's a doctor unless they see "MD" after her
    name (even though she is not licensed to practise
    anywhere in the world).

    -----------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Sunday, March
    07, 2004 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    She is not registered to practice medicine here because
    she broke the rules, not because she doesn't have the
    right degrees.

    ------------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Sunday, March
    07, 2004 10:01 AM Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    It is doubtful whether she should call herself "Doctor"
    as this is a courtesy title and she is no longer
    registered, but nobody really cares about this.

    ---------------------------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Monday, March
    08, 2004 9:04 AM Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    What is not a rumour is the fact that she is not
    allowed to practise medicine in Australia, despite
    having all the necessary qualifications.

    -----------------

    From: "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]>
    Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Sent: Sunday, March
    07, 2004 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Sandra Cabot

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, ex-Dr Sandra Cabot being a prime example.

  7. "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I think it's disgraceful the attack on her also, I'm sure
    she has a lot of happy satisfied patients. She doesn't
    need this kind of abuse.


    ============================
    Hard to trust a Dr who claims she studied at a University
    that didn't even exist at the time. How does that build
    confidence in her?
    --
    Kim Please note, I don't wish to get involved in any
    personal conflicts between the posters here. I'm simply
    looking for answers.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  8. So you think it's right to lash out at a doctor at random
    maybe causing her harm and grief in her practice? How many
    times has it been said that this woman is qualified to
    practice medicine. Anth

    "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I think it's disgraceful the attack on her also, I'm
    sure she has a lot


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    happy satisfied patients. She doesn't need this kind of
    abuse.


    ============================
    Hard to trust a Dr who claims she studied at a University
    that didn't even exist at the time. How does that build
    confidence in her?
    --
    Kim Please note, I don't wish to get involved in any
    personal conflicts between the posters here. I'm simply
    looking for answers.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  9. "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So you think it's right to lash out at a doctor at random
    maybe causing


    her

    Quoted message said:

    harm and grief in her practice?

    Is she/he LIES and deceives about where she got her degree
    (if any) - yes! I'm sure you agree.

    Quoted message said:

    How many times has it been said that this woman is
    qualified to practice medicine.

    How many times has she lied about where she got her degree?
    "WHY is she lying," may be the better question to ask. If I
    found out our Veterinarian lied by claiming to be a graduate
    of Cornell University when in reality he has a degree from
    SouthernState U. I would take my dog to another
    veterinarian. If my Dr lied I would choose another Dr.
    Wouldn't you?

    Quoted message said:

    Anth


    --
    Kim Please note, I don't wish to get involved in any
    personal conflicts between the posters here. I'm simply
    looking for answers.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  10. How do you know she's lying? All I see is a doctor posting a
    potentially dishonest statement about her MD when she
    doesn't have one. It isn't even clear if she's using MD as
    medical doctor or MD as in qualification. Anth

    "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ssednQFrVeyCNsndRVn-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So you think it's right to lash out at a doctor at
    random maybe causing


    her

    Quoted message said:

    harm and grief in her practice?

    Is she/he LIES and deceives about where she got her degree
    (if any) - yes! I'm sure you agree.

    Quoted message said:

    How many times has it been said that this woman is
    qualified to practice medicine.

    How many times has she lied about where she got her
    degree? "WHY is she lying," may be the better question to
    ask. If I found out our


    Veterinarian

    Quoted message said:

    lied by claiming to be a graduate of Cornell University
    when in reality he has a degree from SouthernState U. I
    would take my dog to another veterinarian. If my Dr lied I
    would choose another Dr. Wouldn't you?

    Quoted message said:

    Anth


    --
    Kim Please note, I don't wish to get involved in any
    personal conflicts between the posters here. I'm simply
    looking for answers.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  11. Anth said:

    How do you know she's lying? All I see is a doctor posting
    a potentially dishonest statement about her MD when she
    doesn't have one. It isn't even clear if she's using MD as
    medical doctor or MD as in qualification. Anth

    Wrong. The ACAHF fraud made it clear himself, that it was
    not intended to signify any degree, but as MEDICAL DOCTOR.
    (I'll go and find the post.)

    As well, the NSW Medical Registration Board endorsed
    that usage!!

    They said that they had NO problem with it; that the ONLY
    people who could take issue would be the particular
    University, if they thought there was reason.

    I posted the telephone number to verify that (at NSW Med Reg
    Board). Anyone if free to do so.

    The LIES of the ACAHF Fraud have already been listed in
    part, in my first post in this thread. That is only a
    fraction of the deceit he has being enacting.

  12. Quoted message said:
    Anth said:

    How do you know she's lying? All I see is a doctor
    posting a potentially dishonest statement about her MD
    when she doesn't have one. It isn't even clear if
    she's using MD as medical doctor or MD as in
    qualification. Anth

    Wrong. The ACAHF fraud made it clear himself, that it was
    not intended to signify any degree, but as MEDICAL DOCTOR.
    (I'll go and find the post.)

    This should be interesting.

    Quoted message said:

    As well, the NSW Medical Registration Board endorsed
    that usage!!

    Did they, just? Endorsed?

    Quoted message said:

    They said that they had NO problem with it; that the ONLY
    people who could take issue would be the particular
    University, if they thought there was reason.

    So they don't care if a doctor claims to have a degree
    which the doctor does not have? Which university did Dr
    Cabot claim to have her "MD" from? Oh, that's right - she
    didn't say.

    Quoted message said:

    I posted the telephone number to verify that (at NSW Med
    Reg Board). Anyone if free to do so.

    Actually, you posted a non-existent phone number and most
    people outside Australia would not know how to find the real
    one. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and allow for
    the possibility of a typo.

    Quoted message said:

    The LIES of the ACAHF Fraud have already been listed in
    part, in my first post in this thread. That is only a
    fraction of the deceit he has being enacting.

    But claiming a university degree which one does not have is
    not deceitful?

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project ratbags.comrsoles
    The Green Light ratbags.comgreenlight
    and The New Improved Quintessence of the Loon with added Vitamins and C-Q10 ratbags.comloon
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  13. So she _is_ licensed to practice medicine right? Anth

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Anth said:

    How do you know she's lying? All I see is a doctor
    posting a potentially dishonest statement about


    her

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    MD when she doesn't have one. It isn't even clear if
    she's using MD as medical doctor or MD as in
    qualification. Anth

    Wrong. The ACAHF fraud made it clear himself, that it was
    not intended to signify any degree, but as MEDICAL DOCTOR.
    (I'll go and find the post.)

    As well, the NSW Medical Registration Board endorsed
    that usage!!

    They said that they had NO problem with it; that the ONLY
    people who could take issue would be the particular
    University, if they thought there was reason.

    I posted the telephone number to verify that (at NSW Med
    Reg Board). Anyone if free to do so.

    The LIES of the ACAHF Fraud have already been listed in
    part, in my first post in this thread. That is only a
    fraction of the deceit he has being enacting.

  14. Anth said:

    So she _is_ licensed to practice medicine right? Anth

    I've already said so.

    I posted the telephone number to the OPEN NSW Med Reg Board,
    whereby anyone at all can verify this at any time.

    Or, ask them by email.

    She is a normal, fully registered, currently practicing
    Medical Doctor. Her real name, as noted earlier, is Dr
    Sandra McRae.

    At the time that she wrote her first books, it was legally
    required that Doctors in Australia write under another name.
    Since then, she has become far better known by her author
    name. She is presently considering changing her name to McRae-
    Cabot, to bring the two into line and to stop such
    confusions.

    When the ACAHF Fraud first began making the statements, I
    called the NSW Med Board immediately. Their response was to
    say that it was a situation like Dr James Wright. I accepted
    it and left it at that.

    Then the ACAHF Fraud continued repeating his lie,
    emphasising that it was "Not a rumour" and so on. So I
    rechecked with the Board.

    This is so crazy. There have been other
    misrepresentations also.

    Note your question above: you ask about a "license". The
    ACAHF Fraud referred to her not having one, several times.
    As far as I am aware we don't have a "license" as such.
    There is Registration with the Med Board, end of story. The
    question of a "license" turns up only in regard to Alt
    Practitioners, and with Docs from other countries applying
    to practice in Australia (including from the US), and in one
    or two other specialised instances.

    ---

    The latest to happen is someone impersonating her and
    emailing me as if her!!

    At first I thought it was her. Later I realised the emailer
    had talked about "My enemies" ..! There was no such mention
    in the phone conversation. And now, today, a similar but
    more bizarre email.

    Give it a break, you guys! (or females or whoever).

  15. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Anth said:

    So she _is_ licensed to practice medicine right? Anth

    I've already said so.

    I posted the telephone number to the OPEN NSW Med Reg
    Board, whereby


    anyone

    Quoted message said:

    at all can verify this at any time.

    Or, ask them by email.

    She is a normal, fully registered, currently practicing
    Medical Doctor. Her real name, as noted earlier, is Dr
    Sandra McRae.

    At the time that she wrote her first books, it was legally
    required that Doctors in Australia write under another
    name. Since then, she has become far better known by her
    author name. She is presently considering


    changing

    Quoted message said:

    her name to McRae-Cabot, to bring the two into line and to
    stop such confusions.

    When the ACAHF Fraud first began making the statements, I
    called the NSW Med Board immediately. Their response was
    to say that it was a situation like Dr James Wright. I
    accepted it and left it at that.

    Then the ACAHF Fraud continued repeating his lie,
    emphasising that it was "Not a rumour" and so on. So I
    rechecked with the Board.

    This is so crazy. There have been other
    misrepresentations also.

    Note your question above: you ask about a "license". The
    ACAHF Fraud referred to her not having one, several times.
    As far as I am aware we don't have a "license" as such.
    There is Registration with the Med Board, end of story.
    The question of a "license" turns up only in regard to Alt
    Practitioners, and with Docs from other countries applying
    to practice in Australia (including from the US), and in
    one or two other specialised instances.

    I saw Peter B claim that she didn't have a license, but I
    didn't see his reasoning.

    Quoted message said:

    The latest to happen is someone impersonating her and
    emailing me as if her!!

    At first I thought it was her. Later I realised the
    emailer had talked about "My enemies" ..! There was no
    such mention in the phone conversation. And now, today, a
    similar but more bizarre email.

    The internet is a strange place, I wonder who it was?

    Quoted message said:

    Give it a break, you guys! (or females or whoever).

    Anth

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