About malnutrition in ageing population

"shimuhy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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What is the cause of malnutrition in ageing population? How to prevent
it?

According to BBC News report: Europe's ageing population means more
will die of malnutrition unless urgent action is taken, warns a
charity.

See also this topic at:
http://www.webmedtoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=384

Keeping in mind that this post does quote the oft-wrong BBC, any general
population aging will, by definition, cause some marginal players to die
because of lack of fixed resources. Those people will almost certainly be
poor people and old people. So, what's new?

Of course, we could have another pandemic which would essentially reduce the
population's age -- lots of talk about a pandemic these days. The people
who die of that scourge will be -- on balance -- poor people and old people.
Again, what's new?

The poorest and the least able to adapt won't be Europeans. The resources
necessary for life will be extracted from the 3rd world. One more time --
what's new?

In sci.med Methulesah said:

"shimuhy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

What is the cause of malnutrition in ageing population? How to prevent
it?

According to BBC News report: Europe's ageing population means more
will die of malnutrition unless urgent action is taken, warns a
charity.

See also this topic at:
http://www.webmedtoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=384

Quoted message said:

Keeping in mind that this post does quote the oft-wrong BBC, any general
population aging will, by definition, cause some marginal players to die
because of lack of fixed resources. Those people will almost certainly be
poor people and old people. So, what's new?

The reason for malnutrition in a lot of old people is degenerating
mental faculties. Keeping a kitchen well stocked and cooking
nutritious meals requires a reasonably good brain. One of the early
signs of dementia is losing control of the kitchen.

--
Chris Malcolm [email hidden] +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
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Chris Malcolm said:

The reason for malnutrition in a lot of old people is degenerating
mental faculties. Keeping a kitchen well stocked and cooking
nutritious meals requires a reasonably good brain. One of the early
signs of dementia is losing control of the kitchen.

You should also respect that with advancing age the digestive system is
less able to absorb the nutrients of the food so you would as you age
need to increase the intake of vitamins etc.

Regards
Curious
--
I'll live forever or die trying

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What is the cause of malnutrition in ageing population? How to prevent
it?

Causes: poverty, depression, diseases leading to poor appetite (including
degeneraton of sense of taste), alcoholism, decreased mobility to obtain and
prepare food, loneliness (disinterest in preparing and eating food without
the social stimulation generally associated with it), lack of knowledge of
nutrition in people who have lost a primary caregiver, lack of food
preparation skills (ditto), the list goes on.

Years ago, when I was a paramedic, I picked up an elderly man at his
apartment, and couldn't help but notice that his large garbage can in the
kitchen was overflowing with empty "Pork and Beans" cans. That's all he ate.
He liked them, and he knew how to heat them up, and, as far as he was
concerned, that was an adequate diet. Actually, he could have chosen worse.
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--Rich

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Andy writes:

This is the first time that I have noticed that every single poster,
thru today, has been wrong.

Sure, some people are mal-nourished, but we are , as a group,
still gaining weight in spite of our attempts to diet. It's hard to
justify
a "trend toward starvation" after observing my comrades at the
local senior citizen center. And, unlike the attempts here to blame
any nutrition problems on dementia, stupidity, or lack of concern, I
have discovered the main problem in my, and most seniors, culinary
attempts.

And that, dear Readers, is the proliferation of "light beer"....
In an
attempt to foist on the American public a "delicious beverage which
has fewer calories" , millions, if not billions, of advertising dollars
have
been used promoting these absolutely tasteless beverages which don't
even have the redeeming quality of making the user feel better.

How do the conspirators make it "lighter"? The only difference
between the "regular" version and the "light" version is the alcohol
content.

If one , such as myself , ( and you can do this at home), does the

research, it is evident that the DECREASE in calories is exactly equal
to the calories saved by the DECREASE in alcohol content.

NOT, a decrease in fat, cholesterol, amino acids, starches, or
whatever the hell keeps us from being healthy. But rather a decrease
in the true reason that we drink beer in the first place. To get a
good buzz.

Why drink this foul tasting [censored] (and there are some really
bad light beers served in Corsicana, Texas) , if one cannot even get

drunk ?

No damn wonder that old people are falling over like flies.........

Andy , in Texas ( who has a moral obligation to set the
record straight )

Not a lot of aged die thin though do they ?

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Not a lot of aged die thin though do they ?

I've never seen any statistics on that. Come to think of it, I've never
known many ancient fat people, though.
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--Rich

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AndyS said:

How do the conspirators make it "lighter"? The only difference
between the "regular" version and the "light" version is the alcohol
content.

That's not the only difference. There are solids in the beer that give
the beer its flavor and nutrition.

There are many good microbreweries around, unfortunately they are in
out of the way places like Snake River or New Glarus.

--
Ron

AndyS said:

How do the conspirators make it "lighter"? The only difference
between the "regular" version and the "light" version is the alcohol
content.

That's not the only difference. There are solids in the beer that give
the beer its flavor and nutrition.

There are many good microbreweries around, unfortunately they are in
out of the way places like Snake River or New Glarus.

--
Ron

Twittering One said:

I've never seen any statistics on that. Come to think of it, I've never
known many ancient fat people, though.

Walk into nursing home.
All those thin people?
They WILL die

..
soon!

But NOT if they eat a lot and gain 30 or so pounds of muscle. People
who mope around and do nothing, tend to rot just like a dead body will
decompose.

That will empower them to hang around 20 years longer.

Just thought that you might want to know.

Chris Malcolm said:

One of the early
signs of dementia is losing control of the kitchen.

I thought that posting on these ngs was one of the early signs?

Ever hear of depression, Crackpot?

What other group, other than the elderly, has a better reason to be
chronically depressed?

Just thought that the Crackpots on these ngs might want to know that
Malcolm is an idiot.

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Chris Malcolm said:

One of the early
signs of dementia is losing control of the kitchen.

I thought that posting on these ngs was one of the early signs?

Ever hear of depression, Crackpot?

What other group, other than the elderly, has a better reason to be
chronically depressed?

Er, alcoholics, for one. Teenagers, schizophrenics, people with chronic pain
conditions. Depression is common in the elderly, but advanced age does not
doom one to depression. Perhaps you will understand that when you get old.
If you do.
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--Rich

Recommended websites:

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http://www.acahf.org.au
http://www.quackwatch.org/
http://www.skeptic.com/
http://www.csicop.org/

AndyS said:

This is the first time that I have noticed that every single poster,
thru today, has been wrong.

You are NO exception!

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And that, dear Readers, is the proliferation of "light beer"....

There are only two basic body types: the chronically thin and the
chronically heavy. You can make your own bigoted judgements.

The chronically thin simply are in the habit of not eating. The
chronically heavy have the habit of eating huge amounts of food.

It is as simple as that! 🙂

Beer is an easy way to pack on the calories. Alcohol has 7 empty
calories per gram. Carbs have only 4 calories. Thus fluid ounce per
fluid ounce beer drinkers versus soda addicts pack on more calories.

Pot bellies wont empower you to live longer. Just thought that the
heavy might want to have a reason to be depressed. That way you will be
naturally motivated to starve yourselves thin.

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

Just my opinion, but damn how I am always right. 🙂

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Not a lot of aged die thin though do they ?

You might want to visit a few nursing homes before making this
statement.

-DF

Rich said:

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Ever hear of depression, Crackpot?

What other group, other than the elderly, has a better reason to be
chronically depressed?

Er, alcoholics, for one. Teenagers, schizophrenics, people with chronic pain
conditions. Depression is common in the elderly, but advanced age does not
doom one to depression.

Who said that it did? Certainly, not me.

The majority of the elderly have sadly bought into the big medicine
lie, that their lives are over because they are elderly? Why else are
they so chronically depressed?

Other reasons: natural lost of taste and thirst, having to choose
between "drugs" and food, but mostly they are totally and completely
out of shape. Sadly, most of them are anything but Jack LaLanne clones.