A real safety issue?

"Colin McKenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Over the last weeks, two bikes, of about 12 checked by me,
have had broken front brake 'noodles'. Another had the end
of the noodle not seated correctly - something that seems
to happen quite often as the pads wear, giving the cable
more slack. None of the child owners had noticed the
problems.

I've been cycling for forty years, what in god's teeth's
name is a "noodle"?

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burt said:

I've been cycling for forty years, what in god's teeth's
name is a "noodle"?

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Simonb said:

burt said:

I've been cycling for forty years, what in god's teeth's
name is a "noodle"?

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Well I'm d@mned : I was convinced it was baby-talk for a
n*ppl*, euphemised to avoid offending the sensitive !!!

** Phil.

burt said:

"Colin McKenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Over the last weeks, two bikes, of about 12 checked by me,
have had broken front brake 'noodles'. Another had the end
of the noodle not seated correctly - something that seems
to happen quite often as the pads wear, giving the cable
more slack. None of the child owners had noticed the
problems.

I've been cycling for forty years, what in god's teeth's
name is a "noodle"?

Sorry. It's a bent tube of metal between the end of the
brake cable outer and the end of the cable itself (at the
wheel end). The end rests in a small metal harness, if it
hasn't popped out or broken.

This is a brake design that has only been common for 5
years or so.

Colin McKenzie

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Simonb said:

burt said:

I've been cycling for forty years, what in god's teeth's
name is a "noodle"?

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Well I'm d@mned :

Yes, you disobeyed the famous 11th commandment: Thou shalt
not presume other posters are using baby-talk.

I'm sure you can get out of it if you do a big enough
penance, though.

Quoted message said:

I was convinced it was baby-talk for a n*ppl*, euphemised
to avoid offending the sensitive !!!

I guess excessive use of that word could chafe.

Mind you, I have been known to blush when buying supplies
for wheel-building from female bike shop staff.

A

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"Colin McKenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Over the last weeks, two bikes, of about 12 checked by
me, have had broken front brake 'noodles'. Another had
the end of the noodle not seated correctly - something
that seems to happen quite often as the pads wear, giving
the cable more slack. None of the child owners had
noticed the problems.

I've been cycling for forty years, what in god's teeth's
name is a "noodle"?

The piece of bent metal tube which guides the brake cable
into position on a V brake. Only used on V bakes, which in
turn are primarily used on 'mountain' bikes. And having
been playing with V brakes recently, yes I can see this
could be a danger.

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"Simonb" <[email hidden]> wrote:

| burt wrote:
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| > I've been cycling for forty years, what in god's teeth's
| > name is a "noodle"?
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Ah, so if cantilever brakes had been pioneered in this
country they'd have had macaronis instead?

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burt said:

I've been cycling for forty years, what in god's teeth's
name is a "noodle"?

A type of pasta, like spaghetti, used in soup. Presumably
used here in place of a brake cable ;-)

Tony

Ambrose Nankivell said:

Mind you, I have been known to blush when buying supplies
for wheel-building from female bike shop staff.

When asking for lube, no doubt?

On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 23:05:02 GMT, Simon Brooke <[email hidden]>

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The piece of bent metal tube which guides the brake cable
into position on a V brake. Only used on V bakes, which in
turn are primarily used on 'mountain' bikes.

And hybrids. And tandems. And some tourers. And
electric bikes.

I would hazard a guess that most bikes sold in the UK at
present, a very sizeable majority, are fitted with V-
style brakes.

The other thing that goes wrong is the metal bit into which
the noodle fits gets splayed over time. The first time you
give the brake some serious welly, it falls apart. Just one
more on the long list of things I check frequently on my
family's bikes.

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Just zis Guy said:

On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 23:05:02 GMT, Simon Brooke
<[email hidden]> wrote in message <8k7rl1-
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Quoted message said:

The piece of bent metal tube which guides the brake cable
into position on a V brake. Only used on V bakes, which
in turn are primarily used on 'mountain' bikes.

And hybrids. And tandems. And some tourers. And
electric bikes.

And 'bents.

I have one on the back of the Trice as a parking brake.

John B

Colin McKenzie said:

Over the last weeks, two bikes, of about 12 checked by me,
have had broken front brake 'noodles'. Another had the end
of the noodle not seated correctly - something that seems
to happen quite often as the pads wear, giving the cable
more slack. None of the child owners had noticed the
problems.

The result is brakes that do not work at all, or, worse,
appear to work until applied hard. It seems to me that
this level of brake failure is likely to cost lives.

Noodles are the weak point in the V-brake design, as they
will always need regular cleaning to avoid undue friction.
An alternative means of changing the cable direction in a
small space is with little pulleys (which are available).

I was sceptical about V-brakes, but having used them I
reckon they're about twice as good as cantilevers,
especially the easy setup. They feel lovely in use.

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 23:05:02 GMT, Simon Brooke
<[email hidden]> wrote in message <8k7rl1-
[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

The piece of bent metal tube which guides the brake cable
into position on a V brake. Only used on V bakes, which
in turn are primarily used on 'mountain' bikes.

And hybrids. And tandems. And some tourers. And
electric bikes.

I would hazard a guess that most bikes sold in the UK at
present, a very sizeable majority, are fitted with V-
style brakes.

The other thing that goes wrong is the metal bit into
which the noodle fits gets splayed over time. The first
time you give the brake some serious welly, it falls
apart. Just one more on the long list of things I check
frequently on my family's bikes.

That I can see (and have) but how on earth do you break a
brake noodle ?

Russ

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:33:46 +0100, "Russ"
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The other thing that goes wrong is the metal bit into
which the noodle fits gets splayed over time. The
first time you give the brake some serious welly, it
falls apart.

Quoted message said:

That I can see (and have) but how on earth do you break a
brake noodle ?

Good question. I think by inserting it improperly - but
p'raps it's a different way of describing the same issue?

Either way the moral of the story is (saving your presence,
Russ), check your brakes.

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Russ said:

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]>
wrote in message

Quoted message said:

The other thing that goes wrong is the metal bit into
which the noodle fits gets splayed over time. The first
time you give the brake some serious welly, it falls
apart. Just one more on the long list of things I check
frequently on my family's bikes.

That I can see (and have) but how on earth do you break a
brake noodle ?

Generally the end which bears on the other metal bit comes
off - perhaps because of sharp edges. It seems to be made
separately from the tube part.

Colin McKenzie

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And hybrids. And tandems. And some tourers. And
electric bikes.

And the new chopper
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.paul

If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you.

Ambrose Nankivell <[email hidden]> said:

*snip*

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Mind you, I have been known to blush when buying supplies
for wheel-building from female bike shop staff.

Like sausages and cooking thereof, it is impossible to have
a clean conversation about wheelbuilding. Nipples, rim,
flange, lubricate...oh dear.

Regards,

-david goes for a little lie down