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  1. Hi and greetings from the flatlands of Gedney Marsh (again).

    Recently bought a Coleman Cobra 2 'cos it was going cheap.
    Not so impressed with it as I found the rear pole very VERY
    very tight to fit into the floor webbing and even more
    difficult to remove. Anyone had a similar experience and
    does it improve with use?

    Or is it just me not being too familiar with the
    construction of modern tents.

    Incidentally I already have a couple of 'Argos' Pro-Action
    1's and am very very pleased with their performance.

    I've recently added a comment to a uk. rec. camping query
    about sleeping mats which may be useful info here too. The
    Argos self-inflating sleeping mat, or at least the one I've
    been using for about a year now, was a 'Gelert' brand, it
    self-inflates to about 25mm and has a seperate pillow
    section which does require lung power. At less the 20 UKP
    it's got to be a good buy. It's performance is excellent and
    I have used it in snow and at altitude. IMHO it is as good
    in performance as the much vaunted (and very expensive)
    alternatives on the market. Possibly it wont last as long
    but what the hell I can afford to buy at least three of
    these units for the price of a single therma-rest. It is
    full sized and weight wise only marginally heavier than a
    karrimat (but a damned sight more comfortable).

    Hope the above is of some use,.....Cheers all John S-M

  2. "John Spencer-Mallory" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi and greetings from the flatlands of Gedney Marsh
    (again).

    Recently bought a Coleman Cobra 2 'cos it was going cheap.
    Not so impressed with it as I found the rear pole very
    VERY very tight to fit into the floor webbing and even
    more difficult to remove. Anyone had a similar experience
    and does it improve with use?

    Or is it just me not being too familiar with the
    construction of modern tents.

    Incidentally I already have a couple of 'Argos' Pro-Action
    1's and am very very pleased with their performance.

    I've recently added a comment to a uk. rec. camping query
    about sleeping mats which may be useful info here too. The
    Argos self-inflating sleeping mat, or at least the one
    I've been using for about a year now, was a 'Gelert'
    brand, it self-inflates to about 25mm and has a seperate
    pillow section which does require lung power. At less the
    20 UKP it's got to be a good buy. It's performance is
    excellent and I have used it in snow and at altitude. IMHO
    it is as good in performance as the much vaunted (and very
    expensive) alternatives on the market. Possibly it wont
    last as long but what the hell I can afford to buy at
    least three of these units for the price of a single therma-
    rest. It is full sized and weight wise only marginally
    heavier than a karrimat (but a damned sight more
    comfortable).

    Hope the above is of some use

    Having bought said "much vaunted (and very expensive)" mat
    only yesterday, I can tell you that your comments are of no
    use to me.

    ; )

    Regards,

    Stuart

  3. Stuart M said:

    Having bought said "much vaunted (and very expensive)" mat
    only yesterday, I can tell you that your comments are of
    no use to me.

    Owning both a cheapie mat and a Luxury Thermarest my opinion
    is that the latter is definitely better. Slightly more
    comfortable, but where it comes into it's own is in it's
    much lower weight and pack size - very important if
    backpacking. I'd use the cheapie on a camp site but would
    not consider taking it backpacking.

    Paul
    --
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    wildwales.fsnet.co.ukwildwales.fsnet.co.uk
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  4. Quoted message said:

    Having bought said "much vaunted (and very expensive)" mat
    only yesterday,


    I

    Quoted message said:

    can tell you that your comments are of no use to me.

    I got the full length three season Thermarest on Tuesday
    at Ellis Brigham in Manchester. Might only use it two or
    three times this summer but I hope the extra investment
    is worthwhile. Very impressed by the low weight and
    small packsize!

    --
    Dave Newton

    Lake District walk&image site daves-lakeland-daves-lakeland-
    mountains.co.uk

  5. "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Stuart M said:

    Having bought said "much vaunted (and very expensive)"
    mat only yesterday, I can tell you that your comments
    are of no use to me.

    Owning both a cheapie mat and a Luxury Thermarest my
    opinion is that the latter is definitely better. Slightly
    more comfortable, but where it comes into it's own is in
    it's much lower weight and pack size - very important if
    backpacking. I'd use the cheapie on a camp site but would
    not consider taking it backpacking.

    I bought the short one and it is very light and small. It is
    to replace a foam mat which takes up about half of my
    rucksack. Thank you Paul, I feel much better now. ; )

  6. Stuart M said:

    I bought the short one and it is very light and small. It
    is to replace a foam mat which takes up about half of my
    rucksack. Thank you Paul, I feel much better now. ; )

    I bought one of the new short and light ones at Easter. I
    kind of expected it to be nowhere near as good as my old
    heavy thermorest - but it is better! Saves a lot of space in
    the pack as well.

    --
    Andy Howell Birmingham, UK

  7. "Andy Howell" <andy.howellNOSPAM@ecotrendDOTorgDOTuk> wrote in message
    news:BCCB93BE.2EEB7%andy.howellNOSPAM@ecotrendDOTorgDOTuk...

    Quoted message said:

    On 15/5/04 8:50 am, in article 2gm0ioF4aiiqU1@uni-

    berlin.de said:

    I bought the short one and it is very light and small.
    It is to replace


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    foam mat which takes up about half of my rucksack. Thank
    you Paul, I feel much better now. ; )

    I bought one of the new short and light ones at Easter.
    I kind of


    expected

    Quoted message said:

    it to be nowhere near as good as my old heavy thermorest -
    but it is


    better!

    Quoted message said:

    Saves a lot of space in the pack as well.

    Agreed. The blue foam pads are lighter, but I hate having
    stuff strapped on the outside of my pack. I did try a golite
    trek (frameless pack) for a while, and on that I'd stick the
    rolled up blue pad down the middle, thus providing some
    'frame' and a little better support. It's too big a bag for
    me anyway. Otherwise I use the thermarest which rolls up
    very compactly and fits in my bag. I've been very happy with
    a 3/4 ultralight. When it gets a little bit colder, I merely
    lay my pack down below my feet, so that the lower end of my
    bag isn't directly on cold ground.

    a

  8. a said:

    Agreed. The blue foam pads are lighter, but I hate having
    stuff strapped on the outside of my pack.

    I put my thermarest inside the pack first, opening it out so
    that it goes around the outside (of the inside - if you see
    what I mean), then all my other gear goes inside the
    thermarest. Keeps the pack in a nice shape.

    Quoted message said:

    When it gets a little bit colder, I merely lay my pack
    down below my feet, so that the lower end of my bag isn't
    directly on cold ground.

    But what if your pack is soaking wet?

    Paul
    --
    wilderness-wales.co.ukwilderness-wales.co.uk
    wildwales.fsnet.co.ukwildwales.fsnet.co.uk
    photosig.comuserphotos

  9. "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    a said:

    Agreed. The blue foam pads are lighter, but I hate
    having stuff strapped on the outside of my pack.

    I put my thermarest inside the pack first, opening it out
    so that it goes around the outside (of the inside - if you
    see what I mean), then all my other gear goes inside the
    thermarest. Keeps the pack in a nice shape.

    never have tried that with my *thermarest*, but sounds like
    a good strategy. particularly since i hate rolling it up to
    fit the tiny bag!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    When it gets a little bit colder, I merely lay my pack
    down below my feet, so that the lower end of my bag
    isn't directly on cold ground.

    But what if your pack is soaking wet?


    when in bad wx, I've taken the foam pad out of the Golite
    Trek pack. It's my one complaint about the bag tho' - the
    slot is at the BOTTOM of the sack! What were they
    thinking???

    Mosty my point was that there always seems to be something I
    can lay under my feet when in colder wx, which makes the 3/4
    pad ok. Otherwise it would be an issue, because i definately
    note the cold spot under my feet if my down bag is resting
    directly on tent floor. Note however that I am talking 3-
    season packing and not winter/alpine conditions(!).

    a

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