A ride in December..NOT

Maggie wrote:
|| Here in the deep suburbs of Joisey...we had what seemed to be a
|| hurricane today. The wind was blowin' like a day out of Winnie the

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Maggie -

Do what you can and don't feel ashamed if you can't do what everyone else
does. People have different levels of ability, common sense, stupidity, and
tolerance for pain. Personally, I won't ride if it raining unless I just get
caught out in it. I've been caught out in some strong winds, too, and that
ain't fun. I would not willingly leave home if it is really windy outside.
Why? Because, around here (lots of hills), for me, that ain't fun. And if
it's cold AND raining AND windy - I'm staying inside to watch DVDs (TdF
DVDs, maybe!).

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Maggie wrote:
|| Here in the deep suburbs of Joisey...we had what seemed to be a
|| hurricane today. The wind was blowin' like a day out of Winnie the

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Maggie -

Do what you can and don't feel ashamed if you can't do what everyone else
does. People have different levels of ability, common sense, stupidity,

and

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tolerance for pain. Personally, I won't ride if it raining unless I just

get

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caught out in it. I've been caught out in some strong winds, too, and

that

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ain't fun. I would not willingly leave home if it is really windy

outside.

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Why? Because, around here (lots of hills), for me, that ain't fun. And

if

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it's cold AND raining AND windy - I'm staying inside to watch DVDs (TdF
DVDs, maybe!).

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If Maggie's wind was anything like it was here near Philly, it was gusting
up to 50 mph. My car was getting blown around. Spin bike for me today,
only I listened to Christmas music until my 3 new Spinervals and The Pro and
the Hard Road arrive (I end up riding indoors A LOT over the winter it seems
;>😉

Cat

Maggie said:

WINTER!!!! After I made a fool of myself, a man passed

by my house

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on his bike. I noticed it was a TREK. (I am becoming

knowlegable.)

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He seemed to be handling the winds just fine. He was not

being blown

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off the road as I had been. Is this just determination,

strength or

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just experience? I did not have the strength to fight the

winds. He

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was riding as if the wind was not blowing. Was it

strength or

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experience? Maybe it was his expensive bike??? :-)

Probably not his expensive bike.
For the most part, people ride their least precious bike in
the winter.
Salt damage is almost inevitable.

Small, thin people are more affected by high winds. That's
probably why you had trouble in them.

Do what you can do and want to do; you can learn a lot by
observing others, but don't get hung up on comparisons.

Maggie said:

How the heck do you ride when the wind is gusting?

Well, if you're Bill Baka, tilted at around 45 degrees!

Couldn't resist,
--
BS (no, really)

B i l l S o r n s o n wrote:
|| Maggie wrote:
||
||| How the heck do you ride when the wind is gusting?
||
|| Well, if you're Bill Baka, tilted at around 45 degrees!
||
|| Couldn't resist,

🙂

B i l l S o r n s o n said:

Maggie said:

How the heck do you ride when the wind is gusting?

Well, if you're Bill Baka, tilted at around 45 degrees!

Couldn't resist,

Seriously, at about a 5 degree tilt, variable with gusts.
When the wind is coming from the right (or left) at 35 MPH
or so you do have to lean. Basic physics. Now if I had
steel disk wheels that would increase to about 10 degrees.
It's a bear on the sinuses and allergies though.
Hey I like to stir it up once in a while, so sue me.
I just have a different opinion than most.

--
Bill (?) Baka

Maggie said:

Here in the deep suburbs of Joisey...we had what seemed to be a
hurricane today.

We had gust upward of 50 mph. I learn to avoid riding on those
days. Leaning into the wind works until the gusts stop.

BTW, Bill wouldn't Bob have recommended leaning 45 degrees the other
way. ;-)

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Bill Baka wrote:
|| On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 03:02:06 GMT, B i l l S o r n s o n
|| <[email hidden]> wrote:
||
||| Maggie wrote:
|||
|||| How the heck do you ride when the wind is gusting?
|||
||| Well, if you're Bill Baka, tilted at around 45 degrees!
|||
||| Couldn't resist,
||
|| Seriously, at about a 5 degree tilt, variable with gusts.
|| When the wind is coming from the right (or left) at 35 MPH
|| or so you do have to lean. Basic physics. Now if I had
|| steel disk wheels that would increase to about 10 degrees.
|| It's a bear on the sinuses and allergies though.
|| Hey I like to stir it up once in a while, so sue me.
|| I just have a different opinion than most.

I really do think this is more of an opinion than anything else. If you
were actually leaning, I think you'd fall over as soon as the wind changed.
I was out riding in some strong winds over the thanksgiving holiday. What I
had to do was steer into the wind, but I never attempted to lean my body
and/or bike into the wind.

||
|| --
|| Bill (?) Baka

Neil Cherry wrote:
|| On 1 Dec 2004 16:02:20 -0800, Maggie wrote:
||| Here in the deep suburbs of Joisey...we had what seemed to be a
||| hurricane today.
||
|| We had gust upward of 50 mph. I learn to avoid riding on those
|| days. Leaning into the wind works until the gusts stop.
||
|| BTW, Bill wouldn't Bob have recommended leaning 45 degrees the other
|| way. ;-)

Oh...so you lean too. I guess I've got a lot to learn yet. But I don't
think I'll be leaning....I'll leave that to you more experienced folks.

Neil Cherry said:

Maggie said:

Here in the deep suburbs of Joisey...we had what seemed to be a
hurricane today.

We had gust upward of 50 mph. I learn to avoid riding on those
days. Leaning into the wind works until the gusts stop.

BTW, Bill wouldn't Bob have recommended leaning 45 degrees the other
way. ;-)

You never know what "proper" Bob will say about my posts. Some I just
do when the group looks like it is running out of steam, like now that
the election is over and it got so damn cold so fast. About 5 degrees
lean works at 25 to 30 MPH, gusts are unpredictable so I stay far to
the right, just in case.

--
Bill (?) Baka

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 06:06:35 -0500, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

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Bill Baka wrote:
|| On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 03:02:06 GMT, B i l l S o r n s o n
|| <[email hidden]> wrote:
||
||| Maggie wrote:
|||
|||| How the heck do you ride when the wind is gusting?
|||
||| Well, if you're Bill Baka, tilted at around 45 degrees!
|||
||| Couldn't resist,
||
|| Seriously, at about a 5 degree tilt, variable with gusts.
|| When the wind is coming from the right (or left) at 35 MPH
|| or so you do have to lean. Basic physics. Now if I had
|| steel disk wheels that would increase to about 10 degrees.
|| It's a bear on the sinuses and allergies though.
|| Hey I like to stir it up once in a while, so sue me.
|| I just have a different opinion than most.

I really do think this is more of an opinion than anything else. If you
were actually leaning, I think you'd fall over as soon as the wind
changed.
I was out riding in some strong winds over the thanksgiving holiday.
What I
had to do was steer into the wind, but I never attempted to lean my body
and/or bike into the wind.

Give me a little credit here. I can compensate just as fast for a wind
change as a pothole dodge. And I a talking sideways wind. Kind of
depends on your body wiegth and sideways wind resistance. A solid
instead of spoked whlle Would blow you over. If you don't beilieve me
go to a tech group. Physics 101.

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|| Bill (?) Baka

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Bill (?) Baka

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 06:08:03 -0500, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

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Neil Cherry wrote:
|| On 1 Dec 2004 16:02:20 -0800, Maggie wrote:
||| Here in the deep suburbs of Joisey...we had what seemed to be a
||| hurricane today.
||
|| We had gust upward of 50 mph. I learn to avoid riding on those
|| days. Leaning into the wind works until the gusts stop.
||
|| BTW, Bill wouldn't Bob have recommended leaning 45 degrees the other
|| way. ;-)

Oh...so you lean too. I guess I've got a lot to learn yet. But I don't
think I'll be leaning....I'll leave that to you more experienced folks.

I have to lean almost ever day. The wind in central California ia almost
staring north or straight south due to the big valley effect. 25% sideway,
25% percent in your face, 25% other side, 25% free ride at your back
or 35 MPH if you pedal with it.
California is lik a differenct country sometimes.

--
Bill (?) Baka

On 1 Dec 2004 16:02:20 -0800, [email hidden] (Maggie)

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Here in the deep suburbs of Joisey...we had what seemed to be a
hurricane today. The wind was blowin' like a day out of Winnie the
Poo's Blustery Day Book which I used to read to my little tykes long
ago. I came home from work and decided I had to at least ride a
little. BAD IDEA!!!!! How the heck do you ride when the wind is
gusting? I know some of you ride through just about any type of
weather, but I am not quite sure how you do it. Between the cold,
rain and wind lately...I am not getting much riding time in. Is it
really possible to ride all year long when you live in a state with
WINTER!!!! After I made a fool of myself, a man passed by my house
on his bike. I noticed it was a TREK. (I am becoming knowlegable.)
He seemed to be handling the winds just fine. He was not being blown
off the road as I had been. Is this just determination, strength or
just experience? I did not have the strength to fight the winds. He
was riding as if the wind was not blowing. Was it strength or
experience? Maybe it was his expensive bike??? :-)
I hung my head in shame and went into the basement to work out on
Crazy Tony's Gazelle. At least I got some exercise.
Maggie
http://www.geocities.com/lindaannbuset/mypage.html
http://hometown.aol.com/lbuset/

I get lucky sometimes. I always teach the evening of the first
Wednesday of every month, which means I need to bring a laptop with
me. That means that I don't bike. So, yesterday I did not bike to
work. So I got to miss the rain/wind storm. Hey, I wouldn't have biked
in yesterday even if I didn't to teach. That weather was just awful.
Rain coming in sheets sideways is not to be tolerated.

Roger Zoul said:

Neil Cherry wrote:
|| On 1 Dec 2004 16:02:20 -0800, Maggie wrote:
||| Here in the deep suburbs of Joisey...we had what seemed to be a
||| hurricane today.
||
|| We had gust upward of 50 mph. I learn to avoid riding on those
|| days. Leaning into the wind works until the gusts stop.
||
|| BTW, Bill wouldn't Bob have recommended leaning 45 degrees the other
|| way. ;-)

Oh...so you lean too. I guess I've got a lot to learn yet. But I don't
think I'll be leaning....I'll leave that to you more experienced folks.

At 50 mph you don't have a choice, you still have to get from where
you are to home. But I won't recommend it as when the gust cuts out
you have to counter correct. Which means you're all over the road.

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Neil Cherry wrote:
|| On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 06:08:03 -0500, Roger Zoul wrote:
||| Neil Cherry wrote:
||||| On 1 Dec 2004 16:02:20 -0800, Maggie wrote:
|||||| Here in the deep suburbs of Joisey...we had what seemed to be a
|||||| hurricane today.
|||||
||||| We had gust upward of 50 mph. I learn to avoid riding on those
||||| days. Leaning into the wind works until the gusts stop.
|||||
||||| BTW, Bill wouldn't Bob have recommended leaning 45 degrees the
||||| other way. ;-)
|||
||| Oh...so you lean too. I guess I've got a lot to learn yet. But I
||| don't think I'll be leaning....I'll leave that to you more
||| experienced folks.
||
|| At 50 mph you don't have a choice, you still have to get from where
|| you are to home. But I won't recommend it as when the gust cuts out
|| you have to counter correct. Which means you're all over the road.

Do you mean lean to the side - with your body? You don't actually try to
lean your bike do you?

In article <[email hidden]>,

dgk said:

On 1 Dec 2004 16:02:20 -0800, [email hidden] (Maggie)

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Here in the deep suburbs of Joisey...we had what seemed to be a
hurricane today.

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That weather was just awful.

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Rain coming in sheets sideways is not to be tolerated.

Not tolerated??
Watcha gonna doo...🙂

And as for a hurricane, I believe Fortescue, NJ reported a gust of 76 mph.

Great riding weather!
as long as you are going downwind!

Ride Safe.... Indoors!

Neil Cherry said:

Roger Zoul said:

Neil Cherry wrote:
|| On 1 Dec 2004 16:02:20 -0800, Maggie wrote:
||| Here in the deep suburbs of Joisey...we had what seemed to be a
||| hurricane today.
||
|| We had gust upward of 50 mph. I learn to avoid riding on those
|| days. Leaning into the wind works until the gusts stop.
||
|| BTW, Bill wouldn't Bob have recommended leaning 45 degrees the other
|| way. ;-)

Oh...so you lean too. I guess I've got a lot to learn yet. But I don't
think I'll be leaning....I'll leave that to you more experienced folks.

At 50 mph you don't have a choice, you still have to get from where
you are to home. But I won't recommend it as when the gust cuts out
you have to counter correct. Which means you're all over the road.

Amen to that. I have been blissfully riding in a nieghborhood with
houses shielding me and along comes an empty lot and a vicious wind
gets through and almost blows me off. Lack of attention to something
you would never give a second thought on most days, and I hate being
at the mercy of the wind. Weather is really hard to predict and it
controls itself, along the lines of fluid dynamics, which I can't
possibly plot out before each trip. You are at the mercy of nature
and that is that.

--
Bill (?) Baka

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 09:30:34 -0500, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

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Neil Cherry wrote:
|| On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 06:08:03 -0500, Roger Zoul wrote:
||| Neil Cherry wrote:
||||| On 1 Dec 2004 16:02:20 -0800, Maggie wrote:
|||||| Here in the deep suburbs of Joisey...we had what seemed to be a
|||||| hurricane today.
|||||
||||| We had gust upward of 50 mph. I learn to avoid riding on those
||||| days. Leaning into the wind works until the gusts stop.
|||||
||||| BTW, Bill wouldn't Bob have recommended leaning 45 degrees the
||||| other way. ;-)
|||
||| Oh...so you lean too. I guess I've got a lot to learn yet. But I
||| don't think I'll be leaning....I'll leave that to you more
||| experienced folks.
||
|| At 50 mph you don't have a choice, you still have to get from where
|| you are to home. But I won't recommend it as when the gust cuts out
|| you have to counter correct. Which means you're all over the road.

Do you mean lean to the side - with your body? You don't actually try to
lean your bike do you?

That means the bike too.

--
Bill (?) Baka

Bill Baka wrote:
|| On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 09:30:34 -0500, Roger Zoul
|| <[email hidden]> wrote:
||
||| Neil Cherry wrote:
||||| On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 06:08:03 -0500, Roger Zoul wrote:
|||||| Neil Cherry wrote:
|||||||| On 1 Dec 2004 16:02:20 -0800, Maggie wrote:
||||||||| Here in the deep suburbs of Joisey...we had what seemed to be
||||||||| a hurricane today.
||||||||
|||||||| We had gust upward of 50 mph. I learn to avoid riding on those
|||||||| days. Leaning into the wind works until the gusts stop.
||||||||
|||||||| BTW, Bill wouldn't Bob have recommended leaning 45 degrees the
|||||||| other way. ;-)
||||||
|||||| Oh...so you lean too. I guess I've got a lot to learn yet. But
|||||| I don't think I'll be leaning....I'll leave that to you more
|||||| experienced folks.
|||||
||||| At 50 mph you don't have a choice, you still have to get from
||||| where you are to home. But I won't recommend it as when the gust
||||| cuts out you have to counter correct. Which means you're all over
||||| the road.
|||
||| Do you mean lean to the side - with your body? You don't actually
||| try to lean your bike do you?
|||
|||
|| That means the bike too.

I remain unconvinced.