A question about calories

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nanner said:

I never paid attention to them and now I want to figure out how many I need
or shoould have or stay below to lose weight (see - i know nothing about
it!!)

Alot of you really seem to know about this. Is there a formula?

The one I see most often is 8 - 12 times body weight, which for you
would be between 1104 and 1656. Of course, more activity means you can
eat more calories, but I have never heard of an accurate online
measurement of how much one actually burns in different activities.
Most sites that claim to do this actually greatly overestimate calories
burned.

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I am using fitday now.

Simply using fitday makes me eat less, because I don't just unconciously
graze. Taking the time to jot things down and total them up makes me
actually pay attention, and more often than not that's enough to keep me
from overeating.

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I haven't had dinner yet, but here's my stats:

1516 cal
1053 from fat

7 carb grams (3 are fiber)
105 grams protien

Dinner is roasted chicken and roasted cauliflower. The cauliflower is
lightly coated in olive oil and will have a light sprinkling of grated
cheddar on it. I may have a small salad on the side or eat a little of the
kids green beans.

I am 5'4" (tops, could be 5'3"😉 and currently weigh 138.

If we use 5'3, your BMI is in the normal range, but more towards
"overweight" than not. I used the calculator here:

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm

So, you really don't have much more to lose! Which is both good and bad,
since the last few pounds are usually the most stubborn.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

nanner said:

I never paid attention to them and now I want to figure out how many I
need
or shoould have or stay below to lose weight (see - i know nothing about
it!!)

Alot of you really seem to know about this. Is there a formula?

The one I see most often is 8 - 12 times body weight, which for you
would be between 1104 and 1656. Of course, more activity means you can
eat more calories, but I have never heard of an accurate online
measurement of how much one actually burns in different activities.
Most sites that claim to do this actually greatly overestimate calories
burned.

Quoted message said:

I am using fitday now.

Simply using fitday makes me eat less, because I don't just unconciously
graze. Taking the time to jot things down and total them up makes me
actually pay attention, and more often than not that's enough to keep me
from overeating.

yeah - you think, "If i eat that I have to write it down" LOL

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I haven't had dinner yet, but here's my stats:

1516 cal
1053 from fat

7 carb grams (3 are fiber)
105 grams protien

Dinner is roasted chicken and roasted cauliflower. The cauliflower is
lightly coated in olive oil and will have a light sprinkling of grated
cheddar on it. I may have a small salad on the side or eat a little of
the
kids green beans.

I am 5'4" (tops, could be 5'3"😉 and currently weigh 138.

If we use 5'3, your BMI is in the normal range, but more towards
"overweight" than not. I used the calculator here:

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm

So, you really don't have much more to lose! Which is both good and bad,
since the last few pounds are usually the most stubborn.

yup, i feel like about 25-30lbs of it just fell off. Now I am struggling.

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7 carb grams (3 are fiber)
105 grams protien

Protein.

I'm 5' 2.5" tall and started at 133 pounds, which is not considered
overweight. It took me almost 6 months to lose 24 pounds.
I never paid attention to calories, but looking back over my FitDay entries
for that period, I was averaging about 1400 calories/day and 30g net carbs.
I'm in maintenance now and average about 2000 calories/day and 65g net
carbs. And I've never worked out or otherwise exercised.
So, I personally don't think calories are that important to weight loss on
LC. But I do believe that you can go too low calorie-wise and slow down
your metabolism, making things even worse.

nanner said:

yup, i feel like about 25-30lbs of it just fell off. Now I am struggling.

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It would be difficult to make a more idiotic post.

Kudos.

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I'm 5' 2.5" tall and started at 133 pounds, which is not considered
overweight. It took me almost 6 months to lose 24 pounds.
I never paid attention to calories, but looking back over my FitDay
entries
for that period, I was averaging about 1400 calories/day and 30g net
carbs.
I'm in maintenance now and average about 2000 calories/day and 65g net
carbs. And I've never worked out or otherwise exercised.
So, I personally don't think calories are that important to weight loss on
LC. But I do believe that you can go too low calorie-wise and slow down
your metabolism, making things even worse.

nanner said:

yup, i feel like about 25-30lbs of it just fell off. Now I am struggling.

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Bev

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It would be difficult to make a more idiotic post.

Kudos.

You just did, of course.

That's why you're still so fat.

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It would be difficult to make a more idiotic post.

Kudos.

You just did, of course.

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That's why you're still so fat.

you're so silly - I'm a sz 6 and 138lbs (possibly 137)

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7 carb grams (3 are fiber)
105 grams protien

Protein.

good thing you are here to catch even the slightest typo

You still have a good 30 lbs of excess flab hanging on you.

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That's why you're still so fat.

you're so silly - I'm a sz 6 and 138lbs (possibly 137)

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You still have a good 30 lbs of excess flab hanging on you.

no way man - not at my height! I have 18lbs maximum to lose.

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You still have a good 30 lbs of excess flab hanging on you.

Your flab appears to have settled into the space between your ears.

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That's why you're still so fat.

you're so silly - I'm a sz 6 and 138lbs (possibly 137)

I bet you're in great shape, fatboy.

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You still have a good 30 lbs of excess flab hanging on you.

Your flab appears to have settled into the space between your ears.

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"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> That's why you're still so fat.
>
>

you're so silly - I'm a sz 6 and 138lbs (possibly 137)

Here's betting we never find out.

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You still have a good 30 lbs of excess flab hanging on you.

no way man - not at my height! I have 18lbs maximum to lose.

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I bet you're in great shape, fatboy.

You'd lose that bet, fathead.

FWIW, I'm 6', 173, 14% body fat, and currently training for the following
bicycling events :

In June I'll be leading my annual ride around Mt. Lassen (104 miles, 9,600
feet of climbing).
http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/biketours/MTLASSEN2004/RAML_015.htm

Later in June I'll be hooking up with http://www.bicycletourcolorado.com/
for my 4th time (450 miles of bicycling in a week in the Rockies, at
elevations up to12,000 feet). Two years ago, on this same tour, I rode my
bike up the highest paved road in the US:
http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/biketours/BTC2003/BTC0035.htm

I didn't make it to Colorado last year, because I was in France riding in
the Alps:
http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/biketours/TDF2004/TDF2004_013.htm

In July, I'll be doing http://www.deathride.com (125 miles, with 16,000 feet
of climbing in one day).

But, hey, thanks for playing and keep that pithy (or, is that pissy?)
attitude we all know and love.

GG

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You still have a good 30 lbs of excess flab hanging on you.

Your flab appears to have settled into the space between your ears.

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> "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> That's why you're still so fat.
>>
>>
>
> you're so silly - I'm a sz 6 and 138lbs (possibly 137)
>

So you're skinny-fat then...

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I bet you're in great shape, fatboy.

You'd lose that bet, fathead.

FWIW, I'm 6', 173, 14% body fat, and currently training for the following
bicycling events :

In June I'll be leading my annual ride around Mt. Lassen (104 miles, 9,600
feet of climbing).
http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/biketours/MTLASSEN2004/RAML_015.htm

Later in June I'll be hooking up with http://www.bicycletourcolorado.com/
for my 4th time (450 miles of bicycling in a week in the Rockies, at
elevations up to12,000 feet). Two years ago, on this same tour, I rode my
bike up the highest paved road in the US:
http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/biketours/BTC2003/BTC0035.htm

I didn't make it to Colorado last year, because I was in France riding in
the Alps:
http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/biketours/TDF2004/TDF2004_013.htm

In July, I'll be doing http://www.deathride.com (125 miles, with 16,000
feet
of climbing in one day).

But, hey, thanks for playing and keep that pithy (or, is that pissy?)
attitude we all know and love.

GG

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"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> You still have a good 30 lbs of excess flab hanging on you.

Your flab appears to have settled into the space between your ears.

> --
> Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to
> breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen
>
>
> "nanner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> >> That's why you're still so fat.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > you're so silly - I'm a sz 6 and 138lbs (possibly 137)
> >
>
>

....That you feel compelled to read and respond to.

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So you're skinny-fat then...

Yet another in your long line of pointless posts.

GG

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"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I bet you're in great shape, fatboy.

You'd lose that bet, fathead.

FWIW, I'm 6', 173, 14% body fat, and currently training for the

following

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bicycling events :

In June I'll be leading my annual ride around Mt. Lassen (104 miles,

9,600

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feet of climbing).

http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/biketours/MTLASSEN2004/RAML_015.htm

Quoted message said:

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Later in June I'll be hooking up with

http://www.bicycletourcolorado.com/

Quoted message said:

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for my 4th time (450 miles of bicycling in a week in the Rockies, at
elevations up to12,000 feet). Two years ago, on this same tour, I rode

my

Quoted message said:

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bike up the highest paved road in the US:
http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/biketours/BTC2003/BTC0035.htm

I didn't make it to Colorado last year, because I was in France riding

in

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the Alps:

http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/biketours/TDF2004/TDF2004_013.htm

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In July, I'll be doing http://www.deathride.com (125 miles, with 16,000
feet
of climbing in one day).

But, hey, thanks for playing and keep that pithy (or, is that pissy?)
attitude we all know and love.

GG

>
> --
> Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to
> breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen
>
>
> "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> >> You still have a good 30 lbs of excess flab hanging on you.
> >
> > Your flab appears to have settled into the space between your ears.
> >
> >
> >> --
> >> Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to
> >> breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen
> >>
> >>
> >> "nanner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> >> >
> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> >> >> That's why you're still so fat.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > you're so silly - I'm a sz 6 and 138lbs (possibly 137)
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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>

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So you're skinny-fat then...

Yet another in your long line of pointless posts.

GG

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"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I bet you're in great shape, fatboy.

You'd lose that bet, fathead.

FWIW, I'm 6', 173, 14% body fat, and currently training for the

following

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bicycling events :

In June I'll be leading my annual ride around Mt. Lassen (104 miles,

9,600

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feet of climbing).

http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/biketours/MTLASSEN2004/RAML_015.htm

Quoted message said:

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Later in June I'll be hooking up with

http://www.bicycletourcolorado.com/

Quoted message said:

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for my 4th time (450 miles of bicycling in a week in the Rockies, at
elevations up to12,000 feet). Two years ago, on this same tour, I rode

my

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

bike up the highest paved road in the US:
http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/biketours/BTC2003/BTC0035.htm

I didn't make it to Colorado last year, because I was in France riding

in

Quoted message said:

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the Alps:

http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/biketours/TDF2004/TDF2004_013.htm

Quoted message said:

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In July, I'll be doing http://www.deathride.com (125 miles, with 16,000
feet
of climbing in one day).

But, hey, thanks for playing and keep that pithy (or, is that pissy?)
attitude we all know and love.

GG

Quoted message said:

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> "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> You still have a good 30 lbs of excess flab hanging on you.
>
> Your flab appears to have settled into the space between your ears.
>
>
>> --
>> Now [censored]. You cannot possibly be this stupid and remember to
>> breathe. You must be trolling. -- Carmen
>>
>>
>> "nanner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> >> That's why you're still so fat.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > you're so silly - I'm a sz 6 and 138lbs (possibly 137)
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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...That you feel compelled to read and respond to.

Translation: "I've been schooled, and I can't think of anything else to
say."

It's OK JC, we understand (not that we sympathize).

GG

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So you're skinny-fat then...

Yet another in your long line of pointless posts.

GG

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MFW

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"GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> I bet you're in great shape, fatboy.
>
> You'd lose that bet, fathead.
>
> FWIW, I'm 6', 173, 14% body fat, and currently training for the

following

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> bicycling events :
>
> In June I'll be leading my annual ride around Mt. Lassen (104 miles,

9,600

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> feet of climbing).
>

http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/biketours/MTLASSEN2004/RAML_015.htm

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>
> Later in June I'll be hooking up with

http://www.bicycletourcolorado.com/

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> for my 4th time (450 miles of bicycling in a week in the Rockies, at
> elevations up to12,000 feet). Two years ago, on this same tour, I

rode

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my

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> bike up the highest paved road in the US:
>

http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/biketours/BTC2003/BTC0035.htm

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>
> I didn't make it to Colorado last year, because I was in France

riding

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in

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> the Alps:
>

http://www.shastasoftware.com/CycliStats/biketours/TDF2004/TDF2004_013.htm

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>
> In July, I'll be doing http://www.deathride.com (125 miles, with

16,000

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> feet
> of climbing in one day).
>
> But, hey, thanks for playing and keep that pithy (or, is that pissy?)
> attitude we all know and love.
>
> GG
>
>>
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>> "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> >> You still have a good 30 lbs of excess flab hanging on you.
>> >
>> > Your flab appears to have settled into the space between your

ears.

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>> >> "nanner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> >> > "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> >> >> That's why you're still so fat.
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>> >> > you're so silly - I'm a sz 6 and 138lbs (possibly 137)
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