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  1. The Seattle folks went on a Coker ride today. It was John Childs, Tom
    Jackson, Jeff Sloan, myself, and we were joined by Abram Clark on his
    2:1 geared penguin giraffe unicycle with thin 20"x1.125" wheel. I don't
    think Abram posts here so I put some photos of Abram's giraffe and some
    mpegs of him riding it in 'THIS GALLERY'
    (http://gallery.unicyclist.com/album614) . One of the videos is of a
    comparison ride between Abram and Jeff Sloan so you that can see the
    cadence difference.

    Interestingly, at the beginning of our ride, Sabin Arditty was there to
    meet Dan Heaton for some trials at Gasworks Park. We didn't know of each
    other's rides. They were gone by the time we returned three or so hours
    later.

    Abram's giraffe is an elegant and lightweight vehicle. He took it
    offroad a little and freemounted whenever we were off as if there was
    nothing to it. He let the rest of us try it out at the end of the
    ride.

    A few photos of the Coker ride are 'HERE IN THIS ALBUM'
    (http://gallery.unicyclist.com/album525) but they are relatively
    uninteresting except the last three which are of a skateboarder trying
    to ride Tom Jackson's Coker. He did succeed for a short ride and we
    found out that he had ridden a 20" or 24" in the past.

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    -Greg Harper

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  2. That is a pretty beast (referring to the 'raffe, not Greg). How hard is
    it to get used to the gearing? Geared up to 40inches would make it only
    slightly "larger" then a Coker, but how does the loss of the flywheel
    effect affect how it rides? And lastly, what crank length is being
    used? They look rather long, but it could just be because they are next
    to such a small wheel.

    Daniel

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  3. First of all, I do post on this form, though admittedly quite rarely.

    Quoted message said:

    Doyaknow what kind of giraffe this was in previous incarnation(s), or
    is this a totally Frankenstein'ed invention?

    I have no idea. It had been sitting around for a long time, and wasn't
    getting
    ridden. The only remaining original component is the frame, and as JC
    says, that
    was cut down too. Actually the chain is original too.

    Quoted message said:

    How hard is it to get used to the gearing? Geared up to 40inches
    would
    make it only slightly "larger" then a Coker, but how does the loss of
    the
    flywheel effect affect how it rides?

    It takes a couple tries before you get used to it. Greg, Tom J, and Jeff
    all
    managed to ride it after a couple mount attempts, but it takes some
    practice to
    get used to the smaller wheel. It's much easier to stop, and accelerate
    quickly,
    but small bumps are far more noticeable of course. It's pretty
    twitchy,
    especially going up hills.

    Quoted message said:

    And lastly, what crank length is being used?

    Yes, they are long cranks. Here are some stats:

    170mm cranks
    46 tooth Rocket chain ring
    23 tooth Soma track cog
    Suzue track hub

    There are some pictures of putting it together here:

    http://abram.atypedigital.com/2005/photos/projects/giraffe/

    There are links to pictures of putting the frame together, and then
    there is
    another link to a few pictures of putting the rest of the components
    together.

    -Abram

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  4. john_childs said:

    *The two pileups were minor and slow speed affairs. It's more like a
    game of leap frog than a pileup. Jeff went down at low speed due to
    wavy pavement. Tom was right behind Jeff and Jeff's Coker fell right
    in front of Tom. Tom had to jump from his Coker and leap frog over
    Jeff's fallen Coker. Tom's Coker then fell right in front of me. I
    had to jump from my Coker and leap frog over Tom's Coker to avoid
    riding over it or landing on it. All comedy. No risk of injury
    (other than ego). *

    My ego wasn't bruised at all. I enjoyed getting some practice in rapid
    controlled dismount. Today I got to try it twice. The first, behind
    Jeff. He was trying to ride some very wavy pavement and lost it. Even
    though he was three feet to the right, his unicycle landed right in
    front of me. I abandoned my vehicle a few inches before contact,
    choosing a nice place to step.
    The second rcd came as Greg was turning off the Ballard bridge. Somehow
    he turned a little left before the 180deg right and scraped his pedal
    and flew off his uni, leaving it parked in the narrow exit. I decided
    it dismount, but I could probably have gone around it. I wimped out and
    dismounted.
    Abram's uni is truly amazing. The cranks are a little bit higher than
    the Coker, but with longer cranks, I ride it a little lower than the
    Coker. I managed to ride it around at the end of the ride, once I found
    a railing to start out on. I'm not sure how he does the freemount so
    well, I never even noticed him mounting during our ride.
    The ride is very twitchy. You have to hold on to the seat to keep the
    back/forward, side-to-side motion down. Turning isn't too easy. I don't
    think I managed a 180. Still it seems you could pick it up pretty
    quickly.
    I found it easiest to mount with a ledge or wall, and JC's shoulder
    worked too.

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  5. iunicycle said:

    * I managed to ride it around at the end of the ride, once I found a
    railing to start out on. *

    Yeah, watching Tom Jackson ride a rail skinny like that on a geared
    giraffe was truly amazing.

    Steve DeKoekkoek has a penguin giraffe geared to 2:1 with a 20" wheel
    also but the wheel is wider and heavier. I'm trying hard (with my
    antique mind) to remember that Steve's was easier to ride at slower
    speeds and that might be because the wheel was not so sensitive to
    surface irregularities. Abram's was easy to start and stop and even
    stillstand.

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  6. harper said:

    * with thin 20"x1.125" wheel.*


    slight correction. that looks like a 20x1 1/8th tyre.

    a rim that fits that size has a larger ERD than a rim that fits a
    20x1.125

    the tire on that Giraffe would not fit on a standard 20" rim like most
    freestyle uni's use for example.

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  7. shame shame, converting those wonderful fractions into decimals can be
    tricky when it comes to rim sizes and tires to mount on them.

    the popular size 20" ERD is '406' (http://mnhpva.org/tires/406.html)

    the fractional 20" size has a greater ERD of '451'
    (http://mnhpva.org/tires/451.html)

    schools out....😉

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  8. thanx for sticking the pics and the videos in the gallery
    and congratulations on managing to miss the freemount in each and every
    video

    what kind of freemount does he use?
    foot-up-on-the-wheel or something closer to a 'Coker-mount'?

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  9. I've never understood the difference in tire sizes between things
    like1-1/8 and 1.125. I know that the 24x1-3/4 (Schwinn) is much
    different than the 24x1.75 but I would think them to be the same. Their
    standards, I guess.

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  10. GILD said:

    *thanx for sticking the pics and the videos in the gallery
    and congratulations on managing to miss the freemount in each and
    every video

    what kind of freemount does he use?
    foot-up-on-the-wheel or something closer to a 'Coker-mount'? *

    You're welcome. Abram does a static mount in which he just jumps up
    higher than usual. I think he presently has a clamp ring on the lower
    cog so running jump and roll back mounts may tend to loosen it.

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  11. is that your voice doing the commentary to some of the clips greg?

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  12. GILD said:

    *is that your voice doing the commentary to some of the clips greg? *

    Yes. For some reason, my mouth is the one right by the microphone.

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  13. THats pretty cool.......It looks like some sort of weird wheelwalk
    variation.

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  14. Here's another one:
    http://gallery.unicyclist.com/albuu71/agriculturaffe
    And, I'd love to see one with a trials rim/tire combo

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